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But if it wasn't for these crazy attacks when the Phoenix is on its last legs, I do think they would be too easy. I agree that four fireballs in one round is too much though. An expedition monster should not be allowed to do twice as many special attacks in one round. That's plain silly. We don't get to randomly deal an extra round of attacks with our weapons after all...

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# Phoenix performs a special attack Fireball, Evil-Eoin takes 284 damage.
# Phoenix performs a special attack Fireball, Evil-Eoin takes 197 damage.
# Evil-Eoin ends non-life on the battlefield.
# Phoenix performs a special attack Soundwave, Evangelion dodges the strike.
# Phoenix performs a special attack Soundwave, Ermantil (*) takes 99 damage.
# Phoenix performs a special attack Soundwave, xTAZx takes 102 damage.
# Phoenix performs a special attack Soundwave, Evangelion dodges the strike.
# Phoenix performs a special attack Soundwave, Ermantil (*) takes 87 damage.
# Phoenix performs a special attack Soundwave, Ermantil (*) dodges the strike.
# Phoenix performs a special attack Soundwave, Ermantil (*) takes 100 damage.
# Phoenix performs a special attack Soundwave, Ermantil (*) takes 83 damage.
# Phoenix attacks with beak, xTAZx takes 170 damage.
# Phoenix attacks with beak, Evangelion dodges the strike.

It speaks for itself.
Ok then, I'll try my best again tomorrow and we will see.

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Obviously it has happened to you a few times in some cases which sucks, but not in every expo does it happen.


Szeszej was given the figures that I had about frequency, and it came to more than a few.

in fact it came to 32 fails out of 35 expos (that includes both expos started and expos participated in), and that was only from the point where I actually started counting.

The 3 successes were a small white dragon, a very small black dragon and a phoenix.

And arguably it could be reduced to 27 out of 30 because of the run of 5 golem/red dragons in the middle of the fails ..... but even at 3 successes in 30, that is a little ridiculous, especially considering some of the expo parties that were wiped out in the space of 1-2 rounds with special attacks.

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okay now post all your failed ones.
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Yeah, that goes way beyond bad luck alright Gendibal. I think the double special attacks are the real problem and that's what is wiping entire parties out. The devs should think about limiting Phoenix to two fireballs per round, because four is just overkill.

Bliitz, I don't have any failed ones saved to post for you, but I can recount if that helps. I think we showed something like eight successes. I've been the lucky git that has started most of those because Zenfalcon and Kralen keep getting the "wrong" monster. We've had three Red Drakes and one Golem in the past week, all failed. I think we were beaten by two or three Phoenixes in that time as well. So overall, maybe a 50/50 success to fails ratio. Something that keeps you quite content. If I was Gendibal or Diablo, I'd be pulling my hair out for sure though...

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I hink I'll keep my hair where it is and patiently wait for my stroke of luck. One phoenix in a few hours and next one tomorrow. I'll let you know guys.

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Yes, please do and good luck - you're due a bit of it! Smile

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Big Phoenix anyway. Unlucky though. The sword works so much better than the sniper. You should try and get something like Murderous for the agility and crit boost. Can you fit a fourth person with 100+ agility at all? Could make all the difference too...

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http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=d65b0d06e5

Going by the logic that has been put forward by the devs/admins so far, the Red Dragon is a gunnery weak creature, so a player stripping most of its hp using melee must mean that it needs powering up on all servers (regardless of whether or not players on other servers have actually reached this stage yet)

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I'd say that he's both bunnery and melee weak, but with an attack that one-shots one player Smile

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I think with that last one the special couldn't have help either.

No one on the game can get above 1000 hp without building bonuses, so if the dragon decides to spontaniously use 4 firebreathes in one round, everyones going to be dead just like that.

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I've never seen a red Drag use multiple specials in a round, its the Phoenix' that uses the ridiculous multiple specials

*EDIT http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=5646579&key=78af2d1c06

What a surprise ...... NOT ..... the very next Phoenix does 3 consecutive rounds consisting of 4 specials. Interesting to note how the fireball only did half as much damage to the defence 51 member (150 - 180 approx) as it did to the defence 171 member (320 - 340).

So that brings the total to 34 failures out of 37 attempts ........ bad luck? I think not.

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quote:
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I'd say that he's both bunnery and melee weak, but with an attack that one-shots one player Smile


whats bunnery ???
so if we attack with buns he is weak ???
what if i stick a bun on the end of my melee weapon, would i own then Tongue
anyone got buns to auction ??? i buy SS minimum Tongue

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Sounds like some kinda ???

This game going to turn into an online ??? game or something?

Who want's to buy a frickin pikachu? going for 1 heartstone ^^

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Sorry, I believe that you aren't allowed to advertise other games on this forum/website. I know it is stupid, but I will have to remove those game names'.

PS. That was hilarious Tongue Tongue I'll buy it start price 7 BS (wish that I had 7 BS Tongue )

PPS. Bunnery is a typo of 'Gunnery' Tongue Tongue Lol

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...How is saying the NAME of a game in my post advertising it? Especially seeing as it's a TV show first.

...and on that note...there isnt any pokemon online game that i know of
so unless i'm advertising nothing, then i'm very confused.

Should be able to buy some kinda little monster pet though. Be a great adition to the game.

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Google is powerful so even saying only the name is advertising Big Grin

And a little pet would be a good idea. It would gain experience with every ambush and have special attacks like the expedition mobs Smile

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If we're going to have pets, I'll have a Phoenix ........ that'll be an almost automatic win in every siege

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Gendibal Tongue

Pets would be cool, but what animals would vampires keep do you think?

I reckon some sort of dog?

Perhaps if they had their own arcana, there would be 4 different breeds:

Doberman=Beastmaster

Bloodhound=Absorber

Poodle=Cultist

Jack Russel=Thoughtcatcher Tongue

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hmm i agree but ud have to have some kind of bat as well.
artoir do u have something against cultists?? wats a poodle got to do with vampires??

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well, pets might be very helpfull in expos Big Grin


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...How is saying the NAME of a game in my post advertising it? Especially seeing as it's a TV show first.

...and on that note...there isnt any pokemon online game that i know of
so unless i'm advertising nothing, then i'm very confused.

Should be able to buy some kinda little monster pet though. Be a great adition to the game.



1. I don't know what year you live in, but in my era there are ??? games for the DS and Gameboy.

2. I do not believe that there is an online game, but as stated in 1, there are other games...

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Well scillage, since it's not an online game then we could leave them uncensored. Just look at this thread, it's full of offline games Smile

Ok, end of offtopic.

I think pets shouldn't be like items but like a small help in ambushes (they wouldn't work in sieges), an additional pair of attacks Smile

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Yeah but how much would they cost? I'd say about 3000 lgo a pop would be ok

[and scillage i know it is a game but almost everything on tv is a game nowadays]

AND I WOULDN'T WANT A POODLE!?!?!
I like dalmations though ^^

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They should be expensive, like 10000 pop, 3000 poh and 10000 blood Smile

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If i had to give up 10,000 POP, i'd expect to keep it forever then. 10,000 POP is a long time to save up

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about 6-7 days Smile considering you have successful expeditions

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that's a big 'considering' at the moment

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haha well seeing as the threads about expedition mods being out of whack, it's safe to say that the expos wouldn't succeed and would therefore take alot longer to get 10,000 POP

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Doberman=Beastmaster

Bloodhound=Absorber

Poodle=Cultist

Jack Russel=Thoughtcatcher

no way lol powerful hounds or lions ECT

Doberman=beastmaser

bloodhound=Absorber

something like a jungle animal for a cultist=lion/tiger

white tiger/silver back ape Smile

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http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=f9f46b07b5

Yet another straight failure .... 35 out of 38

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With two people doing 0 dmg

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hmmmm, 2 people doing 0 damage, that equals the amount of people taken out in 1 round by special attacks there.

And I notice these comments only come out when theres a clear 'reason', what happened to the explanations when we were showing 4 specials in 2 rounds? just a quick comment of 'bad luck, maybe it'll be different next time' ............ these sorts of figures are not purely bad luck, the quality of some of the decimated teams shows that. Someone, somewhere either isn't quite telling the truth, or is stretching the literal meaning of what they are saying about these mobs.

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you still cant expect to win with only two people dealing damage. a small phoenix has around 3500 and you and zen covered that after 6 rounds. you need an extra hitter i think for most DE expos

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we've had parties of 4 hitters decimated by 4 specials in 2 rounds before, it doesn't matter how many quality hitters we have, the special attacks wipe out every possible permutation almost every time.

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Well, If you had more hitters on THIS expedition you'd win it, I'm almost sure. Taking less hitters cause they MAY be killed by special attacks isn't very reasonable I think.

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iv had three specials in one round but managed to win somehow, everytime i have faced a phoenix over the past month i have come away with a win and thats with either three or four hitters. i say close to 20 expos aswel.

http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=186c603140

has it always been four specials in your expos?

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Would we? Or would the special attacks have started earlier (at the earliest possible opportunity as usual). The expo would have just been over faster with (going from the rate indicated by previous attempts) around a 1 in 13 chance of the players winning, so you're probably wrong there Szeszej.

Not always 4, sometimes the party go down too fast to see what else would have come out in the round ..... but in most of the phoenix it has been 3-4 specials over 2 rounds, yes.


now 35 out of 39, still not a phoenix kill tho.

http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=9855a2d84f

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http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=1ad8d6f766
Now try to explain to me that we needed more hitters or i don't know what. Special attack started in 3rd round. It is pissing me off. Big time.

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