Official Blood Wars Board | Print: Should the 1 min wait between sending messages be removed

Posted by DemonDude on 07-19-2008 at22:25:

RE: Should the 1 min wait between sending messages be removed

I dont think so!!

I said no, people will start to use the thing like crazy and to many messages will create more lag, even if the max is lowered, more being sent is worse!!!

If there is going to be lag, id rather it be for a kewl effect or somthing else!!!

Posted by Serafine on 07-20-2008 at00:07:

Well if it is going to be lowered for Clan Leaders, then it should include Deputies also as they spend as much time talking with other clans, mercs etc.

I voted for Prem players. That way won't create much extra server load and is another lure for ppl to go Prem.

But in saying that it would be nice to see it abolished for everyone.

Posted by Artoir. on 07-20-2008 at01:14:

definitly for premium at least, even if it was reduced to 30 secs

Posted by Evangelion on 07-20-2008 at01:25:

I voted for no. Right now the message system doesn't generate much lags. If there was no limit then even one player could cause extreme lags by massively clicking the refresh button and I'm sure there are people like that, it cannot be helped.

Posted by Lysandra on 07-20-2008 at01:28:

I would love a shorter lag time between messages, but if everyone had it I think it would slow down the server so it should be one of those things you need premium for. Either that or have it be just for leaders and deputies as we tend to get and send more messages.

Posted by Azz420 on 07-20-2008 at04:22:

quote:

Originally posted by Evangelion
I voted for no. Right now the message system doesn't generate much lags. If there was no limit then even one player could cause extreme lags by massively clicking the refresh button and I'm sure there are people like that, it cannot be helped.

why does everything come down to lag ???
other games seem to function just fine without a timer
infact the timer is causing as much lag as sending messages

and what happens of you keep clicking the refresh button ????

Posted by Zizu on 07-20-2008 at10:32:

if u hit refresh button it will send another message, which is a copy of last one. Easy way to make uber spam, lets say for top1 xD 300 messages per minute ? xD

Posted by Azz420 on 07-20-2008 at10:38:

i would have thought you would have been banned after say 5 refreshes
not allowed to keep posting :/
im sure there are ways to stop spamming ???
look at the reports for swearing and abuse
they are right down recently
it just needs the right policing

Posted by Artoir. on 07-20-2008 at16:54:

Then what about reducing the limit as i said Evan?

Posted by Nhan Ho on 07-20-2008 at17:15:

I say......
YES!!!OTHERS, NO WAY! so...YES!!!
its annoying waiting for a min.... Pleased

don't I think people won't be Mr.Spamalot

Posted by Raxis on 07-21-2008 at01:40:

Hang on. That's right, the timer does create as much lag... however I believe maybe Thirty seconds would be fine, cos I find after I have written the note usually I have about twenty seconds left

Posted by Artoir. on 07-21-2008 at01:46:

Azz would u agree to a 30 secs compromise?

I get the feeling the mods are going stick by their spam argument, reducing the time to 30 secs would improve your situation and still stop people from spamming

Posted by Evangelion on 07-21-2008 at10:57:

quote:

Originally posted by Nhan Ho
don't I think people won't be Mr.Spamalot

What about people who violate the game rules with premeditation and get caught? They would be angry and try to ruin the other players' game.

Posted by Nhan Ho on 07-21-2008 at11:25:

quote:

Originally posted by Artoir.
Azz would u agree to a 30 secs compromise?

I get the feeling the mods are going stick by their spam argument, reducing the time to 30 secs would improve your situation and still stop people from spamming

Great I love 30secs, Evan maybe your right, but sometimes its annoying waiting for a minute, 30secs would be great!!!

and if they do you know violate or something stuff, you get the idea...wham bam thing, forgot whats its called tho

Posted by Azz420 on 07-21-2008 at11:42:

Hey its not just for me
but 30 seconds is better than 1 min Tongue

Posted by Artoir. on 07-21-2008 at15:30:

I know but as the threadstarter, credit is due

So Evan, what about 30 secs as opposed to 1min? Everyone wins Smile

Posted by AudatiousTitan on 07-21-2008 at18:09:

yea 30 seconds sounds like a good compromise

Posted by Kleks on 07-21-2008 at22:30:

i've voted yes for premmy users but true that clan leaders/deputys each day are basicly flooded by msgs (can't argue with that) so lowering the timer to 30 seconds will greatly ease the tensions and the ammount of frustration betwean sending one msg and getting 2 or 3 more that has to be answered.

So please lower the limit to 30 sec Smile

and if someone say "let they use irc"

let me say this way ;]

try to persuade 30 players to use irc each day just to communicate with each other. It'll work for a 2 or 3 days after that -> msg box = 30+ msgs -.-

Posted by Szeszej on 07-22-2008 at09:34:

Sorry, but if we removed/shortened the time it'd be too easy for spammers. I don't think you want your pm boxes full of "buy V 1 a Gr A" Wink

Posted by Azz420 on 07-22-2008 at09:48:

quote:

Originally posted by Szeszej
Sorry, but if we removed/shortened the time it'd be too easy for spammers. I don't think you want your pm boxes full of "buy V 1 a Gr A" Wink

this isnt email why would anyone send mails like that ????
pathetic response i expect more than just BS from you lot
add an ignore button/page
take 1 second off the timer every lvl we get (so by lvl 60 there is no timer)
do something dont just palm us off with some worthless spiel Frown

all the timer does is discriminate against the real players
and im sure they out number the spammers 5000-1
so by keeping the timer you are supporting a minority
and punishing the rest of the gamers who have done nothing wrong Frown

and this is just hypothetical spammers
no one knows if people will start to abuse messaging if it was changed
as you wont even consider giving it a trial run ????

Posted by Raxis on 07-22-2008 at11:28:

I understand what you mean Szeszjez but I doubt it'd happen.

The biggest problem is for a clan leader who has to correlate to ten maybe fifteen people all at once... they have to wait that long to do it...

How about another suggestion, Clan Leaders and deputies don't have the timer IF they respond to a message from a clan member

Posted by DemonDude on 07-22-2008 at11:55:

Na, that adds more questions to the system!!

Just lower it to 30 for leaders and deputies =]

Posted by Mortis on 07-22-2008 at12:24:

quote:

Originally posted by Szeszej
Sorry, but if we removed/shortened the time it'd be too easy for spammers. I don't think you want your pm boxes full of "buy V 1 a Gr A" Wink

Give it a trial and we will see. If other games can have no problem with this why not this one?

Posted by Nhan Ho on 07-22-2008 at12:25:

@Szeszej:
Look at the poll, Mostly people said yes, so almost everyone don't mind

I don't mind my mail full of emails, coz its fun reading them Smile

but some people ain't like me tho Tongue

but its annoying waiting...
so basically I like my mails full Tongue

look, even some people are agreeing Smile

Posted by Serafine on 07-22-2008 at12:46:

An ignore option for spammers would solve that. You will get some ppl that will spam purely to get banned. But I doubt anyone would be sad enough to send spam like that just for the sake of it (that said, there is always someone dumb enough)

Hell I already get message titles like that, weird sense of humour my mate has lol.

As a Deputy when I am organising a siege I have to send about an extra 5-10 messages to a different clan. Then deal with inter clan messages. Some days are quiet but most days I have 2 or 3 new messages waiting before I finish answering one. (gets worse after we get PoH, sending expo details, armour details etc etc and as someone already pointed out, using IRC is not always an option. I can't force ppl to download software they don't want to.)

Posted by Azz420 on 07-22-2008 at12:59:

leave the 1 minute timer on until player has reached lvl 10-20
or if they get reported for spam then they get an extra minute added to timer or banned from sending messages for a few days.

there are many ways to reduce spam without penalising the true players

i think developers are just too lazy to take any responsibility for their game
i mean thats the 1st we have heard from Szeszej i like a month or more ????
been on holiday much???

Posted by Artoir. on 07-22-2008 at15:00:

quote:

Originally posted by Azz420
i think developers are just too lazy to take any responsibility for their game
i mean thats the 1st we have heard from Szeszej i like a month or more ????
been on holiday much???

To be fair Azz they probably have all been spending their time on 1.1, but I have to agree that answer was nothing more than a quick way to dispel an idea that would cause too much hassle for you guys to implement, even though you can spend time thinking up ideas such as security pic for expo pages.

Why not give it a trial? Forget levels, etc. If there's very little or no spam when the timer is 1 min, people arent going to be encouraged if they still have to wait a period of time to spam.

And if they are, people can report them and they can get a ban.

It's really not a humungous change to the game guys?