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Posted by Gendibal on 03-02-2008 at17:13:

Don't be silly, the admins test it all on the Polish servers then implement it here afterwards ..... because of course 'if it works on the Polish servers, then it is usre to work here' (NOT!)

Posted by Evangelion on 03-02-2008 at17:30:

Well, as far as I remember they have their own test server and the tests are closed so not everybody can test the new updates.

They usually implement new patches on polish servers several hours before the english ones. If during those several hours there are some complications then the implementation of the patch here is postponed.

Posted by Gendibal on 03-02-2008 at18:19:

but if we get complications after its implemented here, then we have to make do until the next patch

Posted by GrimTale on 03-08-2008 at12:19:

Sorry if this has already been answered but..

The new races arcana it says +7 damage after hp below 35% 40bp/level

If i do level 2 of it, does it make it +14 damage when hp is below 35% or does the damage stay the same, but the hp bit goes up to 40% or what?

Posted by diablo on 03-08-2008 at17:36:

quote:

Originally posted by GrimTale
Sorry if this has already been answered but..

The new races arcana it says +7 damage after hp below 35% 40bp/level

If i do level 2 of it, does it make it +14 damage when hp is below 35% or does the damage stay the same, but the hp bit goes up to 40% or what?

I would say that the effect will stack, so level 2 would grant +14 damage when HP<35%

Posted by GrimTale on 03-08-2008 at18:19:

Not bad then. Would mean i can add on 35 damage when hp is that low. Cool

Posted by HellsAngel on 03-11-2008 at22:59:

it doesnt really matter wat any of it does to be honest, this game takes to long to get anywhere. maybe the top players will continue playing, but us lower rankedare getting fed up chasin unrealistic aims.... not every1 can be arsed to play online games 24h a day (even if we did we will never have a chance to get top) this isnt a skill based game its just time consuming!!! and frankly im fed up so im leaving.

By the way the makers ov this game are wankers and will never change anything to make this more enjoyable as long as they make money out of it. was a fun game to start with but i realised flaws that only us gamers realised and im finaly guna stick my middle finger up and fuck off.

wont suprise me if they delete this tab lol

(no offence intednded just frustrated)

Posted by DarkOne on 03-12-2008 at01:09:

another one

Posted by Scillage on 03-21-2008 at09:28:

Right, it has been 9 and a half weeks since date of posting Szeszej, any information on how the tests have gone?

Posted by Szeszej on 03-21-2008 at10:54:

Nothing new yet, but as soon as I get more information it'll be posted here.

Posted by diablo on 04-01-2008 at08:46:

http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=5756747&key=02c1825dca

Guns first, agility follows Smile

Does it mean we got the upgrade but were not told about it?

Posted by theheraldofogc on 04-01-2008 at15:26:

The ranged people fight first!

How DARE logic be applied when the status quo suited my style of play better Tongue

Don't worry Diablo! I'm still working on my Dodging Bullets tattoo Wink

Posted by galahad on 04-03-2008 at09:55:

RE: Patch 1.1

Guns 2h - +1attack, dmg +20%
Guns 1h - chance to hit *1,35, dmg +30%
Melee 1h - critical strike +10%, dodge +5%
Melee 2h - critical strike +25%, chance to hit *1,25
Ranged - critical strike chance *5

i think that two melee is very good guns 1h very weak Happy

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Posted by diablo on 04-03-2008 at13:26:

@ galahad: What did you expect? A balanced patch? LOL

I explained earlier that one and two handed melee weapons are superior to guns or ranged. +30% damage on Scorpio? Oh, thanks!

Scorpio (+5)
One-handed gun
Damage: 8 - 20

Legendary Scorpio (+5)
One-handed gun
Damage: 10 - 26

Melee 1h - critical strike +10%, dodge +5%
Melee 2h - critical strike +25%, chance to hit *1,25

Just imagine Blodsugare, Vlade or Cezarz with Legendary weapons.... and of course +1 attack for Beastmasters.

Oh, and thanks for the new Cultist arcana. Its nice and pointless.

PS: Why bother, by the time the patch will be ready half of the people here will be gone anyway.

Posted by Gendibal on 04-03-2008 at15:11:

quote:

PS: Why bother, by the time the patch will be ready half of the people here will be gone anyway.

Apart from tweaks the patch is ready ...... and each tweak will be tailored to the server it's being tested on and the playerbase that are testing it. Which server and playerbase are those I wonder?

And think carefully about this one dev team ...... just look at who made the comment about people leaving there. Diablo has always been one of the eternal optimists about your patches, but it seems that even optimism has some limits ..... and you appear to have reached and passed those.

Posted by kraftie on 04-03-2008 at16:41:

quote:

Originally posted by HellsAngel

[color-blue] this isnt a skill based game its just time consuming!!!

To be honest it isnt, its a game where whoever has the best items win but the better items are limited by stats and the only way to get better stats is to go up levels and to go up levels you need to gain exp and the fasted way to gain exp is to do succesful expeditions.

In the past I've had little moans but as you get stronger you can see passed the smaller flaws like the expedition monsters and ranking. You dont go to work and say I'm not working because its time consuming so grow up play if you want if you dont you dont, thers no need to broad cast how small minded you are to us.

Sorry about the necropost but its stupid

Posted by GrimTale on 04-05-2008 at13:06:

Ranged - critical strike chance *5

ok this totally sucks for 2 reasons:

1. ranged only get 1 bonus where every other weapon gets two
2. if anything ranged need a damage bonus because no parameter increases it's damage.

Posted by Mlarinon on 04-05-2008 at13:15:

If not damage, ranged would need an even higher defense avoid (instead of 1/4th maybe 1/6th).

Because really, before the bonuses I was really thinking of going for hunter's tatoos. But as I am a beastmaster (and adding one attackif you weapon does fez damage is not all taht useful at high level) from these bonuses I will definetely go back to my first idea of blacknight (I don't like one handed, it is too common)

Posted by diablo on 04-05-2008 at15:57:

quote:

Originally posted by Mlarinon
If not damage, ranged would need an even higher defense avoid (instead of 1/4th maybe 1/6th).

That would make it actually less Smile

5 times more critical chance seems good enough to me, but I didn't use ranged for a long time.

Posted by GrimTale on 04-05-2008 at17:53:

Still unfair the rest get 2, and it would seem fair to you, you aren't a ranger

I've used ranged since i started and it's alot tougher because of the damage staying the same unless you get a damage increasing pre/suffix.

Yeah we may get damage *3 when critical hits, but 2 handed melee get *4, and theyre going to get extra chance to get the critical AND more chance to hit, not to mention their damage get's increased by strength in the first place.

I just think the people who're making this game are really trying to back ranged equipment into a corner to make no one use them.

EDIT: one mroe note, max critical chance is 85, so we only need less then 20% chance to critical for us to reach the max.

Posted by Artoir. on 04-06-2008 at20:47:

Now really, I'm hoping someone's going to say "You're wrong, you missed.."

But

Am I correct in reading

The new arcana for absorber is this:

Absorber= additional expedition arcana.

ABSORBER'S ARCANA IS USELESS IN EXPEDITIONS!!!

Posted by Scillage on 04-06-2008 at21:01:

You're wrong. You missed... Wink

Jokes. But seriously you are wrong. Absorbers arcana is crap in expo's atm so we get new arcana which is just for us and is the best (hopefully) for expos Wink

Posted by Artoir. on 04-06-2008 at21:07:

Aaaah ok

I misunderstood.

I was under the impression we got extra Silence of Blood for expos Roll Eyes

I hope it's damn good, with BM getting an extra attack we deserve something of significance

Posted by theheraldofogc on 04-07-2008 at00:55:

Mwhahahahaha!

What is your meagre Absorber arcana going to be that will surpass an extra shot with a Sniper Rifle in an Expo?

I'll tell you what! Reduces monster defence (expedition only). It's only a guess, but if it is that then when it comes to Sniper Rifles we would still rule, but you can actually use other weapons then. Hunting Rifle ftw!

Another possibility would be absorbing Agility and Perception (expo only) at great expence but it would a) close the gap between you, b) make an Absorber essential for any expo team, and c) make Absorber teams ooze pure win on an expo.

You watch though, it'll be something crappy and near useless even if it is better then nothing. But then, I'm not on the dev team (although maybe I should be...).

Posted by diablo on 04-07-2008 at11:15:

It can't be worse than Cultist's 'Searing Blood'
Thoughtcatchers will finally get better in expos and sieges, Beastmasters will be only beatable by absorbers (with blood) and cultists will entertain the server with 200 damage in first round and no regeneration Big Grin

Furthermore, once we (or they) get legendary weapons nobody would dare to say the name Vlade without fear, Blodsugare will become a semi-god and I will be shooting my guns on ranged players because they can't increase damage. Sounds good Big Grin

BTW, can we expect the patch before christmas?

(am I in a jolly mood today...)

Posted by theheraldofogc on 04-07-2008 at13:44:

You just saw what the 1.0.1 means for you ;P

How happy will you be if an expo mob drops a naturally perfect Uzi? Perfect is possible on the higher expeditions and with a higher drop rate...

Back on topic before Evan catches me again: the more I think about the lack of Race bonus for Beastmaster the more annoyed I get. Have we been written off as melee only now? I know I was the one who pointed out the expo potential but I expect the nancy-boy-easy-level-player Absorbers new arcana to rain on that parade.

Thoughtcatchers have high luck. Better item drops, better chances it riches. With a better arcana they can now make full use of it too.

Cultists have a luck bonus too and a Blood Point boost for their good arcana (I'm going to watch and see with this new one. I reckon you can build around it as a ranged 'kill anything').

Absorbers get everything before us AND a health boost. Although I'm sure when we're all level 100 we'll all level out and can make up for lost time in 5 years or so.

And what bonuses will the new race get?

So what about us? We getting handed the golden ticket of melee but can't keep up with the other races to use it? And remember we do well in ambushes off our sickening strength which the new attack castrates.

Posted by diablo on 04-07-2008 at22:14:

Not melee only. Imagine Zeruel with 4 attacks with a Shotgun (while keeping his deadly criticals).
If there would be a new server opening I would do something similar to Zeruels charaxcter but with 1h guns and collector tattoos.

Posted by theheraldofogc on 04-08-2008 at00:26:

Whoops! Misconstrued my arguement. I meant Ambushes in general handed to us on a platter.

I was wondering just how much this arcana is worth if we don't get anything else while the other races get an even greater boost on top of their head start.

Are we that dangerous people NEED the head start? Storywise I suppose it suits the fact we're feral mentals. We're still working out which end of the stick is pointy while everyone works on building their empire.

Then when we finally work it out we eat them Wink

Posted by GrimTale on 04-17-2008 at22:47:

So Dev's ... any chance you'll be telling us what the new races traits are going to be??

Yeah we aren't getting the patch on our server yet, but it'd be nice to know everything about the new race so we can start to ponder if we would want to change it.

Posted by diablo on 04-18-2008 at02:41:

NEW RACES
In the second act your char will be able to grow in power and aquire new arcana, but you'll have to find out how to do it. Smile

Cursed one= vampire race which originates from Carpatian Mountains. It is said that the creator of it was Vlad Drakos, croatian reeve who wanted to hide his repulsive appearance by burying himself far away from people where he was changed by one of the elder vampires. All of his descendants take after his strange mutations which change them into hideous beasts.
Nighthunter - 1 perception/20bp
Deathbreath - +7 dmg when HP<35%, cost 40bp/lvl
Horror - both sides have 0 reputation and 0 charisma during the fight. Cost 80 bp. You are immune to the Punishment effect. (max 1 lvl)

It's in the first post.

If you mean raciat traits as far as I know they are unknown.

How about : luck +5 chance for critical hit +5% ?

Posted by GrimTale on 04-18-2008 at16:48:

quote:

Originally posted by diablo
If you mean raciat traits as far as I know they are unknown.

That's what i meant, if it's getting tested on polish server then they must know the racial traits, wondered if you could tell us.

Posted by Artoir. on 04-20-2008 at14:57:

Question

Just pondering, for those of you over the level 50 mark, who will be going to the second act straight away?

Posted by Scillage on 04-20-2008 at14:58:

I would, but I can't as I haven't done all the pilgrimages Frown

Posted by bobalob57 on 04-20-2008 at15:41:

just wondering, im not sure if this has been asked yet, bet do we no a date for when this patch is going live yet?
also in the second act will the other races get additionel racial traits, like the races on the second french server?