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arania
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Of Raxis closing down discussion threads.....
Especially in off topic, where things are meant to be discussed....
And his reasons for closing down threads is lame....
Answers quickly before the power goes to his head yet again and he closes this thread.... lol
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Artoir.
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And what "truth" is that Minshres?
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Pops
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please enlighten us minshres. you seem to know more about it than we do
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arania
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Hey Minshires, you seem to have the Mods in a flap.... Is it because you know something they dont and they dont feel as important any more.... lmfao
Dont tell them anything, knowledge is power....
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03-27-2009 13:54 |
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Artoir.
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Go through the offtopic section and count how many threads are RNG related and you will see why mods close them; Because almost every day a new one starts complaining that the RNG is unfair or that something is broken.
I suggest you dig around some older posts complaining about the same thing, where players have done experiments with regards to things like upgrading or questing chances with 1000's of calculations (after all if you flip a coin six times, it very rarely lands on heads 3 times and tails 3 times) and they have found the RNG is working perfectly.
Another misconception that it "likes" some players and dislikes others is impossible. All it is, is a piece of code. It doesn't have the capacity to differentiate between players and it doesn't have good moods or bad moods, it's all down to chance.
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03-27-2009 14:14 |
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minshres
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Truth about RNG: its random.
lmao. its a stupid comment i KNOW. but u asked for it
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03-27-2009 21:28 |
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Evangelion
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Originally posted by minshres
Truth about RNG: its random. |
And that's how every discussion about RNG should end...
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03-27-2009 22:05 |
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03-28-2009 05:06 |
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Raxis
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Hmm True to fashion Arania I think I may close this thread
The fact is that really every time someone complains about RNG related stuf they should get a warning, since it's repeating topics that already exist. But we don't, we simply close them.
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03-28-2009 07:42 |
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arania
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Knew it wouldn't be long...
The powers that be are taking our freedom of speech away.... Next it will be or freedom of thought.... Oh! sorry they do that already through TV and mindless computer games...lol
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03-28-2009 09:13 |
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Evangelion
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Lol, freedom of speech? I'd say it's freedom of repeating the past...
It's like 3 political parties making a news conference and every one of them talking about the same thing but in different words. The same bunch of lies (the politics, not the talks about rng).
The same pattern applies to the discussions about rng, different words, same arguments and (as always) complaints that rng is not always random...
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03-28-2009 09:19 |
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Ba_al
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well i have to agree with the mods on this one.....
the rng is exactly that a rng
now dont get me wrong id love to have great drops everyday but if that was the case the rare items woudnt be so rare would they.....
i get the club+1,shirt,cap+3 everyday....but every now and again(yesterday) i got 3 ls and a few hs......
i dont no what else can be added to this discussion that hasnt been said b4..
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03-28-2009 14:06 |
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Evangelion
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Everything has been told before. Now players are repeating the complaints and the mods are repeating the answer
Good thing this thread is in the offtopic section, otherwise this would be a warning spree
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minshres
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i have been wondering since this is RNG thread so lets talk about RNG stuff...
is finding lucky items in quest RNG? if it wasn't then everyone should be finding lucky stuff right.
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03-28-2009 18:47 |
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God_Like_Friend
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Hmm how about adding...
Chance for success (Theoretical): 90%
as the Actual chance for success is a little higher / lower if I remember from somebody testing..?
It wouldn't stop people ranting but it would be a little more accurate and tell people that this is only the chance they should get, not what is always actually achieved
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03-28-2009 19:32 |
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Originally posted by Evangelion
The same pattern applies to the discussions about rng, different words, same arguments and (as always) complaints that rng is not always random... |
of course, it is a software random number generator so it is a PRNG and actually not really random
*scnr
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03-28-2009 19:35 |
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God_Like_Friend
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Originally posted by schwertische
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Originally posted by Evangelion
The same pattern applies to the discussions about rng, different words, same arguments and (as always) complaints that rng is not always random... |
of course, it is a software random number generator so it is a PRNG and actually not really random
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No machine has the randomness the humans do.
All of them must follow some kind of algorithm therefore not completely random but too close for most people to notice a pattern.
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And btw Agresiel your signature needs an update, it's more than a year now
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03-28-2009 19:43 |
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Originally posted by God_Like_Friend
No machine has the randomness the humans do.
All of them must follow some kind of algorithm therefore not completely random but too close for most people to notice a pattern. |
Well, if you work with some quantal gauging stations switching between quantal-time and quantal-locality you could realise a rng, but I'm drunk and not a physicist so I wouldn't count on that idea.
I'm in doubt that a human can be random without a pattern, anyway it wouldn't change the game system at all if it would be real random, the only thing that would change is that with a real rng you have no possibility to (re-)calculate it
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03-28-2009 20:03 |
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Evangelion
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This reminds me of a dry joke:
A discussion between two geeks:
- I need a random number generator.
- Four.
That's the fun part of the rng
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God_Like_Friend
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Originally posted by Evangelion
This reminds me of a dry joke:
A discussion between two geeks:
- I need a random number generator.
- Four.
That's the fun part of the rng
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Lol. If you have ever had a conversation with me Schwertische you will know randomness is real.
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