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Yowie, what setups did you use for caclulations. And are those numbers average calculations or max possible?
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theheraldofogc
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Also, are you accounting for tattoo damage boosts?
1/4 off Collectors?
100% crit boost of DL?
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dooz
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Also, are you accounting for tattoo damage boosts?
1/4 off Collectors?
100% crit boost of DL? |
Ehh, all ranged tattoos have the crit damage modifier. They reduced crit multiplier on weapons and added to tattoo to avoid a build involving solar set.
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i combined deadly set of speed deadly set of ds with hawks / vengeful whichever gave most dmg. In case of TK of dryad i also calculated with hawks of genius at p5. For example with pilum i used deadly of speed combined with deadly of speed on DL. Msg me if you want to know exact items.
yes i of course included tats bonuses and also respected their def reqs (1/4 dmg for collector or 2 attacks and 11 dmg for DL, however i didnt count possibilities as hunter - there might be hidden some small dmg boost but very small if any)
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Yowie
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Originally posted by dooz
Yowie, what setups did you use for caclulations. And are those numbers average calculations or max possible? |
Oh and i forgot to mention second time that those are average numbers with max possible setups or other factors (20% ignore defence, SB at 25%, max crit chance)
Also other races might get some other dmg boost, but i expect that TK will be best item in all races except absorber as dmg Boost from majesty for example favours lot of attacks of TKs instead to fewer attacks of pilum/xbow/composite with higher crit modifier. I really hope they will make it more even so we could see more possible builds
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theheraldofogc
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Cheers for the work Yowie.
Throwing Knife looked like a winner at a glance, but it's useful to see it hammered out
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how much longer will we wait for this patch? because you know, winter is coming...
more importantly if the changes are introduced can we be assured that there wont be any further changes to it for a longer time?
because so far it looks like every ranged user will need to upgrade a new weapon to p5 (specifically TK of dryad) which will cost a lot of stones and nobody wants to find a week or month later that there were some changes and best weapon is no longer TK but for example pilum of wolf. So can we be sure nothing like this happens? or if it does will we get refund for burned stones on upgrades and items we used to merge it?
And i am asking this for a reason as you(devs) did something like this not long ago, after a month or more collectors luck was reduced, and one of things that luck affects is crit chance. So basicaly you reduced collector's crit chance after i switched from hunter to collector and relied on crit chance from luck... and my point is not complaining about that now but to ask you to be more careful with changes like that.
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theheraldofogc
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Some details WOULD be nice.
It's already getting a bit brutal on Moria III scrapping over merge pieces, and that's just off of speculation :/
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No new info sadly
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theheraldofogc
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Booooo
I am at least ready now!
Got a Composite Bow of Dryad, plus a Shuriken of Vengeance to merge it into a Throwing Knife. Just want to double check which is better
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Demandred
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Has there been any development on this patch???
It's well past fall at this point... halfway through winter now. Some kind of update on when we should expect it would be very much appreciated
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theheraldofogc
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Any news on how this is going?
Which weapons are looking good?
Can you get the bonus in King of the Hill?
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theheraldofogc
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That is VERY impressive O.o
But I suppose by level 125 you'd want to be doing decent damage :p
Thanks Nndungu
(I just hope they don't scrap the TK of Dryad... already upgrading one on Moria III)
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Just wonderinghow things are going with this?
Is it looking like there need to be changes to the released details of the patch?
Will beta testing be continuing for much longer?
Some little info from the devs would be greatly appreciated
And Szeszej, no offence intended, but I think the fact that it was close to beta testing was new info (but maybe that's just me) or at least worth mentioning when it went into beta rather than saying nothing at all. It really doesn't do much for the feeling of being ignored when things aren't mentioned when the there ARE new developments...
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Yowie
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There have been some slight changes on beta already.
No idea how much longer but beta server is pretty dead already.
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theheraldofogc
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Improvements? Or nerfs to planned sets?
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The Beta is running, we'll have more info soon
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dooz
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Any changes to the proposed changes, ie. are all ranged weapons players preparing to use throwing knife of dryad now?
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theheraldofogc
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I have a Throwing Knife of Dryad ready to go on Moria III.
As such, I expect it to get nerfed all to hell :p
(Personally, I would like to see other options improved instead of the current best choice obliterated)
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changes so far look like this:
TK of dryad - crit chance down by 20%
TK of wolf - additional 30 dmg
Pilum of wolf - crit dmg modifier +50%
Composite bow of fire rate - more dmg (i think +50 dmg)
Pilum of fire rate - crit chance +30%
So still TK of dryad is best, absorbers may be little bit better with TK of wolf now
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Any changes to the proposed changes, ie. are all ranged weapons players preparing to use throwing knife of dryad now? |
yes still TK of dryad looks best
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I heard they will remove dodge from ranged tats
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02-06-2015 21:38 |
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theheraldofogc
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Thanks Yowie
Fire rate definitely needed something extra attached. The nerf isn't TOO devastating abd can be built around.
And what thing with dodge now?
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- crit chance to tk of dryad is still completly managable
you stil get 40% crit ?
considering with ta of reaction you get - 1%
i still think this is good
well i have my tk of dryad p5 ready and waiting...so hoping beta ends soon and we can test these out
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theheraldofogc
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Something I'm still not sure of...
Do the bonuses work in King of the Hill or not?
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Do the bonuses work in King of the Hill or not? |
yes they do
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Yay ^.^
Thanks for the updates
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Ba_al
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hey Szesejblah
how is beta testing looking right now ?
can we have a rough estimate at how long it will continue for ?
cheers
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Ba_al
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hey Szesejblah
how is beta testing looking right now ?
can we have a rough estimate at how long it will continue for ?
cheers
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bump
its very soon going to have to be renamed summer ranged patch
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The problem is the last couple of months were spent making the game comply with the newest EU regulations regarding online payments. The beta tests are largely completed, you should see the patch soon
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theheraldofogc
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Thank you Szesjez
Knowing what's tripped you up will keep us happy for a while :p
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Thanks for the updates. Looking forward to the patch
Still curious what was meant by "removing dodge from ranged tats"???
I'm not aware of any dodge from ranged tats to begin with... so unless the suggestion is not allowing ranged users to dodge at all (which is retarded) then I have no idea what it's about
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The problem is the last couple of months were spent making the game comply with the newest EU regulations regarding online payments. The beta tests are largely completed, you should see the patch soon
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ok thx szesej im looking forward to it ^^
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Silly you, you didn't know they were talking about fall 2015.
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theheraldofogc
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Maybe Ranged will be harder to dodge? :/
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Originally posted by Demandred
Thanks for the updates. Looking forward to the patch
Still curious what was meant by "removing dodge from ranged tats"???
I'm not aware of any dodge from ranged tats to begin with... so unless the suggestion is not allowing ranged users to dodge at all (which is retarded) then I have no idea what it's about |
there is no dodge so shhh..let them remove somethign that dosnt exist instead of removing aomething we actually need/use lol
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