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Posted by Szeszej on 12-14-2017 at07:35:

  80117; 89739

ID 80117
Char grimclash

ID 89739
Char zarkhir

Permanent ban for both.

As much as we allow trading between your own accounts, we still don't tolerate pushing - this ban is for the auctions of Legendary Good Shining Katana of the Autocrat (+3). During the auctions, you've made very high outbids (15-40%) and even outbid your own bid, thus increasing the price of the item and sending many additional stones to one of the accounts. This is not how a normal auction looks, especially when carried out by 1 person.

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Posted by Indica on 12-14-2017 at09:53:

 

it's a well known fact that large bid increases can stop a price rising higher than people constantly bidding on the same item. I would also like to address outbidding yourself too. Now you may or may not be aware but increasing your own bid outside of the last 30 seconds gives you a brief opportunity. If the other bidders connection is slow, by the time they try to bid and get error message saying increase must be a minimum of 5% and tadaa you've won an auction someone else was trying to bid on. Yes the price was high, but can you really put a price on a final merge piece for an item that you won't change again?

warning accepted for this post, +1 me

p.s. our server is dying, this doesn't help it.

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Posted by xpa on 12-14-2017 at10:15:

 

I was one of the bidders in that item and I kept going (till to high for me) cuz I wanted that item to make an agile katana of suicide. And to be honest I don't mind to bid loads of stones ( since I'd then) to get the items I want. This is true for both of my characters. It's the only way to get stuff to make what you want and improve your character.

Also sometimes I increase my bid a lot over 5% for 2 reasons to discourage the other bidders or cuz I can't be on it every second checking how it goes and I might be away when it ends.

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Posted by Szeszej on 12-14-2017 at12:50:

 

Both of you are partially right, but I'd like to stress that ban is not for the high price but by unnaturally increasing the price. Also the self-outbids were far from the last 30 seconds.

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Posted by Ba_al on 12-14-2017 at12:53:

 

yes i wanted to scare off other bidders as this was last item i needed
2 hand items are in high demand and very rare

been waiting over a year to get to this stage and wasnt going to loose the item

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Posted by Ba_al on 12-14-2017 at12:55:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Ba_al yes i wanted to scare off other bidders as this was last item i needed 2 hand items are in high demand and very rare been waiting over a year to get to this stage and wasnt going to loose the item Legendary Perfect Demonic Katana of Suicide (+5) 12 1 052 286 ( 6 / 0 / 8548 / 7342 / 2961 ) over 1 mill bs - to show you how rare and in demand these items are SZ if your 2 hand and an item comes up you need to win it or wait months for simielr to appear again

sorry for double post

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Posted by Szeszej on 12-14-2017 at13:28:

 

After exchanging some PMs, I'll shorten the ban to 7 days and cut stones from both auctions.

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Posted by Indica on 12-14-2017 at13:42:

 

That's the spirit, +1 karma point to you.

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Posted by CESARZ on 12-14-2017 at16:55:

 

What? So now if i put 5000 ms for start i can get ban?

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Posted by Szeszej on 12-14-2017 at20:28:

 

Depends, but if you have any specific questions, please PM me.