Official Blood Wars Board | Print: Shortening Deluxe

Posted by lightboy on 09-16-2012 at11:30:

Shortening Deluxe

Makes quests and ambushes 50% shorter compared to regular shortening.

Could be applied on top of shortening (to buy it you need to buy shortening first.) Same price as shortening.

Posted by FlashAOD on 09-16-2012 at11:31:

What is with you trying to get everything "Deluxe" and get things shorter and better.

If you dont the time to put in then its not the devs fault.

Posted by lightboy on 09-16-2012 at11:37:

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Originally posted by FlashAOD
What is with you trying to get everything "Deluxe" and get things shorter and better.

If you dont the time to put in then its not the devs fault.

This is a thread with a new suggestion, for me it improves the game and for the developers it improves the amount of money they get from me Big Grin

If you like it or not, you can write your opinion here, explaining why you think it is good or bad. If you have any suggestion yourself fell free to create a new one. If you are just trolling around please shut up.

Posted by FlashAOD on 09-16-2012 at11:43:

All I've read in both of your topics are ME ME ME.

Put a sock in it, its getting tedious. You want the easy game by just being able to log on and hit MAX and go and still get the benefits of the game as if you where actually playing it and putting the time in.

Next you'll want an auto attacker and somebody to log on for you..

This game will eventually be a "I've got more money than you i can afford to do this better & quicker"

Posted by lightboy on 09-16-2012 at11:47:

Good thing this is not something for you to decide Big Grin

Posted by Paranoia on 09-16-2012 at14:51:

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Originally posted by lightboy
Good thing this is not something for you to decide Big Grin

it might not be "his to decide" but he has a very good point...

This game is NOT PAY TO WIN.... you earn it with time and effort.

you want to win but dont want to work as hard as everyone else, so no I really think its a stupid idea.

Usually I find it difficult to agree with Flash on anything so this isnt a "mod thing" so I wouldnt treat it as such.

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Originally posted by FlashAOD
All I've read in both of your topics are ME ME ME.

Put a sock in it, its getting tedious. You want the easy game by just being able to log on and hit MAX and go and still get the benefits of the game as if you where actually playing it and putting the time in.

Next you'll want an auto attacker and somebody to log on for you..

This game will eventually be a "I've got more money than you i can afford to do this better & quicker"

Nail on head.

Posted by lightboy on 09-16-2012 at17:00:

I never ask to pay for win, as you like to do. I never ask to have more chances to win, more chances to have more and better drops, etc. as you do.

I only think about what things I'd like to see, things that in my opinion (I might be wrong but it is just my opinion) I would like to see in the game. Developers want to have people staying and coming to BW, as well as people paying for premium and premium options. And I think my ideas could help a bit, but anyway it is his decision.

For me, one of the most boring times in BW is when I have to quest, being more than 4 hours everyday doing pilgrims is really boring. That's why my suggestion goes in the way to do that boring time shorter. I hope that even you and FlashAOD can get it with this explanation, but if you don't I really don't care, as this is a thread I have created so developers can read it and then do whatever they consider is better for the game.

If they ever do what you usually suggest (paying to get more drops, etc) that would ruin the game, as that is cheats for money. I can understand that you like that, as it seems it is the only way for you to improve, and I respect that, but I don't agree. Thanks god BW developers are way smarter than that.

Posted by Firetrap on 09-16-2012 at21:06:

If you don't like 4 hours of pilg there's 2 other quests that are alot shorter

Pilgs take longer as the payout is potentially better

This is just another bad idea to help yourself

Posted by lightboy on 09-16-2012 at22:10:

Shortening is not my idea, it comes from the developers, if you don't like it open a new thread and tell the developers that what they did "is just another bad idea" and that they should listen to you and the other 2 trolls and remove it.

Meanwhile developers can evaluate if there is room for a shortening deluxe or not.

Posted by Cheese!!!!!!!!! :D on 09-16-2012 at22:38:

Shortening is not your idea, no, but Shortening Deluxe is O.o Shortening is enough, how can you shorten the Shortening option? O.o

Nobody here said that shortening option is a bad idea, they're saying your idea is bad and seems to be about you :L Where did anyone, other than yourself, say that shortening option is a bad idea? It's a great idea and should stay the way it is. O.o Why change it?

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Originally posted by lightboy
I only think about what things I'd like to see, things that in my opinion (I might be wrong but it is just my opinion) I would like to see in the game.

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
This is a thread with a new suggestion, for me it improves the game and for the developers it improves the amount of money they get from me Big Grin

I kinda agree with Flash's first post :p Me me me me me..

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
If they ever do what you usually suggest (paying to get more drops, etc) that would ruin the game, as that is cheats for money.

I don't recall anyone mentioning paying for more drops and stuff, that idea is retarded and unnecessary, like Shortening Deluxe O.o

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Originally posted by lightboy
blah blah ignorance towards logical and rational thinking blah blah me me blah blah making things up and changing what people said O.o blah

^For me, that sums up most of what you've posted.. :/ Only some of what you've posted makes some sense in my opinion.

Of course, you're probably just gonna blank that opinion too. O.o

Posted by Paranoia on 09-16-2012 at23:35:

You harp on about your opinion lightboy and then refuse to listen to other peoples calling them "trolls"... if everyone that disagreed with you was a troll I'd need a bigger damn bridge.

The only one mentioning "pay to win" is you just indirectly.

"oh woe is me I want all the payout from a pilgrimage but I dont want it to take as long".

You only get in life what you have the patience to achieve, this game is alot like that.

If you dont want to earn your potential pilgrimage drops then you dont deserve them.

end of discussion.

EDIT to destroy your previous argument:

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Originally posted by lightboy
I never ask to pay for win, as you like to do. I never ask to have more chances to win, more chances to have more and better drops, etc. as you do.

When have I ever asked for more drops or a higher chance to win by paying for it, In the last post that was sarcasm about what you would be asking for next, and I wasnt far off.

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
I only think about what things I'd like to see, things that in my opinion (I might be wrong but it is just my opinion) I would like to see in the game. Developers want to have people staying and coming to BW, as well as people paying for premium and premium options. And I think my ideas could help a bit, but anyway it is his decision.

If we all only thought about things we would like to see, and not things for the server, then the top 50 would be missing a few snipers.

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
For me, one of the most boring times in BW is when I have to quest, being more than 4 hours everyday doing pilgrims is really boring. That's why my suggestion goes in the way to do that boring time shorter. I hope that even you and FlashAOD can get it with this explanation, but if you don't I really don't care, as this is a thread I have created so developers can read it and then do whatever they consider is better for the game.

Bloodwars is a game that can be played in the background whilst doing something else, I personally play Diablo 3 or make use of my time questing elsewhere. Just because you sit and stare at the timer ticking down because you lack common sense, is not our problem and does not need to be rectified by the devs.

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
If they ever do what you usually suggest (paying to get more drops, etc) that would ruin the game, as that is cheats for money. I can understand that you like that, as it seems it is the only way for you to improve, and I respect that, but I don't agree. Thanks god BW developers are way smarter than that.

Again I have never suggested paying for more drops and I also see:

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as it seems it is the only way for you to improve

as a personal attack on me and I, Unlike you, dont cry to others to fix my merge routes so I can stay on par with the players around me so I can climb the rankings.

You want to play an easy game I recommend happy fairy pony land adventures 3D as that seems to be a game on your intellectual level.

You do not personally attack me and assume I wont take any notice.

Your ideas are stupid and biased to idiots that want every thing for free without working for it. You are the BW equivalent of a child with a trust fund that assumes he is ENTITLED to everything but that is not the case.

Posted by lightboy on 09-17-2012 at04:04:

Thanks guys for your kind words Smile

As I already said:

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Originally posted by lightboy
Good thing this is not something for you to decide Big Grin

Posted by FlashAOD on 09-17-2012 at08:54:

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. And you call us trolls..

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Bloodwars is a game that can be played in the background whilst doing something else, I personally play Diablo 3 or make use of my time questing elsewhere. Just because you sit and stare at the timer ticking down because you lack common sense, is not our problem and does not need to be rectified by the devs.

He's right. I also use this as a secondary game now. If you use this as your sole game in life your going to get angry when nobody likes your ideas of rich people for a better game.

Posted by lightboy on 09-17-2012 at10:20:

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
Good thing this is not something for you to decide Big Grin

Posted by Paranoia on 09-17-2012 at11:33:

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Originally posted by lightboy

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
Good thing this is not something for you to decide Big Grin

And this is the reason you will always lose a debate. When things start going south you just keep repeating yourself over and over like a 5 year old.

Repeating the same thing doesn't get your point across, it just makes you look like a child.

Posted by lightboy on 09-17-2012 at12:14:

I know para, you already said it in a different thread, that you'd like to pay more money to have better drops, more chances to pass, etc. but as I have already told you a few times I don't like cheating for money as you do. I have made a suggestion to the developers, if you don't like it fine, but I don't care.

Posted by Mortis on 09-17-2012 at15:48:

Guys, try to keep the personal attacks away otherwise I will close it and hand out some warnings.

Posted by Paranoia on 09-17-2012 at15:51:

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
I know para, you already said it in a different thread, that you'd like to pay more money to have better drops, more chances to pass, etc. but as I have already told you a few times I don't like cheating for money as you do. I have made a suggestion to the developers, if you don't like it fine, but I don't care.

what exactly is your fascination with taking sarcasm as fact?

you dont like "cheating for money" and yet thats what you are trying to push on the devs.

ill even go quote the thread where i said that:

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Originally posted by Paranoia
its not designed to be like questing one by one.

it is designed to improve your caravanning of quests which it does.

You only get out of a game what you put in.... this feature lets you put less in than a person that does them 1 by 1 and get slightly less out unlike a normal caravan that you put slightly less in and get hardly anything out.

and if you want to go the "I pay for it therefore I want it like this" route I'd happily pay the same for a "single quest deluxe":

150% increased chance of success
150% increased drops
150% increase on arcana used for quests. /sarcasm

next you will be asking for "attack button deluxe = It makes your attack button green"

Or "expo deluxe = Click to instantly kill the mob"

how about "Login deluxe = automatically logs in and plays the damn game for you"

your argument is flawed, and yes I do realise it is your opinion but, as I have said many times and yet you still choose to ignore, its not your opinion that matters. One person wont change a damn thing, that takes the masses, and you sir are not the masses, you are a tiny voice of one person that is so narrow minded that he wont even listen to another persons opinion whilst trying to push his own on others.

Posted by lightboy on 09-17-2012 at18:52:

It seems that I am not the only narrow minded as you call me, as some players that agree with some of my suggestions have decided to translate them to Polish and put them in the Polish forum on the game to push it. They talked to people in some Polish Moria server and some of them liked the idea, at least that's what I have been told as I don't play there nor speak Polish.

Anyway it doesn't guarantee anything, as this is not a democracy. Developers listen (or at least I hop so Wink

) what we say, but they have the final call.

Posted by DemonDude2 on 09-18-2012 at00:10:

God cant you guys just grow up and stop arguing o_O Who cares, honestly lol

My opinion on this idea is no. I think that it moves even closer to a pay to win setting, which is not what blood wars is about at all Red Face

Im all for more micro transactions for extra tid bits, silly boost, w/e as long as it wont warp core gameplay Big Grin

Now that ive put my own feelings towards this post, im now finished unless somthing new comes up (mind you thats unlikely as your al just being mean to one another!)

=D

Posted by lightboy on 09-18-2012 at05:26:

Finally someone posting just his opinion about the topic! Thanks DemonDude Smile

Posted by Hayz_M on 09-18-2012 at11:09:

Everyone that has posted here has voiced their opinion. You just don't like it cause it goes against yours.

Personally I would hate to have this in the game. It's "pay to win!" then. If you don't have time to do pilgrimages, don't do them. There's a reason I still only have easy quests done for act 3.

Not everyone has more than a couple of quid to throw at this game, it would just ensure that people with more money can progress faster/easier than the people with actual skill in the game that can't spend any more. It would turn into most other text based games.

Posted by lightboy on 09-18-2012 at15:20:

Hi Hayz_M, you can read DD post and you will realize that he is against my idea. The difference is that he is not doing any kind of personal attack, just saying he doesn't agree.

I do pilgrims, you can take a look at my stats and you will see that I do them. But your explanation makes sense, as there could be people that don't do pilgrims and would do them if they have to spend 2 hours instead of 4. They would get more exp (I wouldn't say better drops as in my experience I have had better in easy quests most of the times, but when I am sitting in Z1.)

As I said, I wouldn't win more exp as I do pilgrims and will do them (of course with the official shortening, otherwise I prefer to die Wink

) So now the develpers will think about it and they will do whatever they consider is better for them, for the game and for their customers.

Posted by Hayz_M on 09-18-2012 at16:31:

I know you do pilgrims, I never said you don't. I said if you don't have time to do them and want shortening to shorten your shortening then you shouldn't do them.

Why do you need more experience from them? You don't. It's fine the way it is you're just trying to level faster.

If someone spends 4 hours just looking at a screen waiting for a timer to tick down then of course they are going to want to slit their wrists. My advice is - Play this in the background of another game that you don't have to wait for timers. I personally play this when I am on facebook or doing something more interesting. You could even set up a caravan of 3 pilgrims at 10 mins each and go do something interesting around the house or something for half hour.. Come back every half hour to click your quests..

Posted by Tempest on 09-18-2012 at17:02:

I have decided I want deluxe deluxe..deluxe deluxe

so I can have shortened shortening
full stats for questy's & full luck & then I can be ooohhh loooksy i'm mazzzzziiinnng Cool

I'll pay a tenner for that if anyone cares Tongue

(sarcasm)

Posted by darc on 09-18-2012 at17:05:

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Originally posted by lightboy

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
Good thing this is not something for you to decide Big Grin

well really it is up to us we dont want it so they wont do it.

you board of doing quests then do an attack between them and as some one else said do a diffrent quest very simple.

it shouldnt change and is fine the way it is

Posted by lightboy on 09-18-2012 at19:50:

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Originally posted by Hayz_M
I know you do pilgrims, I never said you don't. I said if you don't have time to do them and want shortening to shorten your shortening then you shouldn't do them.

Why do you need more experience from them? You don't. It's fine the way it is you're just trying to level faster.

If someone spends 4 hours just looking at a screen waiting for a timer to tick down then of course they are going to want to slit their wrists. My advice is - Play this in the background of another game that you don't have to wait for timers. I personally play this when I am on facebook or doing something more interesting. You could even set up a caravan of 3 pilgrims at 10 mins each and go do something interesting around the house or something for half hour.. Come back every half hour to click your quests..

I have time to do them and in fact I do them, which doesn't change the fact: it is boring. And yes, I also do other things, who could be waiting all the time in front of the screen? Smile

I don't want more experience from them, what I mean is that doing pilgrims you get more experience. It is true that if my proposal ever becomes true, people that don't have the time could find it and they could do pilgrims and then get more experience than doing easy quests.

In the same way as I (and many other players) do pilgrims because we can pay for shortening, but without it we would do just easy quests. So following the reasoning you and some other people are doing, I think you should ask the developers to remove the current shortening, as the same thing applies. But if you ask me... please don't do it!!!! Wink

Posted by lightboy on 09-18-2012 at19:53:

Darc:

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Originally posted by lightboy
Anyway it doesn't guarantee anything, as this is not a democracy. Developers listen (or at least I hop so Wink

) what we say, but they have the final call.

Posted by Hayz_M on 09-18-2012 at22:38:

No because the current shortening is fine. What you want is to shorten your shortening option. I'm so tempted to put a "Yo Dawg I heard you like shortening" meme up here but I wont.

They have already added shortening to quests, that cuts 20 mins off pilgrims. What do you want? A 5 min pilgrim with a 1 min 30 sec far quest and a 50 second short quest?

You just want to progress faster and are trying to fob it off as "It wood be gud for evary1 if we cud shorten our shortening."

You're just being stupid now. Twist and change the words and make yourself look like an idiot.

Posted by lightboy on 09-19-2012 at05:23:

Please answer this question: how can I progress faster if developers ever decide to do shortening deluxe? I will do the same kind of quests (pilgrims) and the same number of them. Maybe I am missing something but I don't think so.

Posted by Hayz_M on 09-19-2012 at10:44:

You will progress faster because you can do more pilgrimages in a shorter amount of time.

Meaning you will probably do them more often or when they become available..

Posted by lightboy on 09-19-2012 at13:32:

Well, I usually do 24 pilgrims a day, so that doesn't apply to me. I would do the same and would earn the same experience, as I already explained in my previous posts.

I also said that I could understand your point as that could not be the case for other players.

And the same thing happens with the current shortening option, and in this case it affects me, as I do pilgrims because I can buy shortening, otherwise I'd do easy quests. That's why following your logic and the logic from some other players, you should ask developers to remove shortening, as it allow players to do pilgrims "more often of when they become available"

And using the same reasoning, you should also ask for premium to be removed, as people has twice the number of attacks and quests, and it allows paying players to grow faster than non-paying ones.

Posted by Hayz_M on 09-19-2012 at14:10:

Okay, again you have taken what I have said and twisted it to try and form some sort of argument.

Premium is useful. Pretty much everyone who plays regularly has it, It's like £1 for a mobile one, people that don't buy it are either new to the game and don't know if they like it yet or just don't care about having extra attacks and quests. Also the current shortening we have is good. Everyone who can buy premium has it because it is useful.

You are asking for something that has already been made better to be improved again so you don't have to waste as much of your life looking at a timer and trying to fob it off as "it will be gud 4 evary1". I'm beginning to sound like a broken record here. It's a silly idea and you're just twisting what people have said.

Posted by lightboy on 09-19-2012 at15:39:

I am just pointing out that your reasoning is wrong. You said:

"Why do you need more experience from them? You don't. It's fine the way it is you're just trying to level faster."

"You just want to progress faster and are trying to fob it off as "It wood be gud for evary1 if we cud shorten our shortening.""

"You will progress faster because you can do more pilgrimages in a shorter amount of time."

And I have explained you why I can't grow faster with my suggestion. Not to tell that I already grow fast enough Wink

Posted by Hayz_M on 09-19-2012 at16:35:

It's okay for people that are being carried by their clan. I however help the lower members of the clan I am in with their expos.

My reasoning is fine. It's the same as the other peoples here you just don't agree with it and twist the words. I'm done arguing with you. Have fun with the rest of your silly ideas. This won't be implemented because people don't want it.

Posted by darc on 09-19-2012 at19:52:

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Originally posted by lightboy
Darc:

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
Anyway it doesn't guarantee anything, as this is not a democracy. Developers listen (or at least I hop so Wink

) what we say, but they have the final call.

they do listen so why they going to waste time making something that only 1 person is going to buy

Posted by 4thtimelucky on 09-19-2012 at23:02:

the more stuff the dev put on for us to buy increase caravan chances and shortening quest even more is just gunna put bloodwars with other online games where you pay to be the best what will your next suggestion be pay for items trust me no more al pay and reep benefits i would rather play where i dont have to spend money to get better end of day not all people have the money to reep benefits meaning they will not progress well

if this game ever became "pay to be the best" game i will say now i will be one of the first to click delete character button

Posted by steco on 09-20-2012 at02:26:

RE: Shortening Deluxe

quote:

Originally posted by lightboy
Makes quests and ambushes 50% shorter compared to regular shortening.

Could be applied on top of shortening (to buy it you need to buy shortening first.) Same price as shortening.

whats the point of it? you set it and walk away from pc or any other machine anyway. deluxe is for lazy ppl or those who dont have time to do them anyway, cant see point of shortening them even more...

Posted by lightboy on 10-02-2012 at01:14:

Devs are also considering this one, thread can be closed, thatks all of you for your feedback Wink