Official Blood Wars Board | Print: Game need some changes if u ask me

Posted by OMGitsALex on 12-21-2015 at10:14:

Game need some changes if u ask me

Im playing bw since 2009.

in the last year or so ive seen:

Vlade ranged -> gunner
Broodje ranged -> gunner
Bosh 1h melle -> gunner
Myrkul 1h melle -> gunner

I've also seen:
Ba_al ranged -> Deleted
DraGan 2h melle -> Quit
Anubis 1h melle -> Quit
Horst 1h melle -> Quit
Raoul 2h melle -> Inactive
Icecream 2h melle -> logs when i ask him on facebook

Now lately everybody wants to change to gunner or sniper and there are several reasons u would do that.
1. U only need 1 set for everything (pvp , koh, expos)
2. U can get best wep fast and easy to p5 (none have prefix , suffix and u can merge them up easy)

ranged? well use used to hit with suriken ... than.. we changed for hxbow cuz it was the best.. than what ? u need taxe, ofc with elvish cape cuz t axe have negative crit.. now ?
well.. now we use tk of dryad for expos, t axe for pvp and maybe a hxbow for new mobs since ignore def is awsome there.

2h melle? idk ? im looking at Icecream... top player, p5 set.. hitting 300 crits with his p5 agile katana of bs.
yes... he needs a new cursed/demonic wep for this new bosses...

LAME !!!

besides this ... i do think u need to change those talismans for aborbers... they are useless.

Im writing this down cuz game lately sux... and after 6 years of bw im thinking to quit cuz its not fun anymore. (or change to sniper but that will take a year so ..no thanks !)

u can also consider this:
Joining Expos and Koths

Cheers
~Alex

Posted by MYRKUL on 12-21-2015 at11:02:

Big Grin

It's a small point, but I've been a 1h gunner since I started this game. Never been melee.

You may be thinking of my Arena Def set-up.

Posted by OMGitsALex on 12-21-2015 at12:18:

Also

Think about this... if u would have the chance to change ur race to use other arcana ? would u ?

I'd change to cultist for that searing blood and blood of life ....

Posted by Paranoia on 12-21-2015 at22:11:

Ba_al deleted because he threw a tantrum.
Horst is back.

People randomly stop playing all the time for a multitude of different reasons. Dont blame the tattoo...

A large portion of the top 25 are mellee. Alot are snipers that have been snipers for years. you can prove anything with statistics.

quote:

100% of the top 1 players is mellee

OMG MELLEE IS OP

quote:

2h melle? idk ? im looking at Icecream... top player, p5 set.. hitting 300 crits with his p5 agile katana of bs.
yes... he needs a new cursed/demonic wep for this new bosses...

You always needed cursed or demonic.. it was just difficult to get. agile is a nice placeholder until you get something better.

Same weapon but a chainsaw would make him viable for the new mobs again.

Decent enchants would too.

Nndungu with a cursed katana of bloodsucker (also top player) hitting MUCH higher.

Iv seen makavelli as a monk DESTROY the damage gunners and snipers deal as he has itemized his setup well and has slightly more than "one setup".

Posted by OMGitsALex on 12-22-2015 at07:46:

haha

Very true...

exactly what ive said...

2h melle needed Agile ... now they need Cursed or Demonic...

Ranged? Hxbow - > Taxe -> Tk of dryad ... so on ... meaning in the past year u we had to change 3 weps.. and make them all p5...

snipers ... well they just use the flame since years ago and its just fine...
gunners they play with scorpio and deagle cuz they dont have what to do with stones...

be real ... merging and upgrading a ranged wep is way harder than to make a p5 flamer.

be real... merging and upgrading a 2h melle wep... is even harder than my ranged wep....

thats not true ?
why the hell guns shouldnt have preffix and suffix and melle items should ?

where's the balanced there?

why the helll i should need taxe + elvis ds for pvp and deadly ds + tk of dryad for expo when snipers use 1 setup for all ?

thats not true ?

~Lets see how Paranoia destroys this arguments too ^^

Posted by OMGitsALex on 12-22-2015 at08:07:

quote:

Decent enchants would too.

im quite sure there are few people that do koh once at 2days since koh was availeble on server and still dont have decent enchants... to hit like maka Red Face

i suppose i havent done enough to get one... its true.. i've never been to church in the last 2-3 years...

thats BS argument from Paranoia

Posted by Scourge on 12-22-2015 at09:33:

I disagree

1h melee is awesome. Berzerker is awesome.

I'm the living proof of that combination.

And i'm not finished yet with all my gear, very far from it. And even with basic gear, i was doing absolutely fine at a level much lower than my peers.

I do agree gunners get it easy but every single game has always had options for players that like it easy, players that like it medium and players that like it hard.

Bw offers exactly the same as any other game. No game is perfectly balanced, even the big titles like WoW or Eve Online - always some current meta stronger than others.
Gunners and snipers have not always been the best.
And they definitely still are not...

Posted by OMGitsALex on 12-22-2015 at09:58:

I dont say melle is weak... i've just said its harder to get nice ultimate gear... much harder than snipers... and thats true...

Ive said 2 years ago... snipers were worst wep at that point... was true.. i was still ranged...

the thing is ... they've changed some things... and changed the game a lot...

NPV was best ranged and damager on bw... he was using hxbow with solar... everybody complained and they've changed tattos so ranged cant use solar anymore... NPV quit since then and everybody knows that.... even Paranoia ^^

i havent complained about that... ranged was OP than ... than ... ranged became shitty... and vlade changed to gunner... cuz ranged was shitty.. or in Paranioas opinion cuz he was bored of ranged , sure.

than ... instead of balancing by upgrading the hxbow.. so we can use same old wep... they've invented taxe... with negative crit even with reaction on it.. and we all made p5 taxes... and ranged was still shitty... sooo

they've brought in tk of dryak ... which yes... balanced ranged expo damage , TRUE... but we had to change wep again and merge upgrade a new p5 wep...

and after all as far as i thought ranged was ment to be more like a pvp based wep. not that good in expo/koh.. but bit better in pvp... and yet... i dont think range wins pvp (if u dont consider attcking /defending square boost)....

besides that ... since 2009 when ive started playing there were several changes to arcana also ... and best way was to give people the oportunity to change arcana as they chan change tattos...

Posted by OMGitsALex on 12-22-2015 at10:54:

and

on top of that... melle use dancing/vengefull set...

gunners use solar...

ranged use hawk

and if ur not lucky to drop or buy a straight hawk...

u can merge one with 2 x solars and 1 x insidious... lol..
or yes.. solar + arachind

this means unless ur lucky to buy directly hawk , or drop... u will need to pay twice the price a gunner pays for ur jwelery set.

besides that... idk why they even put defence requirements for gunners.. they can use any best items they want...

Posted by theheraldofogc on 12-22-2015 at19:11:

I play 4 different tattoo paths, and it's very "grass is always greener on the other side" with these complaints.

Snipers still get smeared in Ambushes. The "weaker" Ranged and 1H gun are more threatening to me.

A bit more variety on the second expo map that would have played to the strengths of others that AREN'T Snipers would have been nice, but Sniper is strongest in expeditions so whatever. That's their thing.

King of the Hill is pretty good for needing variety. As a rule Black Knight has the advantage their but their are plenty of special attacks that blow them out.

The necessary late game requirements for equipment are a huge pain...

You know what would be awesome for that?

A point where you get a guaranteed weapon. You pick effectively get a lottery win item at a high point to help with what a pain the game is.

Hit Level 150, or finish all Pilgrimages for a theoritical Act IV. Some story or achievement based reward for hammering the game when you hit a point you should have something that good (but probably don't, because that's just how the game works).

Even people with a completed set could then look trying something new. A different weapon, or start off a set.

Posted by Grizly on 12-23-2015 at11:24:

quote:

Originally posted by theheraldofogc
You know what would be awesome for that?

Few months ago, i propose, for LVL 125 + to open a new path, a new tattoo
So the highest player can use 2 tattoo, with some payments for changing, or with some weakness for a second tattoo, etc...
This will help to solve the problem with saying that other tattoo is best... you will need to prove it!

some players agree with that idea, but was never written on forum...

Posted by theheraldofogc on 12-24-2015 at14:35:

SOMETHING that helps juice up late game play, that isn't based on randomness, would be nice for top band players.

The key note is "not based on randomness".

For the tattoo idea, seems a bit odd... Using it for different weaponry would be a waste, while grabbing extra power for a weapon you already have would be really powerful, and mixing armour requirements up would be a waste. So Berzerker/Monk would be insane, Ranged would be really good again, and Black Knight would be crap :/
I would rather they added a new level gated higher levels to tattoos.

Posted by OMGitsALex on 01-04-2016 at08:29:

in the end

since i play for 5 years.. this is like a feedback to the game changes...

and yes... im used to this kind of opinions.
by the looks of it seems u all think the game is balanced and doesnt need adjustments...
by the looks of it.. u seem quite happy with the game improvments in last 5 years...

so thats it...

probably its just me .. and i dont feel that passion for the game anymore...
its not hard. i quit, start playing other game and everybody's happy no ?

Posted by Grizly on 01-05-2016 at23:24:

To say truth, I like new improvements, they are very nice, except changing ranged order (i quit because of that), and i am also agree with you that the game become more unbalanced, and now gunners have a biggest boost ...

Of course i am voting for balance adjustments ...

And of course i will vote for now for zerk improvements, for example after regain 1 HP the zerk must have also +30% dodge chances (or double dodges of what you already have)
[You regain 1 HP, and you are a craze reborned melee, so you must have some differences after that]

Posted by Pissedoffhyperion on 01-08-2016 at12:48:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizly
To say truth, I like new improvements, they are very nice, except changing ranged order (i quit because of that), and i am also agree with you that the game become more unbalanced, and now gunners have a biggest boost ...

Of course i am voting for balance adjustments ...

And of course i will vote for now for zerk improvements, for example after regain 1 HP the zerk must have also +30% dodge chances (or double dodges of what you already have)
[You regain 1 HP, and you are a craze reborned melee, so you must have some differences after that]

would make tigers set dodge kinda pointless ;p

what they could do is release the dodge cap once you have been revived(say since you have 37% dodge from a p5 tigers set, and 30% dodges in the form of enchants/evo etc).......would give you an active 67% meele dodge chance which would be awesome with 1hp Smile

Posted by FlashAOD on 01-08-2016 at13:07:

No

Posted by Grizly on 01-08-2016 at15:15:

quote:

Originally posted by Pissedoffhyperion
would make tigers set dodge kinda pointless ;p

I forgot about that, thanks for reminder Big Grin

Posted by OMGitsALex on 02-03-2016 at14:12:

big like for brainstorming...

yea.. there are things that can be made...

i like the 2nd tatto ideea... its like WOW.. u have dual specialisation.. and use one spec and items set for PVE and one other set for PVP and Arena.

its quite nice...
especially now on bw when top 10 players have full p5 late game set.. and dont need anything else..
they can build a new set of items.. for a new tatto and just use w/e they think is best..

would be quite ok for ranged.. since u can use demon lord for expos for extra damage... improving a bit.. and collector for pvp for luck and others...

prob would be tempting for others too.. since there are mobs where one or other wep is trash.

and im quite sure there are loads of other things u can do ... like.. new sets, new items, new skills,
maybe messing a bit with clans... like making a max group limit of 5 or 10 .. and groups that can ally and do big raids togheter...
clan wars and clan arena is not quite usefull atm...