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shydowen
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In to the game, I know it may have been done a million times before. but i would like to try again.
Come up with a few ideas about how to improve the game
THINGS to consider before typing.......
1) the idea has to apply to ALL players, useable by ALL players ( note not neccessarely all characters)
2) has to be balanced and not swing power to far into one group ( race, class, lvl ect)
3) usable in general in the game
4) does your comment (whether you like the idea or not) help the developer of the ideas improve or change ( don't just rip an idea down just cause it's not to your liking)
if am Idea comes up and you think it may be un balanced or unfare, post replys that may say that but put ideas in then to change it for the better
Don't insult people because of a bad idea.... lets show the MODS, we are responsible people who like the game and want the game to get better.....
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nelacar
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ive said this before i think why dont we start a wide scale war.few clans one one side a few on the other an posts reults here??
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02-27-2008 15:00 |
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Artoir.
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Large scale war would be very fun 
As long as each and every player was fair, clans were equal, and players didnt switch clans throughout
Perhaps the Devs could make sure this was the case?
An epic battle organised by the Developers, whoever wants to can sign up. Then after the sign up period of say a week or two, each player is randomly assigned to one of two clans (im sure they could increase the max number of players per clan in this situation)
The clans would not be able to attack, or be attacked by anyone other than the opposing clan.
Then say after a few weeks, the clan that has gained the most PoH wins 
And there doesnt have to be a prize, the participants can go back to their business and use the huge amounts of PoH for plenty of expos 
Tell me what you think?
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02-27-2008 15:08 |
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nelacar
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i like this idea we could set a points limit per clan so it will be fair or say the first clan on both sides is for high lvls and they can only seige each other.the next would be low lvls etc.it could with a bit of taught.we could write up a back story for it aswell give it some meaning.
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02-27-2008 16:46 |
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nelacar
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so why dont we just do it....get a list of list of people willin to make a clan for this war first and we will post their names and decide on whos on whos side.we can then get ppl to join their clans an we will decide on a start date..more suggestions plz if we r going to make dis work.
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kralen
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yeah that idea sounds good it was in the pipe line ages ago for a huge all out war best way is to have a list with names, levels, etc etc.
i think it could be a huge thing if people sign up for it
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02-27-2008 17:01 |
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nelacar
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true suuport of devs admins and everyone is needed.but if we take it step by step it can be possible.as far as super clans attacking each other.we would have clans for each player base and they can only attack another clan of equal strenght.each side would have a clan or 2 with only players with 50+pts.the next would be 30-50 and so forth.u could have a cap of say only 2-3ppl lvl50 plusso all the top players cant team up.or u could chose from the raknins.player ranked 1 would be on side a ranked 2 on team b and so on so the sides are equal.
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02-27-2008 17:09 |
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Artoir.
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Yea sounds really good, and definitely think its important not to leave out the lower levels.
There was a war supposed to be started sometime ago as Kralen said, but it was mainly for very high levels
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02-27-2008 17:12 |
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diablo
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As far as I know preparations are being done for 'city events' which is more or less what you're talking about.
The big war think wouldn't work. If one big clan would not participate it could make tremendous advantages and ravage squares of everyone in the game.
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02-27-2008 21:31 |
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Cthulhu
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Ok - I like the whole scale war; but how about this...
It would take a little organising, and I think someone may have already suggested something along these lines; but how about a "Champions League"? (but maybe we could think of a better name?)
Each month, clans (who want to contend) put forward a fighter.
We draw up a knock-out competition (the winning clan gets the responsibility of organising this). Obviously you would have to have three categories of levels (high, medium, low).
Then we fight naked, apart from the best weapon you can equip naked.
Obviously, this does make it completely fair - but come on; its as fair as its gonna get!
The hard part? Getting the BW team to offer a prize to the winner of each category... say a LS? Surely they can organise that.... or else, we just compete for kudos!
hahahahahahahahahaha....
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02-27-2008 22:29 |
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Artoir.
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Lots of cool ideas here
Now all we need is Dev's that will give us a tiny bit of feedback 
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Evangelion
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Well, it's very hard to write a script that'll take care of cheaters who will try to wear any items. Too much work... I think that the dev team has it's own ideas of a new "competition" which are easier to implement into the game system.
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02-27-2008 23:19 |
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Artoir.
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Wel can YOU tell us anything about it given the Devs rarely pop by?
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Evangelion
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I just know some things about writing scripts and I know the way dev team thinks from the polish board. Of course I didn't say that it's impossible. They can always throw away everything they started working on and create such script. But that would stop the game progress for an enormous amount of time.
And the idea isn't perfect too. Weaker players would complain on the stronger ones no matter how many categories of lvls there will be.
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02-27-2008 23:27 |
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Roostie
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Originally posted by Cthulhu
It would take a little organising, and I think someone may have already suggested something along these lines; but how about a "Champions League"? (but maybe we could think of a better name?)
Each month, clans (who want to contend) put forward a fighter.
We draw up a knock-out competition (the winning clan gets the responsibility of organising this). Obviously you would have to have three categories of levels (high, medium, low).
Then we fight naked, apart from the best weapon you can equip naked.
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I like this idea. Even if we can't do it on a large scale it could be good on a small scale by just picking a clan at a similar level and doing it.
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Artoir.
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Well thanks for taking the time reply anyway Evan
Do the polish or french boards have anything similar to this?
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02-27-2008 23:31 |
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Evangelion
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Originally posted by Artoir.
Do the polish or french boards have anything similar to this? |
You mean similar to what? Such ideas?
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02-27-2008 23:34 |
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Cthulhu
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Cheaters get a short ban? No script needed for that - 
And also get put onto a list of shame - hey, come on we're vampires, you know some of us are gonna wanna get on the Champions list & the Cheaters list - no harm in that - it is a game after all?
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Very true. But, tough. I'm not here to listen to complainers - I'm here because I enjoy playing this game as it is, as well as wanting to make it better, and you're right people will always complain - even when they get the things they want.
No, the game is not always fair - so what. Who amongst has ever played a game that was completely fair?? It's not a game if there isn't some risk, element of loss, (a cheater to expose -
). I'm not suggesting any massive changes to the script... just a little of organisation & competition... oh, & maybe a prize or two 
I get a little fed up of reading some of the comments posted by people who clearly aren't enjoying the game because they feel it is un-fair (too hard). Yes, this is a hard game. The rewards don't come easy, and you don't get to be the best player after a couple of months of playing. Good - I hate games like that.
Example? Take a look at all the comments on Zauborin's leaving post; the guy was the best because he commited time & effort, and look at the respect he got.
(ok, this is turning into a cheesy action movie speech; wrap it up)
Anyway, I have digressed. It was just an idea; if the Dev's are working on something like it then great! If not, then hopefully they'll have a read & ponder the possibilities. And until they do develop anything, then maybe some of the clans can try and put something together in the mean time.... anyone got experience of arranging a knock-out competition?
Alternatively Evan, fancy laying down a gauntlet to one of the other clan's for a one-2-one naked fight? I'm sure someone in our clan would take up the challenge of an equal - I'm happy to put my money (& blood) where my mouth (or tentacles) is. hehehe 
The Rules:
1 - The first rule of BloodWars is, you do not talk about BloodWars (hehe - couldn't resist)
2 - The second rule of BloodWars is, you do NOT talk about BloodWars (sorry - really couldn't
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3 - Each pair of fighters must be equal in points - not level
4 - You enter the fight naked; apart from ONE weapon
5 - The winner is the last vamp standing
6 - If the fight goes the distance - the vamp with more HP remaining is the winner - but the loser gets to call a re-match.
7 - ALL results are posted under the BATTLEFIELD section of the board for all to see - so if you cheat, then you get exposed.
8 - No matter what the result - no grudges are held - these are not precursers to clan wars - if you lose, then be graceful in defeat... and go train some more!
The Rewards:
1 - Respect
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Artoir.
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Yes Evan, similar city events?
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diablo
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Just imagine BoS would choose me to represent the clan. With the attributes of gunman, what weapon would I be able to wear? Melee fighters are clearly favored here. Iven if I took my uzi, if my opponent would take 2h sword the outcome of the battle is clear.
This idea is not thought to full excent.
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Evangelion
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Originally posted by Artoir.
Yes Evan, similar city events? |
Well, such events had been proposed several times on the polish board.
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The Rules:
1 - The first rule of BloodWars is, you do not talk about BloodWars (hehe - couldn't resist)
2 - The second rule of BloodWars is, you do NOT talk about BloodWars (sorry - really couldn't Big Grin )
3 - Each pair of fighters must be equal in points - not level
4 - You enter the fight naked; apart from ONE weapon
5 - The winner is the last vamp standing
6 - If the fight goes the distance - the vamp with more HP remaining is the winner - but the loser gets to call a re-match.
7 - ALL results are posted under the BATTLEFIELD section of the board for all to see - so if you cheat, then you get exposed.
8 - No matter what the result - no grudges are held - these are not precursers to clan wars - if you lose, then be graceful in defeat... and go train some more! |
I would only add a rule about the character build. Gunners vs gunners, 2h melee vs 2h melee, 1h melee vs 1h melee and ranged vs ranged. So there won't be any 20 agility vs 40
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02-29-2008 13:26 |
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bobalob57
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if you were going to do that i would say that it would be all melle vs all melle, all guns verse all guns, ect, and that you should nbe able to weild the max weps posssible, e.g diablo can wield both his guns
also for rewards, you could have stones as you said, depending on the lvs, e.g ls for lw lv, ms for medium and ss for high, as the low lvs dnt really need ss do they?
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Cthulhu
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Ok - if people think that is a better idea, then rule 4 becomes: You enter the fight naked; apart from weapons.
Then we just have write up some categories:
Category 1 Fight
Gunner vrs Gunner
Category 2 Fight
1H melee vrs 1H melee
Category 3 Fight
2H melee vrs 2H melee
Category 4 Fight
Ranged vrs Ranged
The only thing I'm not sure of, if the tattoos will have any advantages for some people - but then I guess I would say to that, if they do, they do. You worked hard to earn them, so...
As for rewards; lets be honest, the BWT are unlikely to give us anything. So, until pigs start flying overhead, we should go back to the original suggestion: Respect
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tr3at5
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crazy idea
no one will have the standard int/wisdom to wear their current weapon naked
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03-02-2008 10:26 |
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bobalob57
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we could have the option in the final for each player to offer a reward, that both players agree on
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03-02-2008 10:56 |
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Roostie
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To negate the Tattoo's you could set up the classes that way so
Assassin V Assassin
Monk V Monk
and so on
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bobalob57
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hmm. theres a problem developing now. there are a huge amount of clss and you have to battle against someone whoe has the same tatooes, and wep class. so theres not going to be many people in the competitions. jus have it so tatooes dont work during the competitions
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03-02-2008 18:15 |
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diablo
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As was discussed in a different part of the forum, the reward could be 'Weapon experience' What do you think?
Personally, I don't like the idea of being 'naked' just because of the tattoos and the fact that as you progress you need better equip and you spend half of the playtime just trying to get it.
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bobalob57
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weapon experiance would be a good idea as a reward. i no i should put this in wep experiance section, but if you had weapon experiance like points of progress, that you spent on uprgades, e.g crit hit, then that would be a good reward, so winning would get similar rewawards to completing a task
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Cthulhu
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Weapon Experience? Hmm, I'll go look that up.
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- have you gone shy on us?
Seriously; I can imagine there are probably countless reasons why it won't work & people won't like etc, etc. But the theme of the topic was generate some ideas that might make the game more "fun" for some people.
As I previously made clear, I don't actually have a problem with the way the game is; but I thought as something "fun" to do at the weekends, or when we've all just had enough of finding a club, a mace, & a cap+1 on our last caravan. Why not have the occasional pre-organised crazy fight that doesn't mean anything, doesn't ask people to take the game too seriously, and could generate some witty remarks on the Board.
I agree with Scillage & Bobalob - tattoos wiil have to be out of it. However, as Scillage sort of points out, if you are lucky enough to have a tattoo that may help, then more luck to you.
I think this point is covered by Rule 8 in my original list above:
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Hehehe - thats the point Tr3at5 - its just a bit of fun; I did think about saying no weapons at first; but then I got to thinking it would be interesting to see what people can wield without equip boosts.
Also, to make it clear - I'm not suggesting that people have to take part in this; its just an option.
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