 Thread: Xyr will be mostly sleeping for the next 6 - 12 Months |
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Just a quick note to tell everyone that Xyr has decided to hibernate for 6 - 12 months.
The game has been a valuable distraction to me when I needed one, but now I need to focus on RL and I keep getting lured back to BW.
I was planning to delete but thought better of it and decided to sleep for a while instead.
At the same time we have refocussed Boot Camp on what it was created for - a training camp for players. 'The Boot Camp' (BC-E) was formed last night by Popsicle: Boot Camp Academy has been disbanded and BC-R will go the same way the next time Belfegor logs on.
My Z3 square has gone to Beatrice and Belfegor's Z2 square will stay in Boot with Popsicle. I will be grateful to all our allies, colleagues and respected opposition, for their support in keeping it that way, maintaining agreements and supporting Pops.
I'm just building a Z4 square up a little and ensuring that BC-E is fully up and running before closing the lid on my coffin for a while.
A big thank you to all those players who have helped me and made my experience of BW a great one. In particular, thanks to Belfegor who taught me everything in know in the game, Cesarz for people when I need them and a fabulous z3 square (If I was staying I'd ask you to do some upgrades mate as I'm a bit stuck 
) and to Nouveaunosferatu for being a good friend and my first 'graduate' who listened, learnt and kicked my ass ! There are too many to mention but I can't leave out the lovely Beatrice 
who will do well in my old square.
One observation I offer before I sleep, is that Underworld is evolving and changing all the time. The big patch changed the dynamic of the server immensely and sieges have all but died out. I have heard many things about the old days and EoD and BoS and V13, but my experience of V13 has been that they are probably the best clan on the server for progression at my level at the moment (sorry to ruin your bad boy rep guys). From observation rather than experience, BoS are doing the same thing in the premier league.
So as one of my last diplomatic acts I would encourage players to forget the past and take everyone on face value. Play the game well and be fair with people. If you go to war, do it with enjoyment, agreement and good humour. If you can help someone else, give it a try, you might like it. There is enough conflict, stress and strife in RL, so let's leave it there and keep Underworld a great place to be.
Good Hunting
Xyr
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| Thread: Merge List V2 |
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Amulet Suffixes
Werewolf +
Guile = Talent
Levitation = Blood
Regards
Xyr
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| Thread: Rise of the Underdog.... |
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What i like about different behaviours is that the generate different behaviours as it were.
So after 5 sieges the square has now been swapped and is again under siege so may move again.
Regards
Xyr
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| Thread: Piercings/tattoos/body mods. |
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Originally posted by oh_teh_noes
kalessin, if you find pic please show
back to genitals ^^
its not about the look, its about the feeling, so im not sure many people are bothered about the aesthetics of it, as long as ur not hurling around a can of pepsi on the end of your beloved baton, i dont see a problem ^^ |
A friend of mine's son went for an interview for a club 18-30 rep and failed to read the invite which said he should prepare some entertainment. When asked to do a party piece at the interview he got his willy out, attached a coke can and swung it about a bit.
Didn't get the job that time....
I find this guy a tad extreme
http://newsday.image2.trb.com/nynews/med...06/30679575.jpg
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| Thread: Piercings/tattoos/body mods. |
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Great thread. I'm fascinated by the body mods things. I love the look of good tattoos and am not a great fan of poor tattoos. Haven't had the bottle to have one yet may may have one done at some point.
The piercing and branding/scarification is even more fascinating. I'm more interested by the reasons behind doing it that the outcome.
Hespera - you sound really committed to body mods and derive great satisfaction from it. Can I ask why you do it and what you get from it ?
Unfortunately there is still a stigma, especially in business about mods. Though i wouldn't go beyond tattooing by choice (maybe ear piercings), having a tattoo visible when in a suit would be career limiting (which is sad) in a lot of careers if one wants one. Does anyone out there regret the mods they have because of the impact it has had ?
I'm not personally keen on the very big hole in your earlobe mods and some of the extreme ones like the bloke who looks like a cat I find compelling but hard to understand.
Xyr
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| Thread: Rise of the Underdog.... |
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Originally posted by Hephaestus
what was the point in posting the link?
everyone can see you went in bare, now it looks like you're attention seeking which will annoy a fair few people, join a clan and fight for your square, trust me crying wont get you back to Z3 |
Out of interest, why do you feel the need to post on this thread ? You're not adding value and you are not in Coven. I am genuinely interested btw, not just trolling.
Xyr
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| Thread: Rise of the Underdog.... |
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Nate, Honorus
Could we please not let this thread stray into the V13/BoS thing again. You both make your points well on the contradictory posts. i'd rather the thread stays open because I find this interesting.
Hephaestus
The name of the game shouldn't determine the behaviours of the players. I played 'Killer' in school but succeeded in not killing anyone. What determines the behaviours is the game dynamics. So you can choose not to take by force if you want to; you can choose to be respectful and civil; you can choose to negotiate rather then retaliate. You can also choose to do some or none of those things.
You can even choose to do repeated sieges on an individual with no chance of winning and the clan being sieged can choose to defend and support their clan member.
Given your clearly voiced opinion I suspect we will never again hear a peep from you if you lose a square or get farmed by anyone; which is nice
Xyr
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| Thread: Rise of the Underdog.... |
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Originally posted by Zatoichi
i think the whole one mans righteous battle against the tyranny of the evil square stealers is childish,and a big waste of time for everyone |
I can understand describing it as irritating, futile, pointless, but not sure why you would simply describe it as childish. Admittedly it is a strategy that is usually developed in childhood (i call it the mummy i want a Rabbit strategy after that advert a few years back), but it is a highly successful strategy at all ages and in business as well.
It is just a strategy and it may work or may fail. It's just as valid as the strategy of going to a bigger clan and getting a square through strength, though possibly not as successful and a lot slower.
If individuals fighting against the system is childish i'm glad I live in a world where there are still childish people.
Just an alternative perspective to think about.
Regards
Xyr
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| Thread: Rise of the Underdog.... |
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...when you do not have the might to get your square back, you take other actions.
This one is certainly an interesting experiment.
Xyr
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| Thread: You like fish sticks ? |
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Originally posted by popeye2k8
i can quite easiliy munch my way through a whole packet
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before or after a plate of turkey twizzlers or rendered chicken dippers mate ?
Compressed fish bits mmmmmmmm.......
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 Thread: UNDERWORLD - Searing blood changes incoming |
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Originally posted by UG3
why do we need new items... more items = harder to find the ones you want...
plus has anyone got a legendary ursine set.... you never know that may give you the beastmasters act2 arcana.... we as players have to find out
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That would work
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| Thread: UNDERWORLD - Searing blood changes incoming |
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As an absorber, power of blood is useful but I have my trusty ursine set for sieges and expos.
As most of not all Act I arcana are available from set bonuses Have the set bonuses been uprated to offer Act II arcana.
I can see a set that offers searing blood being a nice addition as well as the the other arcana and the cursed one arcana.
Come on Devs, get some new prefix sets into the drops.
Xyr
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| Thread: PoH ambushes |
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Good idea mate. I'm up for it. With a regular supply of poh it's sensible for us to top up the mobs
regards
Xyr
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| Thread: Auction Layout |
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The spacing makes it harder to read. If there is an option to change it back that would be good.
Xyr
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| Thread: Patch 1.1.0.16 |
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Well I'm liking this patch a lot.
As a Clan Leader sometimes you just have to join the siege and lose PoH because you have to - only losing half is a good thing. I agree with the other comments around being a clan leader - if anyone thinks it's an easy life get yourself a clan and find out......it is rewarding and challanging at the same time.
People - fab gone up from 99 to 358 an hour. Necrol - if I can I'll be round later for people, no need to strip 
PoH - Hospital - Fab 5 poh an hour
In-Clan Rule - I think it's good - it will move the Merc role on to another level, you don't get immediate payment. i think it is unfair though that they can lose poh and this will discourage some. I hope it encourages a 'help because it is a good thing to do' culture.
the ambush poh is a good call and ill encourage players to bat above their average. At 250xp for a good attack that's not bad - you can get an expo after a good days attacking.
Let's adapt and evolve guys
Xyr
Edit - should the forum section 'Mercenaries' be changed to 'Helpful selfless Vampires who wouldn't mind some PoH or a nice expo assist if they help you out'. Snappy title i know
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| Thread: Great PoH changes patch. Cast your vote! |
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Wow that was quick. We went from Popeye posting something just to see what our reaction would be to it's in on 16 February.
I think it will change the game dynamic and it will be a good thing.
I would support the arena/pit fight patch if we can get it instead.
Agree with Ces on the PoH for ambush, you got to win it and lose it. The price of Field vest of Master, Titanium stuff etc just went up.
Interesting times ahead
Regards
Xyr
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| Thread: A little info on BW and the people behind it ;) |
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Originally posted by Mortis
Well, they made good job by creating this game, but their afterwards customer support.. bah.. whole customer service is pathetic. At least for UK realm. Maybe PL, FR and RU players are all happy and satisfied.. |
They don't seem to have made the distinction between free access and premium and from what I have read of the responses we are all being treated as tolerated consumers of a free service, whereas many of us are paying customers.
I can sort of understand a 'distant' attitude if I didn't pay for my access, but it is just bad business to treat paying customers in this way. Unfortunately they have the market and as a customer my choice is to play or not - I can't get the service from someone else.
One question I'd ask would be whether the customer service we get is linked to the income generated - ie are we not generating sufficient income to get the service ? It is still a bad business model but I'd understand it better.
Maybe the better question to ask of the admins is do they thing they are giving us a good level of service ? IMO they aren't but we could have significantly different expectations of service.
If I treated my customers the way the admins do (the wife has a beauty salon and I work in IT service management), I would be short on customers and out of a job.
Xyr
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| Thread: Szeszej, you need to read and reply to this thread |
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The UK planning system may not be the best in the world and there may be corruption, but is an example of something that works
There are clear quite strict rules and if you follow them you get planning, if you don't you get chucked out. There is no room for interpretation and it is a digital system - pass or fail.
The appeals system then can kick in and it is where planners can look at the bigger picture and apply common sense, flexibility and be reasonable.....or not.
What Isense here is that we have strict rules that are being more rigorously applied than ever before, but the appeals process is flawed or proven not to work.
i can understand if admins would not allow access to the appeals process to non-paying customers but as a payer of premium I would expect the right to have a fair appeal.
If Srej is our only appeal avenue at present, in my limited time on this server i have not observed the level of flexibility i would expect to have as a customer of a service. I'm sure he's a good guy with other stuff to do but there is a huge value in getting your customers onside and being see to be fair. The 'you don't know what I know and if i told you I'd have to kill you' defense wears thin after a while.
Regards
Xyr
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| Thread: zone 1 |
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Originally posted by diablo
Please, no government. I agreed to the idea that if everyone helps blod to build it then it is fine to share it, assuming Blod supports that idea as well.
Looks like I misunderstood your post Xyr, sorry. |
In trying to answer Artoir I've confused things again.
Forget the council/government thing.
The point we are agreeing on is that if as a server we chose to work with Blod to build a cathedral, Blod would be prepared to share the use of that square and that those using the resource would need to agree some rules around it.
Edit - Spawnraloom
Government done badly will spoil things, governance done lightly can give sufficient structure and framework to make things better. One is easy to do, the other is more challenging
Edit - I understand the multipost thing now and am editting my posts
Regards
Xyr
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| Thread: zone 1 |
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Artoir
Good to know your back and I retract my previous comment accordingly. I don't frequent the board that often. It's good that you're playing again.
I can't really answer your questions on the detail as I don't have any proposals on the mechanics. The principles are i would suggest
Individual Player - no governance required
Clan - clan governance structure agreed within the clan
Server - some kind of shared governance structure signed up to by participating clans
the server level governance would apply to anything that is cross clan - so the league idea would benefit from a server based governance structure as do any leagues in RL.
tbh I don't think the server is ready for it. If it was a council, I'd probably start with the top 10/12 clan leaders with a proviso of some kind of longevity in the role and status on the server.
I think we could choose to make it work with light enough governance but not for a good few months yet.
Blod, Diablo
Thanks for your support of the idea. I totally agree that the least you could expect is a decent swap square if you were sharing.
Regards
Xyr
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| Thread: zone 1 |
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I'm cool with that.
As long as there is a governance structure that keeps things real that's fine.
Regards
Xyr
p.s not sure what i did wrong on the multiple posting thing so may have done it again already in my ignorance 
Sorry
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| Thread: zone 1 |
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Originally posted by Artoir.
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Originally posted by mikem
It wouldn't make any difference to you anyway would it ?
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Don't get stroppy with me... |
I wasn't being stroppy, just factual. You are not currently playing so it wouldn't affect you was my point. If I'd known you were going to take offense at the comment I wouldn't have made it as it just detracts from the debate, which I would prefer not to do.
The principle stands that if players choose to share resources beyond a clan governance structure, another governance structure above the clan would probably be needed.
Regards
Xyr
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| Thread: zone 1 |
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Originally posted by Artoir.
Sounds a little Totalitarian to me, and even if it did happen people would get bored of it |
It does the way Diablo phrased it. See my response.
It wouldn't make any difference to you anyway would it ?
Xyr
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| Thread: zone 1 |
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Originally posted by diablo
The Council would effectively rule the whole server. That imo means that the game will get boring. Plus nobody can force someone to give up his/her square.
A lot of people in top10 is doing what you mentioned that Cesarz is doing, me included.
The council you mentioned, will effectively rule the whole Underworld. |
We have a different way of looking at things. I would say that the council would administrate the whole server and guide it gently in the right direction whilst enabling us to have some great fights. It would give some structure on which we could hang the league suggestion.
I think organisation and chaos can be equally boring or exciting.
Don't let that distract from the concept of pragmatic sharing of resource (z1) to achieve and a goal (Cathedral) that would be of benefit to the owner (Blod).
Would you be prepared to support such a thing if Blod and others wanted to make it happen ?
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| Thread: zone 1 |
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Originally posted by mikem
2. He somehow manages it and then the square becomes valued and we war over it. Maybe BoS are strong enough to keep it and maybe sufficient resistance can be made to get Cesarz in there. |
Would it make any difference for you if Cesarz was in Zone1? |
None at all. I would be suggesting exactly the same thing if cesarz was in the square or if I was in the square, though in the case of the latter it could be seen as a tactic to get the cathedral built.
I've been thinking around the principles for a while as to how as a server we can get around the constraints that the game puts on us. The discussion was an opportunity to put it forward for consideration. Before Z1 came into the picture my thought was around a council of clan leaders and senior players to arbitrate the running of the server. The management of z1 is just one function of that council.
Just to be completely open about things, apart from a conversation I had with Blod congratulating him on getting to Level 80 I have no experience, positive or otherwise apart from the very occasional ambush on me.
Cesarz has been exceptionally generous to me an gave me his z3 square for which I am extremely grateful. He also helps me with ppl for building. I have only discussed my thoughts on this with Belfegor in the past so the only reason I mention cesarz is purely because he is level 80.
My proposal to the server sits above any relationships I have with Cesarz, Belfegor or Blod and sits outside my allegience to my clan as it is unlikely Boot Camp will benefit from the z1 square as players will 'fly the coop' to other clans or start their own well before they reach level 80.
I think that there is a sound short term benefit to Blod to strike a deal and a sound long term benefit to the server to have a more council based approach to server management.
I also believe that under such a structure we can have more enjoyable conflicts and concepts like the war league that have been mooted are more likely to work.
Regards
Xyr
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