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Posted by minshres on 01-21-2009 at21:13:
hehehe.. nice going
can wait for the result. we should make a poll on who might win
Posted by Evangelion on 01-21-2009 at21:17:
Poll added
And I'll keep this thread up to date by editing the first post and adding siege reports
Posted by minshres on 01-21-2009 at21:20:
that was quick. ok lets vote
but isnt it a abit unfair? there is like 2k point difference :/
Posted by Evangelion on 01-21-2009 at21:26:
Well, it'll be a shame for them to win with us 7 times and it will be a glory for us to defeat them with 4 victories
Posted by minshres on 01-21-2009 at21:36:
RE: Declaration of War
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Originally posted by Cthulhu
The Source vrs V13
3) Mercs will be allowed into the clans, but no-one who is in the top 20 of the rankings (sorry guys & gals, but it could create uneven advantages).
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does this apply only for merc or the members of the clan in the top 20?
Posted by Nayrlien on 01-21-2009 at21:42:
Mercs Only, We thought it would make it a little unbalanced if you got any of the big hitters in as mercs. Anyone who is normally affiliated with the source from the top 20 is more than welcome to help them out though.
Posted by minshres on 01-21-2009 at21:55:
so if i joined source what would i be considered as? merc or affiliated with source part?
Posted by DemonDude2 on 01-21-2009 at22:03:
I voted for V13!! I dont no either clan in much detail, but i do V13 has natedogg and few more good rangers!!
Cant wait to see the results too!! Great idea, but its even better that yous are going through with it!! =D
Posted by Helldemon on 01-21-2009 at22:05:
I'd say affiliated, but then it would turn into a db-bos war if we don't have a certain limit as were affiliated with bos and the source with db and this is for clan pride mainly not who are allies are
Posted by Nayrlien on 01-21-2009 at22:06:
A merc i would have said. Cthulhu and Evan know who has been affiliated to them in the past, so i guess it would be up to them to invite those people to help if they choose to.
The idea of this "war" was just to have a little fun, thats why me & Cthulhu decided on the no top 20 merc thing, as then it starts getting a little too serious.
Obviously not everyone from each clan will join all the sieges, people may be away, or have POH they don't want to risk. So it's anyone's guess as to who will win, After the first siege, if someone gets POH, they may feel that they want to skip the next 2 sieges to spend their points, that gives the other clan a chance to win as they may well have the stronger side. It should even itself out i think.
Posted by minshres on 01-21-2009 at22:12:
ok, then i guess i am not allowed.
WELL GET IN THEIR SOURCE
ALL MY SUPPORT IS TO YOUR GUYS AND GIRLS
@ Nayrlien
there used to siege between BC and source. both the clan used to go all out even when they had poh most of the time. so dont expect source to back down jus cause they have poh. this is war part of fun. poh can be earned but a loss is a loss. hehehe
Posted by Nayrlien on 01-21-2009 at22:22:
I totally agree mate, and will be in every single siege wether i have POH or not, But some people play the game for POH, just so they can get more points and progress up the rankings faster, nothing wrong with that, so they may opt out of a couple of sieges...But hopefully not :-)
Posted by Evangelion on 01-21-2009 at22:58:
Well, from the current top 20 only minshres would be accepted as original Source member. Llianna was with us too but she has left a loooong time ago while minshres visited us and stayed with us longer than several expos several times
Posted by Nayrlien on 01-21-2009 at23:07:
In that case i stand corrected
, Affiliate not merc :-) It's up to you and Cthulhu who joins on your side, so i guess Minshres would be a legitimate top 20 merc
Posted by Cthulhu on 01-22-2009 at00:10:
Wow - I can't believe this thread made a poll... awesome.
@Minshres - don't you worry, we will never back down, never surrender! Waaaaar!
The Source are born again hard, baby! Frosty to the core...
Posted by Artoir. on 01-22-2009 at00:19:
War has no rules
Posted by nemoralis on 01-22-2009 at01:27:
Argh Source were my first clan and now i'm in V13-this is complicated
Posted by joshk on 01-22-2009 at08:44:
I stay loyal to Vault 13 even though im no longer there
Posted by Cthulhu on 01-22-2009 at08:53:
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Originally posted by Artoir.
War has no rules
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Suggested reading -
Six Secret Strategic Teachings - Jiang Ziya
The Methods of the Ssu-ma
The Art of War - Sun-tzu
Three Strategies - Huang Shih-kung
On War - Carl von Clausewitz
War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy
The 33 Strategies of War - Robert Greene
Arthashastra - Kautilya & Visnugupta
Maybe not "rules" but definite "guidelines".
I'm still on the first chapter of the first book...... NoOb War Monger!
Or to quote someone Diablo & a few other's will recognise:-
"I am a sexy, shoeless God of War!!!"
Posted by diablo on 01-22-2009 at09:15:
I want to participate!!!!
Well, looks like I'm not allowed.
Go V13 go go go!
Posted by Paranoia on 01-22-2009 at09:32:
V13 all the way
i may come lend a hand.... fancy a decent ranger at some point lads?
Posted by Artoir. on 01-22-2009 at12:46:
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1) Each siege is open to all members of the Source & V13.
2) Each siege will be for resources - no square take overs.
3) Mercs will be allowed into the clans, but no-one who is in the top 20 of the rankings (sorry guys & gals, but it could create uneven advantages).
4) There will be no "leveling out" of the siege by either side. The number (or
point totals) of the people in the siege will be dependent on how much the clans
want to win.
5) There will not be organized "farming" of any clan members, by either of the
clans involved or allied parties. This is war, but it is an amicable experiment
to try & promote a new aspect of fun in the game.
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These are pre agreed rules between two opposing sides. Hardly the same as Sun-tzu's Art of War
Posted by DemonDude2 on 01-22-2009 at13:28:
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Originally posted by Artoir.
These are pre agreed rules between two opposing sides. Hardly the same as Sun-tzu's Art of War |
If u had ever read the book, youd no that he talks about weaknesses in preplanned agreements to battle, knowing who will and who wont honor the agreements made!! Ive only read the start, but even that is a great read!!
Posted by Evangelion on 01-22-2009 at13:55:
Well, breaking the rules will result in loosing the war
Posted by DemonDude2 on 01-22-2009 at16:04:
thats a good idea!!
Who decides if the rule was broken?
i.e. v13 take a merc in that they think is long term member, but source dosnt? Or vice-versa??
You could gather your teams before hand, Send out messages to all the people you think of as home players, then start??
Just to compleatly take out the top 20 merc thing!!
Posted by HamsterGod on 01-22-2009 at21:22:
Personally looking forward to the reports but I just hope it is something worth seeing and not a massacre from either side :-D
Posted by Evangelion on 01-22-2009 at23:06:
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Originally posted by DemonDude2
thats a good idea!!
Who decides if the rule was broken?
i.e. v13 take a merc in that they think is long term member, but source dosnt? Or vice-versa??
You could gather your teams before hand, Send out messages to all the people you think of as home players, then start??
Just to compleatly take out the top 20 merc thing!! |
I'm taking the current state as the official V13 team so that means two players from top 20 in V13.
In Source it's minshres only, but only if he wants to. He's not obligated to help us
Posted by Helldemon on 01-22-2009 at23:49:
Kobruk's coming back over as his v13 and was only swapping with Ermantil for a bit, but their's no one else in the top 20 who is
Posted by Hespera on 01-23-2009 at05:56:
I'm Looking forward to seeing The Source kick the crap out of V13
Posted by Evangelion on 01-23-2009 at06:23:
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Originally posted by Helldemon
Kobruk's coming back over as his v13 and was only swapping with Ermantil for a bit, but their's no one else in the top 20 who is |
So I guess we're at an even greater disadvantage...
Looking at Kobruk's profile...
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Brotherhood of Steel and V13, Now and Always!
[BoS] |
He seems to be swapping between BoS and V13 pretty often.
Posted by Cthulhu on 01-23-2009 at14:21:
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Originally posted by Hespera
I'm Looking forward to seeing The Source kick the crap out of V13
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Yeah!! That's more like the sort of responses I wanted to see on this post.
As to messages regarding people in the sieges, blah, blah, blah - the whole point of this war was mutual fun & a change from the usual "organised" sieges, so let's keep it that way.
I trust that the leaders of our clan's will use their sensible & fair judgement in stating who is a regular member of their clan, & who is a merc.
We are The Source. We may be the underdogs (according to the poll), but we're gonna pull out V13's vampire teeth, put 'em on a string & present them to the prettiest mutant we meet in the Hatchery.
Posted by tatiana on 01-23-2009 at16:53:
Kobruk switched in V13 in the same time i did, Nate and MMG. So HE is with V13. Still it's true that sometimes we swap on BOS to help etc. but i think V13 is our main home.
Posted by kobruk on 01-23-2009 at18:18:
ooohh, I'm being debated
I've been in V13 for much more time in the last 9 months or so than I have in BoS. I split my time supporting both of our clans but BoS hardly need my help too much, lol.
I'm all for a 'fair' war ???? as if such a thing exists, but in the interests of fair play and the spirit that this was intended I am prepared to sit it out if Source are scared, muahahaha
Posted by Evangelion on 01-23-2009 at18:22:
Well, it's your will to join the war, not ours
Posted by Scyanide on 01-23-2009 at23:41:
you have my support Source :-) i am with you folks :-)
Posted by Raxis on 01-24-2009 at03:31:
I want to see a good war. Hell I may come and join one side at soome point in the future.... I think we need more war. but that's my opinion. Everyone is entitled to theirs
Still I think my money is on the source
Posted by AudatiousTitan on 01-24-2009 at04:46:
I have been campainging for fwar for agesssss, so i think il make my way over to source
if evan will take me
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