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Originally posted by DemonDude2
Anyone else notice its now 'v 1.1.0.13a' .. whats the a about??
Exciting!! =] |
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| [R1] Zmniejszono bonus przeciwników ekspedycyjnych, wynikajcy z udziaBu w ekspedycji postaci z II Aktu o 30%. |
It says: Decreased bonus of exp mobs by 30% that is gained due Act II players in your team.
But it's Polish R1 => the first BW server (completely archaic game-play)
It DOESN"T change anything at all on English R1.
Definitely not exciting 
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| Thread: Merge List V2 |
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This is a wonderful base but I am sure that neck and finger jewellery differ.
You should separate them before it's done. I don't have any proof though. Maybe it's just my imagination.
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| Thread: Sick people |
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I totally agree with Lysandra except one thing. Instead of 60% I would say it's 100%-1.
Every person is an individual and there is no rational way to prove that someone is normal. And who is that 1 person who is normal? Well. It's me (from my point of view) or it can be Lysandra (from her point of view) and of course it's you Lasher (from your point of view).
Conclusion: there is nothing "normal" on this world. Everything is based on your opinion.
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| Thread: Server Events |
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Originally posted by diablo
Just look and tell me how many have you actually seen:
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I've seen all off them. Not all on this server of course ;P
The problem is that events are very rare.
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| Thread: Legendary sniper user |
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Nah, I'll pass. It would be extremely boring to start all over and I won't be so mean to retake my account with the password reminder option XD
Or maybe it is deleted already? I've heard some rumours that it is not a sniper any more 
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It would make outrageous lags. This won't be implemented.
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| Thread: Bracelet of Concentration |
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Bracelet of Concentration (+5) CLOSE
Ring
Effects: CHARISMA +7, REPUTATION -1, INTELLIGENCE +8, KNOWLEDGE +8
Requirements: LEVEL: 39, STRENGTH: 17, APPEARANCE: 47
Selling price: 28 450 Lgo
Value: Nanites 104, Mana 505
Offers:
- 3SS and 2 MS
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- 25 LS
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| Thread: increasing production of the slaughterhouse |
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It is a fact that getting to the top is harder for new players but it is also a fact that possible progressing is a lot faster for them. And I don't know why the lack off blood should stop them.
At the beginning of the server there was NO blood. When I was at the top we started making PoH sieges with our allies. There were some people that had lvl 20 or lower and I believe that you know how much blood they posses. That started a blood boom which was unbelievable for me (experience from polish servers). 100 000 l of blood was as good as common and people got used to wasting it. Arcane in every ambush/defence/journey. Thanks to that kind of actions the production of blood was equal to the usage. Then the patch came. Old market used a lot off blood and people begun to get short on it.
I have good news for you. My clan managed to build a hospital so the top has a great blood production now. I can make 7560 l a day. Don't look far, I am easy to farm 
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| Thread: increasing production of the slaughterhouse |
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Originally posted by Gendibal
Advice yes, but whether it is good or bad is not for me to say.
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It is your decision to use it or not so you decide is it good or bad
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Agreed you weren't always at the top, but you reached your current status during the time when the BW economy was healthy and without the resource shortages we are seeing now. Therefore, you learned how to get there outside the situation you are now promoting as correct, making the precept you are basing your comments on incorrect.
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My character was "born" at the beginning of the server. 1000 Lgo, 10 people and 200 l. That is all I had. Now it grown into 10 138 l, almost "infinite" amount of cash and 8 416 503 people.
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To use a sporting analogy, it's like comparing Rocky Marciano, Cassius Clay and Mike Tyson in boxing ..... as there is no basis for an accurate comparison (they never fought each other at the top of their game, they didn't have major opponents incommon, etc) then their records are all that can be compared.
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Of course we can't be compared. Our lvl difference make the battle unfair but still I have weaknesses and I don't mind if an intelligent player like you takes use of them.
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likewise in BW, you reached your current state when resources were running normally, but as they are in a state of severe decline (Lgo and blood anyway) the same conditions cannot be applied for comparison to progress now. |
Not true.
As for Mortis:
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@Zeruel: Not to mention you had knowledge from polish server.. |
So what. It is a short-term bonus. Now the English merge list is even better than Polish and I can certainly say that no one it top50 is a "n00b"
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I pretty sure I should be ashamed of myself, but I've begun hiding behind high perception to fend off the majority of my attackers.
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Defending your blood is nothing to be ashamed off. Gendibal should behave like you, maybe this topic wouldn't exist 
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| Thread: increasing production of the slaughterhouse |
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The "
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Gendibal. I wasn't always at the top. I just learned how to get there. Maybe just take my "plan" as a good advice.
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10a) Your internet connection goes down.
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And it is BW Team's fault I guess
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| Thread: increasing production of the slaughterhouse |
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And that is the point of my basic blood saving tactic:
1) You are attacked.
2a) If you have 0 hp you attack someone weaker than you and refill your hp.
2b) You make quests. Especially easy quests with 90% all would be good.
3) You make even more quests.
4) You use up all your blood to join sieges and expos.
5) You are attacked.
6) Just before the end of second phase you attack someone and refill your hp.
7) Buy a disposal.
Win a siege/expedition
Pure and almost basic skill of a BW player
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| Thread: increasing production of the slaughterhouse |
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You kind of forgotten about the ambush regeneration bonus.
As for journeys. In zone III you get about 20-100 blood pre quest. Lets say that you can get at least 700 blood a day. This is enough to turn it into arcana and join a siege/expedition.
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| Thread: quistions |
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Good Titanium Signet (+1) CLOSE
Ring (Only for males)
Effects: REPUTATION +6, APPEARANCE +2, STRENGTH +6, CHARISMA +9, character defence +11,
This is a bonus that gives your character's an defence boost. Guns are not effected by it. On the other hand Suicide weapon won't destroy the bonus so it works on meele/range.
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| Thread: increasing production of the slaughterhouse |
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Originally posted by diochawolper
an idea is to have a event where the blood production is doubled.
for example:
Large Veins: Bloodproduction is increased by 100%.
i know the name is stupid but its late and i dont know a better name
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We already have an event called "fresh blood". Regeneration = 50%. This gives even more to those that can't defend and the name is better
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If this form of strategic play is what you rely on, then how did you survive when blood supplies were more relaiable than they are now?
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Easily. I didn't
I was a member of Tainted for a long time. It had only few strong players (the rest couldn't even make a clan armoury) so we had to depend on mercy of stronger clans. This is quite natural but now when the amount of blood is lesser there is a tiny hope for a weaker clan to win with a stronger.
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| Thread: What TYPE of player are you, regarding squares. |
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I think that I have both of those "personalities". It is a drag to build your square especially if you are not an absorber but I can do it and protect it with my clan. On the other hand if I want a square I won't stop until I'll conquer it. I still remember the beginning of the server when Azz had 3 sieges in a row from me
It ended with a patch that has gives an advantage to the defender. He can hire mercenaries at the 1st phase but the invader can't.
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| Thread: increasing production of the slaughterhouse |
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Originally posted by Cthulhu
then why are the buildings still not supplying them with enough blood? |
Reason no 1
V - 2h
IV - 1,5 h
III - 1 h
II - 0,5 h gap between ambushes
Reason no 2: Less blood from quests.
Reason no 3: More hp and bp to regenerate.
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Originally posted by Cthulhu
People will still siege & attack each other; and they will still attack enemies before a siege - that is as you so rightly say "strategic" play. It will mean that if they can generate more blood you will have to be even more cunning & plan your attacks more thoroughly - even making sure that your clan mates also do the same thing. 
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It won't be more "strategic". It will be a bigger pain.
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| Thread: increasing production of the slaughterhouse |
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I have an constructive idea. Let's delete arcana. This will decrease our usage off blood
More seriously. If you have 0 blood, you don't have to attack someone strong who possesses a lot of this resource. You can attack anybody just to regenerate. Then you can make quests. It should be enough for most important stuff. If you have a good timing between ambushes on you, you don't have to worry about blood.
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| but i think getting a small amount of blood from ambushes, even if the openant didnt have any, would help a little bit as well, but would not fix the problem. |
You don't get a small amount. You get full hp and eventually loose it on battling. Just choose your opponents wisely.
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| Remember that every zone you go up gives you an additional building for blood. |
Hospital gives a lot off blood (+100 l/h on the first lvl) but it is almost impossible to build. And you get less blood from quests and more ambushes per day.
Higher - harder.
Although it is hard to keep your blood, I don't want any changes. Collecting blood is one of the most important abilities of a good BW player.
For example sieges. It is not just to join and go. You should ambush your enemy's clan members. Maybe some off them are not on-line and they won't have any hp of the siege? Honestly this is the only strategy in this game and I wouldn't like to loose it
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| Thread: Szeszej deserves a warning ;) |
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Well. Literally we don't exchange stones for Lgo but for junk
And more seriously this wasn't a proposition. Konrad just have uploaded the patch and Szeszej have translated it so that UK players can understand what happened.
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| Thread: BW Real Estate |
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First flaw. Top20 can put their squares on auction. Sell them for a very good price (because they have the best squares) and then retake them to sell them again. Auctions are anonymous, so you can't tell who is cheating and who is not. We shouldn't make ideas that increase the wealth of rich by draining the stones from the poor.
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| Thread: dream equipment |
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Assault bandanna/hat of precognition
Hunter's cape of speed
Elvish shorts of shepherd
Hawk's ring of concentration
Hawk's ring of concentration
Hawk's amulet of levitation
Perfect Sniper Rifle
Sniper Tattoo
No expedition would be too hard for with this
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| Thread: quistions |
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I am almost sure that light prefix decreases lvl and str requirements.
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| Thread: Blood sower stuff |
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Basic economics.
Death Sower is rare so the supply is low.
It is a very good suffix so the demand is high.
Conclusion: The price is high.
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| Thread: What Tatoo are you? |
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There are 3 snipers besides me. I wonders who likes perfect shooting
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| Thread: One last blow out |
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Hmm. I am a sniper and I don't complain. Maybe that path just didn't suit you.
Edit: Goodnight everyone. I hope you won't spam too much.
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| Thread: One last blow out |
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Originally posted by Gendibal
Ooooooh, you've come to hitting the nail RIGHT on the head ..... why waste money abroad? Obviously they saw a reason in the beginning, but if you're going to market your wares abroad, surely you TEST THEM OUT IN THE MARKET YOU INTEND THEM TO SELL IN ..... Hell, why not open a bar in Saudi, theres a huge gap in the market there ......... oh hang on, theres a reason for that, and a little RESEARCH would tell you what it is. Same thing with marketing Bloodwars abroad, it should have been BETA TESTED with a range of INTERNATIONAL players before being hastily rushed onto the market (Microsoft anyone?) |
I am not defending them. All my posts are neutral (are at least I tried to make them like that). I don't know why they've done steps like that and why wouldn't they open new servers. I simply can't read in their minds and my influence in the company's future is as good as 0
I've also pointed other reasons that were ignored.
a) They work on other things.
b) They have their own life.
a) They have a huge list of unfinished propositions/patches/bugs and other stuff.
b) If the representative means nothing to you that they should be robots working 24/7 on all boards answering the same questions, problems and suggestions.
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| Thread: One last blow out |
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I can also write perfectly well but it takes a lot more time than on polish board. Firstly it's a bit unnatural to use a foreign language. Secondly I have to use a dictionary almost all the time to avoid misunderstandings. In fact it takes about three times more time that a post in my own language when I try to explain my opinion.
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| Thread: One last blow out |
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Originally posted by TerminusEst
Representative = someone to represent you
Represented = someone able to represent you effectively (and if there are language barriers then this isnt the case)
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When I use a dictionary "represented" seems to be a simple transformation on representative.
Representative = someone to represent you
Represented => it's not even a person, it's just a characteristic of someone who has a representative and I see your context very stretched
If your version is true then we have a serious language barrier therefore how do you expect to talk with me?
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on Language ... Translators ... if you are targetting a market you employ people or get people from the game millieu to accurately pass on information from both sides.
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And Szeszej is a translator as well. The thing that was strange to me was the first post where we could could read that "Szeszej and C47 don't count". That's why I thought of the Japanese example.
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It is Irrelevant to this server and the concerns put forward by the players here ... to the company it isnt irrelevant to their overall marketting strategy ... but here on Underworld it is.
Gaming Styles and Expectations differ all over the world ... whats acceptable in Japan may not be acceptable in UK ... so applying standards from one to the other doesnt gel |
This is something I completely agree. For your information the variety of server types increases. There are two game systems. And the newest r7 PL is a mutation of both so it can almost be recognized as a third type. Another question. What is the purpose in wasting money abroad if probably all those servers wouldn't fit to local players. It better to make one and see if it's successful and then try some varieties.
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| Thread: One last blow out |
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Originally posted by Gendibal
The fact that things that work on the Polish servers don't always work here ..... oh yes, they have a representative here ..... that should make it miraculously work.
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Who said that it works
Balance is something hard to achieve. It's almost impossible in fact.
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| Thread: One last blow out |
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Originally posted by TerminusEst
There is a difference between having a representative and being represented
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Can you point out the difference clearly so that an idiot like me can see it?
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... if the representative is kept in the dark then its like having no representative at all ...
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True, but you misunderstand something. It's not that he is kept in dark. Do you really think that they have a secret that is known only on polish players and it won't leek here? For me it's ridiculous. On the other way we have language barriers. Maybe they can't discuss the problems simply because they don't understand what you are saying.
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talking about whats on the Polish Server ... or wondering if Japanese server will do something is irrelevant ... the relevant point is on THIS server you have very unhappy players ... and as a company the solution to that is meet the players partway ... show some concern for their opinions ... and treat ALL your customoers equally .. |
Why is it irrelevant? I just wanted to show that it's hard to treat all equally because of our language differences. In other words. Would you really study 49 languages to say "hello, I be admin" if you can just employ someone?
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| Thread: One last blow out |
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Hmm, it would be interesting if the Japanese started a similar topic. |
Maybe to you, but I'm not looking out for the Japanese, or the French, or the Brazilians, or even the bloody little green men from outer space ..... This thread is about the second class treatment of Underworld. |
What is the difference? As long as you have a representative. You are complaining about contact. Maybe he doesn't know the answers because there are still no answers. For example: When will the 1.1. version be implemented? Unknown.
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| Thread: Final Appeal |
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Originally posted by nelacar
WHAT do we want:IMPROVMENT
WHEN do we want it:NOW |
Than write that improvement. For free of course.
SW3294: Making a copy of Gendibal's thread is just as good as spam. Closed.
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| Thread: One last blow out |
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Hmm, it would be interesting if the Japanese started a similar topic.
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| Thread: One last blow out |
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Originally posted by Gendibal
DISCLAIMER - The following thread is aimed at the general development and admin team with notable exceptions (Szeszej and C47 ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE DEV/ADMIN TEAM FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS THREAD)
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The main problem is that the "admin team" are also the main and only programmers of this game. Although they spend 16 hours a day working on BW, they barely have enough time to speak on polish board. Why should they keep in touch with foreign customers if they have a representative? Don't forget that they also have a private life (whole 8 hours). Imo any kind of boycotting won't turn attention on this board but it will only end up with closing the server.
Another reason of your system problems is that most of the problems were already discussed on polish board. Now, when a topic appears, it usually is closed by a moderator in few minutes.
There are exceptions. The "joining clan with is taking over a square is forbidden" rule came up from Elisabeth. Also the author of the new set of tattoo graphics was inspired here
Edit: Fishy, start using edit option. This is the last time when I moderated your posts.
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