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Posted by Coles on 09-22-2007 at22:49:

Good Murderous Knife

One-handed melee weapon
Damage: 14 - 15
Effects: Hit +9, attacks per round: 2, AGILITY +8, chance for critical hit +8 %, all weapons damage +6
Requirements: LEVEL: 32, STRENGTH: 38, AGILITY: 35, INTELLIGENCE: 14, KNOWLEDGE: 14
Selling price: 23 700 Lgo
Value: Nanites 175, Mana 446

I maked two of these shiny, new knifes Smile

. It was worth it Big Grin

.

I'm very happy of this new patch and I think that it will help everyone to start a new life with tatoos.

Posted by alphonse on 09-22-2007 at22:52:

yer but not with weapons my agilty is rubbish i had 154 i have now 134 i hav egot my good cap of adreline + 5 an other stuff if the sucide weapons wauldnt of got crap i wauld of had about 167 or 174 this why i need better sucide weapon s

Posted by Coles on 09-22-2007 at22:53:

Thats because suicide was too powerful with small requirements. Im very happy that suicide is now a good weapon, not perfect for killing everyone.

Posted by L12 on 09-22-2007 at23:38:

I have +12% to exp from new tattoo, which is always on. But i have my quest suff equipped and is has a red cross over it. Do i still get exp bonus?

Posted by Elisabeth on 09-22-2007 at23:45:

Yes.

It is not worthy to make experience tattoo. After 225k(~6-10 months) experience you will get back experience that you used on this tattoo.

Posted by L12 on 09-22-2007 at23:56:

Ok thanks.

Yeah i know its not the best, but at +5 i get an exrta attack, so that is worth it... Smile

Posted by Elisabeth on 09-23-2007 at00:17:

Good Murderous Mace of Ruse (+1) CLOSE
Two-handed melee weapon
Damage: 61 - 70
Effects: Hit -26, attacks per round: 2, AGILITY +21, chance for critical hit +25 %, weapon damage +15, minimal damage +13, REPUTATION +12
Requirements: LEVEL: 51, STRENGTH: 58, INTELLIGENCE: 9, KNOWLEDGE: 9, AGILITY: 23
Selling price: 33 075 Lgo
Value: Nanites 321, Mana 875

I'm saving stones but few items need to be upgraded.

Posted by alphonse on 09-23-2007 at00:34:

a dont think u guys shauld be talking about this on this thread

Posted by Scillage on 09-23-2007 at07:20:

No i suppose it is to do with what the patch has done and stuff and what they have amde so i will allow this talk but dont get off the subject of the patch

Posted by Elisabeth on 09-23-2007 at07:47:

Black knight don't need agility.

http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=1698393&key=acd643397f

Posted by ziomal on 09-23-2007 at10:16:

why???

Kilt (+5) CLOSE

Pants (Only for males)
Defence: 5
Effects: APPEARANCE +10, AGILITY -2, LUCK +2

Posted by ziomal on 09-23-2007 at11:35:

fucking admin

Posted by Coles on 09-23-2007 at12:02:

You should be banned for this.

It was told that LUCK from items will be very small. My battle jacket also has +1 luck bonus and I don't cry...

I think that the best set for luck is this runic set. I need to find it and test it Smile

Posted by alphonse on 09-23-2007 at12:19:

ziamol why u all ways do stuff like that u all way dis respect the rules an people Mad

Posted by Zeruel on 09-23-2007 at13:17:

+2 - offensive language

Posted by alphonse on 09-23-2007 at13:30:

which disrespects the rules

Posted by diablo on 09-24-2007 at13:27:

Do we know the price of tattoos? Like,
Tatoo1, level1 - 1000 Progress points, 1xBloodstone
.
.
.
Tatoo4, level 5 - XXX

Thanks

Posted by Coles on 09-24-2007 at13:31:

Tatoo 1 - 1000 points and 1 bs
Tatoo 2 - 2000 points and 1 hs
Tatoo 3 - 3000 points and 1 ls
Tatoo 4 - 4000 points and 1 ms
Tatoo 5 - 5000 points and 1 ss

Posted by Zauborin on 09-24-2007 at13:35:

quote:

Originally posted by Coles
Tatoo 1 - 1000 points and 1 bs
Tatoo 2 - 2000 points and 1 hs
Tatoo 3 - 3000 points and 1 ls
Tatoo 4 - 4000 points and 1 ms
Tatoo 5 - 5000 points and 1 ss

this is for 1st 2 tatoo

next two is:

4500 2bs
9000 2hs
13500 2ls
18000 2ms
22500 2ss

Posted by diablo on 09-24-2007 at16:38:

thanks

Posted by cat on 10-21-2007 at12:54:

quote:

Originally posted by Zauborin

quote:

Originally posted by Coles
Tatoo 1 - 1000 points and 1 bs
Tatoo 2 - 2000 points and 1 hs
Tatoo 3 - 3000 points and 1 ls
Tatoo 4 - 4000 points and 1 ms
Tatoo 5 - 5000 points and 1 ss

this is for 1st 2 tatoo

next two is:

4500 2bs
9000 2hs
13500 2ls
18000 2ms
22500 2ss

The cost of next two, lvl 3 would be a total of 27000 experience ? no way..... Evil

any chance of lower the cost ? please Tongue

Posted by Scillage on 10-21-2007 at15:22:

What do you mean? There are only 4 tatoos in each path and the 1st 2 costs were said by coles. The 2nd 2 (no. 3 and 4) were said by zauborin

Posted by cat on 10-21-2007 at21:45:

If i want No.3 and 3rd lvl would cost me :- 4500 + 9000 + 13500 = 27000,
lvl 4 cost 31500 and lvl 5 cost 36000 Frown

how can i manage to save up that much ???

Posted by L12 on 10-21-2007 at22:07:

lol

It takes time, like the whole game, you need 167 pop (i think) to get all tattoos to level 5.

I almost have one of the second ones to +5 Smile

If tattoos were cheap it would be boring for people getting them Wink

Posted by Mortis on 10-23-2007 at17:40:

quote:

Originally posted by Szeszej
Demon Lord tatoo is the one for shuriken of vengeance as it has an aura effect that reduces its high requirements.

Szeszej, its not about requirements, its about that Vengeance zeroes your defense and thus none of these 3 tattoos for ranged weapons will work. Could you tell this developers to find some solutions?

Thank you

Posted by Elisabeth on 10-23-2007 at20:11:

Shuriken of Vengeance is too powerful to make tattoo for it.

Posted by Szeszej on 10-23-2007 at20:29:

quote:

Originally posted by Mortis

quote:

Originally posted by Szeszej
Demon Lord tatoo is the one for shuriken of vengeance as it has an aura effect that reduces its high requirements.

Demon Lord tatoo will work as the effect is an aura.

Posted by Mortis on 10-23-2007 at22:00:

Only Enemies' bones and Shaman are auras the other 2 not, so they will not work.
As I understand it in Enemies' bones this is aura: Aura (always works): stat requirements lowered by +2 %, but what the effect: Effects: hit of all weapons +5, will it also work? I think no.

So when you use Vengeance the only thing which will work is aura from Enemies' bones and Shaman (lowered requirements and experience increase) and as I wrote earlier, it's not about requirements, it's about the effects of all tattoos. They will not work. That's the problem.
When I choose any other tattoo path for melee or guns I will not have such problem right? Then I could choose anything because in every tattoo path is one always working aura, but that's not an option for ranged fighter.

Posted by Szeszej on 10-24-2007 at00:38:

Well, the ranged vengence items are meant to work with the Demon Lord only.

Posted by Gendibal on 10-24-2007 at01:18:

I think the point that is being made here is that the vengeance items will not work with the tattoo. The vengeance suffix reduces the defence given by items to 0 ... which means they will always fall short of the minimum armour reqirements of the tattoo:

i.e.

Tatoo requirements:
LEVEL 1 : helmet defence min 5, armour defence min 8, pants defence min 5
LEVEL 2 : helmet defence min 10, armour defence min 16, pants defence min 10
LEVEL 3 : helmet defence min 15, armour defence min 24, pants defence min 15
LEVEL 4 : helmet defence min 20, armour defence min 32, pants defence min 20
LEVEL 5 : helmet defence min 25, armour defence min 40, pants defence min 25

With the vengeance weapon, there will always be the same defensive rating on all of these

helmet defence = 0 (5 points short of lvl 1 requirement)
armour defence = 0 (8 points short of lvl 1 requirement)
pants defence = 0 (5 points short of lvl 1 requirement)

so only the specific aura powers would work, not the rest of the tattoo

Posted by Mortis on 10-24-2007 at13:49:

That's exactly the problem. Maybe it was meant to work with this tattoo, but it will not. In fact it will not work with any of ranged tattoo. Any solution Szeszej?

Thanx

Posted by Evangelion on 10-24-2007 at14:08:

If there would be a tattoo with requirements of defense = 0 or max 7 then everybody would use it. The vengeance suffix in ranged weapons is too powerful to be empowered by tattoos...

Posted by Gendibal on 10-24-2007 at14:26:

There are overpowered prefixes and suffixes in each of the melee categories that are supported by tattoos ..... saying that the 'vengeance' suffix is too powerful to be supported in ranged is again leaving that category out in the cold.

Granted, there has been one of the overpowered melee suffixes has had some work done to balance it out (suicide), but it still leaves a huge gap between melee and the other weapons.