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Posted by Pops on 12-15-2014 at18:55:

  Lightness of being question

Does this effect still work if you have maximum easiness?

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Posted by Szeszej on 12-15-2014 at21:24:

 

Official answer pending

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Posted by theheraldofogc on 12-16-2014 at00:24:

 

I just expected a short-to-medium term boost.

If this DOES add to max easiness, it just became amazing!

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Posted by darc on 12-16-2014 at02:00:

 

yeah otherwise it will be quite pointless

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Posted by theheraldofogc on 12-16-2014 at02:13:

 

I wouldn't call it pointless.

Level 115 for max easiness (unless you're an Absorber and/or Demon Lord).

Getting through 7 levels at the high end is painful O.o

I maxed it immediately. I had upgraded armour without being careful of Strength requirements (didn't check it without my Titanium set equipped). Since I was saving up points for Might I had them to spare and sorted out my screw up instantly :p

It's really going to help my lower level character on Moria III. Even as a Demon Lord I'm struggling with level caps on fully affixed items O.o

So I can happily see the advantage of it without the past-max boost.

WITH the past-max boost this becomes amazing though

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Posted by dooz on 12-16-2014 at06:24:

 

Lightness of being does not increase max easiness. Bought level 1 to test it.
But still its far from useless. Many players don't have max easiness

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Posted by Szeszej on 12-16-2014 at08:00:

 

quote:

Originally posted by dooz Lightness of being does not increase max easiness.

Damn, dooz was first .

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Posted by darc on 12-16-2014 at12:05:

 

so make it easier for other races to have more absorbers racial bonues then totally pointless evo

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Posted by theheraldofogc on 12-16-2014 at15:03:

 

Getting an advantage over other players seema fine to me Darc.

Especially given that both my characters can get good use out of this.

It's pointless if you're already level 115, but incase you can't cout that's 114 more levels than what you start as.

No one is making you use it. But plenty of people WILL be.

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Posted by darc on 12-16-2014 at15:30:

 

you all got easniess with act 2 patch now you get an evo to do the same. if absorbers got to go over the max then that would be fine butbwe dont so every race gain except absorbers. might as well give you pob aswell. a evo is ment to help all races not help all but one.

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Posted by theheraldofogc on 12-16-2014 at15:38:

 

An Absorber Demon Lord with full evo hits max easiness at Level 88.

That is a MASSIVE advantage over other players.

Getting max easiness before everyone else isn't a disadvantage. Especially since levelling takes longer each step up.

You have better access to equipment and easier square building before a lot of other people do. It's a head start that could impact YEARS of play time compared to a similar player.

EDIT: I'm out by 5% here. The Evo is even more relevant to Absorber than I thought.

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Posted by dooz on 12-16-2014 at16:04:

 

Eh, absorbers can buy this evo as well you know. Reaching max easiness even sooner. I don't see how this devaluate absorber racial bonus at all.

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Posted by darc on 12-16-2014 at16:06:

 

because we lose it its ment to be something we have as a race. not something we gaines thru items and patchs and evos

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Posted by dooz on 12-16-2014 at16:13:

 

Eh, ok. But you can gain luck and blood points from evo as well
And hp those are racial bonuses as well.
There is no loss of advantage. You can buy same evo as non absorber and still have same advantage

By your logic any evo that gives hp, bp, easiness and luck should not exist.
Also if you think your race is weakend by this you can always turn cursed one

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Posted by darc on 12-16-2014 at16:26:

 

but absorbers should still have that extra 5% over and above what you can get.

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Posted by Yowie on 12-16-2014 at16:38:

 

quote:

Originally posted by darc but absorbers should still have that extra 5% over and above what you can get.

i dont see a reason why would they. 5% from the start for free is massive advantage. Also other racial bonuses like 10% hp/bp. Very nice arcanas for ambushes and great arcana with luck & crit.
Really the worst tattoo ever...

And nobody is getting any easiness for free, you know you have to pay for it 1500 evo pts for max one. Points you could spend on something more useful
And easiness is not that special only for absorber as you can get it from DL and monk tattoos too...

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Posted by darc on 12-16-2014 at16:56:

 

so you happy to give up the luck you get at start of game then. or your +10%hp yes

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Posted by Yowie on 12-16-2014 at17:03:

 

quote:

Originally posted by darc so you happy to give up the luck you get at start of game then. or your +10%hp yes

5 luck alone is almost nothing, same as +10% BP but you can get them through evos anyway so go get them and enjoy

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Posted by darc on 12-16-2014 at17:31:

 

but even with evos you still get that on top of them absorbers don't

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Posted by alyat on 12-16-2014 at18:01:

 

Hmmm
I dont see the point

There will be no difference if everyone learned that evo

And i still think that the holy cow (absorber) are best variable race with strongest arcanas

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Posted by FlashAOD on 12-16-2014 at18:25:

 

quote:

Originally posted by darc but even with evos you still get that on top of them absorbers don't

Go complain about the Demon Lord & Monk tattoo's as well they give easiness.. Go and complain about the Of Easiness suffix as well.. They are all extra to what Absorbers get and everybody gets a maximum limit anyway.

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Posted by dooz on 12-16-2014 at18:43:

 

quote:

Originally posted by darc but even with evos you still get that on top of them absorbers don't

Level for max easiness(50%) 115
Absorber 110
Non-absorber demon lord 105
Absorber demon lord 100
Non-absorber demon lord with level 4 evo 98
Absorber demon lord with evo 93

I still don't see why you are complaining, other than for the sake of complaining.

IF anything absorber should lose some of their racial benefits, but obviously they gradually do from level 110-115

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Posted by darc on 12-16-2014 at19:38:

 

well shouldnt every race lose some of there benefits then. you pick a race based on a few things and one of them is there racial benefits.so you ahouldnt lose any of them just coz you are progressing in the game

tattoos can be changed evos you can get them all but race your stuck with so the bonus should always remain even if it goes above the limt

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Posted by dooz on 12-16-2014 at20:16:

 

Eh, well. That have nothing to do with new evo.

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Posted by theheraldofogc on 12-16-2014 at21:53:

 

Darc...

That is the dumbest thing I've heard today, and I've been arguing on YouTube comments.

Absorber is arguably the best tattoo, and that 5% is a head start the tattoo gets over everyone else.

A. Head. Start.

You get to be ahead of everyone else, until the late game.

It's a bonus you have that no one else does.

You have OTHER long term advantages.

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Posted by darc on 12-16-2014 at22:41:

 

dumbest thing ive heard is calling absorber a tattoo and not a race

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Posted by theheraldofogc on 12-17-2014 at00:10:

 

Replying on phones while using public transport CAN lead to the occasional mistake.

What's your excuse? :p

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Posted by Ba_al on 12-17-2014 at03:17:

 

quote:

Originally posted by dooz Eh, well. That have nothing to do with new evo.

exactly your racial bonus has nothign to do with this evo

imo this is great for mid-semi high lvl players strugglign to get that extraa point in strenght or knowledge etc for there set ups

not every evo has to be benifiting all..you choose your evos on ur play style and "customize ur char accordingly with them"

every lvl 115 player who dosnt benfiit from this tatoo isnt complaining..im not complaining
this is geared towards the lower lvls agreed but so what..

@ darc you need create new thread for ur racial issue