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OK, delete the post, mail me saying why, easy. That keeps the thread clean.
The thread does not give any requirement that a drop should be at least +1, if that is the minimum then it should be in the first post of the thread. That is my complaint. If the thread had a minimum requirement I would not have posted.
What it does say is that it should be lucky, which isn't too clear in meaning. This dropped what I would think is exceptionally early, I have not heard of any people getting a shotgun at level 3. At that point my chances of doing quests were still fairly low.
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Why my post in this thread is spam? It says Lucky Finds. I don't know why mine isn't a lucky find when there are ones for smaller stones in there?
Lucky Finds
Secondly why do the moderators just give warnings without any reason being written? The person being 'warned' may have no idea why they are being warned.
Thirdly, they give warnings about things but don't then edit/delete/remove the post to remove the offending material?
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| Thread: A_N vs Underworld |
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Rofl can you say bumshanked?
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You most certainly can, we may have all died but we didn't lose 
Sorry about not hitting any of them, we were ROFLing too much! 
I won't give details of what actually happened as that should be up to our Clan Leader, Serafine.
Vlade, your Clan has the wrong name, please change to Apocalypse Noobs 
[edit]Moderators, I hope this is OK?
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This was certainly a lucky drop, I was at level 3, doing an easy quest and ended up carrying this home...
Shotgun
Two-handed gun
Damage: 20 - 60
Effects: Chance to hit +10, chance for critical hit +25 %, ignores 50 % of your opponent`s defence
Requirements: LEVEL: 40 (42), STRENGTH: 34 (35), AGILITY: 14, PERCEPTION: 24 (25), INTELLIGENCE: 15, KNOWLEDGE: 31 (32)
Value: 45 950 Lgo
Value: Nanites 21, Mana 4
I still can't use it lol
This is hardly lucky drop mate.. very ordinary item.. warning for SPAM
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AND I CANT FIND ANY OF THESE ON QUESTS BECAUSE??????????????? |
The system hates you and all the other people on the server 
Think it hates me too...
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Originally posted by Cheese!!!!!!!!!
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IM SICK OF BEING DETECTED IN AMBUSHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ditto,thanks. You saved me having to type that all out.
16 sieges in a row with 50%+ chance of success and I don't get one of them 
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Oh great. AN are sucking ash so bad they feel they have to attack one of the smallest allied clans they can get their hands on?
What a way to admit defeat by taking a z4 of a clan who has 0% chance of success. Congratz big men!
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Is it a warlock619 square? 4/4/2 ???
Are you complaining about taking a square that was taken from Freeko few hours after BoS has disbanded and left him without the protection?
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=0b6cdb4dce
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If what you say is accurate Freeko should have flagged on Vacation. On vacation you put up the vacation option, then NOBODY CAN TAKE YOUR SQUARE. Otherwise it would look fair game, a dead square with no guild protection. GET REAL Vlade.
[edit]Apparently, as Warlock has posted, what you say isn't accurate at all.[/edit]
Truth is this is going to make you look real small mate. Remember the Alamo? At the beginning of this thread I had a lot of respect for you, I even messaged A_N to say that while I understood what you were doing, and agreed that something had to be done, I didn't agree with your tactics and wouldn't be joining.
Or perhaps you are really small and are making up with it by ego tripping?
WTB large quantities of Scorn to throw at A_N during Siege.
Edit: Truth is Vlade, you win this, you WILL look extremely bad. You lose it, you become the laughing stock of the whole server. Either way you and A_N lose.
But who am I to attempt to stop you digging your own grave? Come on, we'll take you! Endbeginners are laughing at you Vlade. Do your worst. we'll survive.
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New Result Up 
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And a damn fine one it is too. Congratz to those winners who took part 
Seems that most of the server Clans' top hitters are in there. Which was what I didn't manage to point out earlier. Top 3 clans might not be able to stop them but all of them together certainly can. Is that good for the server though?
Some points
It shouldn't be for those at the bottom, although a few changes to help them would be nice. The top seems pretty damn lonely and boring from what I've read. There needs to be more to do throughout the game. If there isn't more to do then more people will get bored, leave and the server will suffer.
The real enemy here isn't A_N but all the other games sucking people away.
I THINK the best result we can hope for is a draw. If the alliance manages to push A_N from the server what would it achieve? The loss of some good players who have remained loyal to the game? Is that good for the server?
OK, I'm a little squeaker at the bottom still. That means I'm missing all the action. BUT this is very interesting, and should be for everyone else too. From what I've been told A_N wasn't the only one planning sieges, they just got in first and upset everyone else's plans.
Please don't tread on the mouse.
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A message to all clanmembers.
Lako has began a siege on
The target of the siege is warlock619.
A siege to take over the enemy square.
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They are bravely taking on Serafine's Endbeginners, a Clan dedicated to helping those beginners A_N is supposedly so intent on helping. Vlade, what hypocrisy you suffer.
Looks like mighty A_N are going to tread on the mouse after all. Yes, I'm in. We might go down but we'll spit in Vlade's eye before we do 
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Third, James is tiger_claw he has every reason to post in this thread, you don't. |
Oh my. I thought these were reasonably open forums and anyone could post, providing they stayed within the rules.
-On topic: Protection sieges still ongoing, as everyone must be aware. At the moment I've got no idea what A_N is trying to achieve but they aren't accomplishing much that I can see, except really irritating a lot of people.
Apollo, I have a feeling you might like the word Hypocrisy for some reason.
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DruGan, you accuse me of repeating? I wonder who put you and jamess36362 up to this?
-On topic: From APOCALYPSE_NOW Clan description
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WAR STATUS: CANCELED
nobody wants to fight
CHANGING INTO DEVELOPMENT CENTER
Looking for players who want to develope under our command.
If you don't have a people to build sth we'll get for you any amount of them. Just call for "Vlade the bunker killer".
Do you want to make some task? Just let us know. We'll tell you how to do it, give equipment for a task quest or siege or bring the resources needed.
Do you want to get some experience. Just let us know. We're taking additional people for the expos even if you wan't be able to do any dmg.
Our goal is to become the fastest growing clan on the server.
Unfortunatelly wa can not promise you everyday sieges because we don't want to be called a NAZI...
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If that's true don't expect any more actions.
Not so much war as damp squib?
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everything u say is offtopic, and u spam everywhere, im suprised u not been bannded from the forum, serious please stop, getting very annoying.
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Thank you for your opinion. I am pretty sure most of my posts were on topic as they were relevant to what I quoted. As I started some of the threads everything I say can't be off topic so please don't use such blatant generalisations.
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on topic: the sieges were very epic, for either side to win, they will have to get their tactics right. but im sure this is not the end
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Unless there are more sieges then it would be very difficult to tell if either side has the possibility of winning this. The only end result may well be stalemate.
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Cheese!!!!!!!!!
and Noumenon, and anyone else who has forgotten. I quote Apollo's most truthful and correct words.
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You do realise this is just an internet game right? |
I sometimes think this should be carved into gold and fastened to the top of every monitor in existence used for gaming.
The way some people are acting they have personally been stabbed in the back and A_N are the Borgias redone. It's a GAME, that's the way it's obviously meant to be played or it would be against the rules. Either get over it or find something else to do.
As for their power trip, there are others having the same in this thread.
And pulling the members back who were, let's say 'delusional', about the effect the A_N guild might have should take precedence over any thought of revenge. Proving they are ineffective and poaching our members back might be the quickest way to break them.
Threatening them with possible later consequences will only ensure they stay together because they will have no choice.
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In all honesty this game has lost all sense of values it had ,
lost my z4 wanted to go to a bigger clan to get it back and got told sorry this isn't our problem and we don't want to get into a war over a square
dammit guys this game used to be all about sieges and helping out guys and moving from one clan to another to help out
now it seems like that all the top clans (in both servers) have decided that they are gonna sit around and do nothing and sod anyone who is trying to come up the ranks if your not in a top ten clan, tough , you are just there to build squares for them to take off you to give to someone undeserving and when you do ask for assistance then it's umm sorry we can't risk it
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perhaps you feel as though this game "has gone to crud" because you spent 2 years now of your playing life moaning about a lost square...
Oh and have you not been at all aware of the recent events? I've underlined which bit I'm talking about, did you not see how many people all up and left to go and help out another clan? Can you not see what is going on around you on this server? Many of us deserted our own squares in a desperate attempt to save 1 person's square, is that enough helping for you? Or by lack of helping out you mean, lack of helping you satisfy your need for "justice"?
don't know why I go on this board it makes me angry :')
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Lets see if you would be so happy if it was your square on the line? Or maybe your friends...Somehow I think not. |
Obviously this person isn't your friend. And I think you might subconsciously enjoy being angry.
-On topic: @Waaaaaaaaambulance: You either give up on something or you poke them till they either do something, or they ban you, or they prove they don't care. I thought it might be worth a try, seems like they don't care and nobody seems bothered enough. Why is nobody else bothered enough to complain? 
-On topic: Sorted out a 53% chance of First Pilgrimage to the Wastlands, took over 30 damn quests to do it? Fifteen+ damn hours I couldn't do anything else? Then I get my butt kicked - twice cause I've not got my proper gear on. And nothing interesting on the forums that I can afford. HM quests are dull and boring!!!!!
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I was pointing out that I use the knife build for sieges, so plausibly relevant if not directly so. Sorry I waffled a bit.
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In all honesty I don't see where this is going.. All they've done is try to get the biggest players together in one clan.. Great.. And those in there apart from people like ces + other like 5k+ players are only there so they don't loose squares and honour.. That's fun? Sucking upto people to protect yourselves instead of staying and protecting friends..
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It might be going nowhere, the incumbents in zones 1-3 might be so entrenched that they can't be beaten.
There was no 'intrinsic god given right' not to have your high zone square sieged or a life long contract by the developers that you can keep it intact. If I can lose my square to a group that can take it good enough, but I expect everyone else should have the same risk.
So where's the fun for someone sitting in zone 4, looking through the defences at the heavily fortified and luxurious squares in zone 3, 2 and 1? If there isn't going to be any sieges into those zones then put all zone 1-4 squares on an equal footing.
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But non the less those 2seiges up there are pretty epic :-)
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I wonder how long ago the previous one was?
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i didnt want to satart a new topic, so ill post this here
its just some small tips for selling junk
1. always sell even numbers of junk, you can get 1 bloodstone for every pice of junk, and if you sell an uneven number then the one thats left over you get nothing for
2. sell amounts between 10 and 20. 1 hs can be brocken down to make 5 bs, and you need those for upgrading. by selling amounts between 11 and 19 you get more for your junk, if you sell 20 pieces you will get 1 hs probably which can only be brocken down to 5bs, whereas if you sell 18 you will get 9bs.
3. a handy tip. if you can afford it you can buy odd numbers of junk, add one iece to make it even, resell it and gain a bloodstone from your one piece. or you can buy an uneven, take one, then get your stones back by selling the even amount left, so you get a piece of junk for nothing. |
This no longer applies, everyone should get 1 stone per piece of junk. Worth setting the time to maximum as that gives the best chance of getting the value and not being ripped off by a low bidder.
If you need single stones sell 9 or less in a batch. Avoid breaking stones as that just wastes them. To be honest this is one of my pet hates, it's like going into the bank, handing over a large value banknote and only getting half back. I feel like Szeszej is robbing me on this, although not directly. Only sell large quantities of junk in one if you need large stones.
It is always worth buying large batches of junk if you have enough large stones and need small ones. You can then sell them for lower value stones rather than breaking one.
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When I started playing I quickly switched to bows for damage, per round they did more damage than the 1 handed weapons. Level 25 I switched to daggers, 4 attacks did more damage than the 2 from a bow.
I'm now at lvl 34. I'm starting to use a Hunting Rifle (+5) against Whites with some success, but I'm still using daggers for Ambushes.
Warning for SPAM. Mortis
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Excuse me, I need these more than he does...
*removes Szeszej trainers*
Yep, just my size
Can I borrow this cable too?
*watches servers all crash*
Oops!
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Also in response to your link, this is a forum which we are all entitled to use, hence therefore I am allowed to voice my opinion on your and your clans actions, so please don't tell me where to post it is your choice if you wish to read this or not but I am posting it whether you like it or not.
Have a nice day.
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I might not always agree with what you say but I will support your right to say it with as much effort as I can
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Since it bothers you so much, I moved it to Mishmash.
I won't say much about the war... Just that I don't approve of it and Vlade is too self-centered to even discuss something like this... |
Thanks, the original purpose is obviously already under way or no longer relevant.
While I don't agree with the originally posted tactics of A_N I do agree that there was an apparent lack of promotion options through sieges.
The present action though might just show that sieges are no longer worth bothering with at a high level anyway.
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I totally agree this needs a separate thread.
Only 2 results isn't anywhere near the statistics needed to assess the effects of sieges though. If anyone else ends up on a completed one please post the results
These two may hint that the defenders have an advantage at this level but that's just an assumption that these two are an average.
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I'm not saying anything because there isn't any point. The Developers don't seem to give a rat's rear end about the server or improving it.
Thread can go in whatever direction, it's purpose has been overtaken by events.
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ARRRRGGGGHHHH
"The Prophet's" - "I was right about all this doom and gloom" is starting to really get on my [insert part of anatomy here] why don't people wait till they are actually actively involved in all this rubbish before talking out their [insert part of anatomy here] Oh well done for saying this was going to happen - great >.< heres a medal while the rest of us sort it out!
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+1 been a long time since i've agreed so whole heartedly with you
uppity little "enjoyable human beings" thinking they know more than the people who have been playing this game for years winds me right up! >:U |
I'll respond with why are people who have done something for years so entrenched in the belief that a newcomer can't suggest improvements?
Don't bother replying, the correct answer to both of our issues is that it's human nature.
I'll now get back to...
Arrrgh! F***ing phoenix! No real damage for four rounds, it's going down nicely then ten special attacks? >
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Does anyone else just feel trolled by a level 30 who wishes to change the whole game without firstly playing it?
Its like a 10 year old redrawing the laws of physics. Stop giving newton the finger, and start enjoying this beautiful online game! |
I have played it. I only comment on what I've observed personally or what I've been told.
I started off enjoying the game, now I'm asking the questions, is that all there is? and can this be improved?
There are issues that could easily be improved. If you think it takes years to work out the basics of a game and where problems might be you're misleading yourself. If you think it can't be improved at all then you are delusional.
I don't need to give Newton the finger, Einstein already did that.
As to your illustration, I point to all the Scientists who have brought forward a new theory and then been blasted as idiots, morons, fools or childish before being proved right.
Oh, and if you think I'm a troll then stop feeding me.
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the bible is so vague that like nostradamus you can claim it predicted many things but it didn't, its like astrology, people find meaning after the events and fit them to the words to make it so.
you said earlier that there was no point fighting as A_N had 9/20 of the top players which siunds very much to me like a doom and gloom attitude /facepalm
they have succeeded in what they wanted to do perhaps, but their initially broadcasted aim was to destroy all non A_N z3/z2 squares which most certainly hasn't been accomplished. Obviously though you knew this and are privy to their thinking so why didn't you tell us!? \O_o/
I haven't "dissed" you im genuinely concerend about your mental health/capabilities. Your just repeating things we've had dozens of threads about in the past and haven't brought anything new to the table at all. That is why i was telling you to lurk more, so you would understand that this has all been hashed out over and over. The fact that your clearly butthurt about that though is hillarious. |
Bible, not quite. Lots of it is bumpf but the history books are reasonably accurate, at least as accurate as the Roman ones. The problem isn't so much they are vague but that they may have been altered at a later date, which is why you can't trust any of the new testament ones.
I did assume that Lysandra and others were correct in the statements they made, after all, they do have a lot more experience than I do of playing the game. What I'm saying is they can do quite a bit of damage if they want, and, if they did it properly, no Clan could stop them on it's own. It would require the effort of many clans to do that. I've also stated that the best outcome is almost inevitably a draw.
Fortunately their real aim isn't as drastic as they initially claimed, although I know some squares are under protective siege.
As to my mental health it's fine, I even manage to spell words correctly, unlike some. I don't need you to be concerned. It would take a lot more than what you and everyone else has said on these forums to bother me. What I'm trying to avoid is this and other threads to descend into some form of slagging match.
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Lets see if you would be so happy if it was your square on the line? Or maybe your friends...Somehow I think not. |
I've said throughout the thread I'm not happy with it. I'll say again I would have preferred it not to happen. Now it has deal with it.
Oh, and if you want my square you can have it
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the Bible are you loving kidding?
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Quite a bit of the bible has proven to be historically accurate, so I'm not kidding.
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things repeat themselves and people learn, what they dont do is come about years later spouting off common history/knowledge claiming to be an illuminati who has just reached enlightenment.
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Obviously they do, well, at least some of them. Most keep falling for the same old things.
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as for me throwing my toys out the pram, it wasn't me who proclaimed the server lost and who was advocating total doom and gloom (for total doom and gloom the fact that nothings changed in terms of squares being taken makes you a pretty lousy prophet if you ask me) that'd be you there little guy, but nice try.
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Wasn't me either. As for no damage yet, they have already succeeded in what they wanted to do.
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As i said go back to lurking and use the search function next time or at the very least keep your opinions to yourself and your clanmates rather than posting them on a public forum if you dont want them critiqued.
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And how many of them are yours? I have no problem with critique, it's when someone decides to diss me. Perhaps you should go back to lurking?
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are you a drooling, special educated, helmet wearing, short yellow bus rider?
now i know mommy and daddy have told you your special but quite frankly your not and these dellusions of grandeur are ridiculous.
My suggestion is you need to go back to lurking because none of what your predicting/telling us is new and maybe when you come back in a few months people will have forgotten all about you and you can start over again with a clean slate.
oh and a prophet isn't someone who simply repeats what others have said years before (use the search function perhaps) and claims to be a prophet... that would be the village fool. |
Stop acting like a baby throwing all it's toys out of the pram mate.
And go read your bible and history books too, you will find things repeat far too often.
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My square is under as much threat as anyone elses in z3/z2 and i am well aware of the implications. That being said its a perfectly valid tactic and when implimented on other servers they have survived. If you give up without trying then the server will die, but there are other ways to get poh (we can ambush and poh seige one another in the worst case scenario) so no the server wont be crippled, we will be crippled but the server could potentially live on.
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Have a look at the distribution of Clan APOCALYPSE_NOW. They hold the top 4 leaderboard places with, Blodsugare, Vlade, Nndungu and CESARZ. They have 6 of the top 10 and 9 of the top 20 players. NO OTHER GUILD CAN GO UP AGAINST THEM.
Brotherhood of Steel (Mortis), HomeLess Lions and Vault 13 combined couldn't face them.
They also have some nifty options if you attack one of theirs.
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If you feel this way then do us all a favour and delete your character now, it will save me the effort of having to read your posts in which you are simply coming to the same conclusions the rest of us reached years ago and labelling yourself a prophet for doing so.
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I notice you have been very vocal on these forums about this before I posted. The prophet isn't the person who notices things and then says nothing, they are the person who stands up and says something. That puts them up in line for attack.
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And welcome to the real world kid, what people do do and what they should do aren't the same, if they were then the world would be a good place to live in. They dont though, they do whats most profitable and thats why we have wars for oil, companies polluting because its cheaper than investing/researching in greener methods and companies ignoring their customers because they are well aware that people wont boycott their products. |
Don't need to, I'm too far down for them to bother with. As to welcome to the real world, I suspect I was here long before you, please don't make assumptions about me when you don't know.
Paranoia, I wish you were slightly less paranoid. I didn't say it was useless, you might be able to fight them to a stalemate, with everyone else. One attack doesn't prove anything though. This isn't about ambushes on people.
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As Lysandra said it's not about sieges. |
You still sure about that?
What I messaged to my Clan about 30 minutes ago...
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The Guilds had the top squares sewn up to a large extent. That meant movement upwards for those that wanted to was either very restricted or non-existant.
This wasn't the Guild Leader's or anyone else's direct fault, it's just the way people play the game and behave in real life. Those at the top have spent years building up their squares and there was effectively a gentleman's agreement not to rock the boat.
Unfortunately, while that was very nice for them that had, the had nots didn't like it. The whole issue was a pressure cooker with no outlet valve. The result is the French Revolution Redux.
Disgruntled people joined the new guild and it's now the most powerful on the server. That's why it's impossible to attack them, you hit one of theirs, the higher ones hit you. They have Blodsugare way up in 1/1/1 and Vlade, number 2 on the list, as well as a load of other powerful people.
Seemingly they aren't taking over the top squares, they are destroying the facilities on them that produce PoH. That might have effects down the line on lower people simply because so much that happens depends on those.
So why am I telling you this, cause I predicted something was going to happen on the Forums a few days ago. Then again, nobody wants to listen to a prophet spout doom and gloom.
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My square is under as much threat as anyone elses in z3/z2 and i am well aware of the implications. That being said its a perfectly valid tactic and when implimented on other servers they have survived. If you give up without trying then the server will die, but there are other ways to get poh (we can ambush and poh seige one another in the worst case scenario) so no the server wont be crippled, we will be crippled but the server could potentially live on.
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Have a look at the distribution of Clan APOCALYPSE_NOW. They hold the top 4 leaderboard places with, Blodsugare, Vlade, Nndungu and CESARZ. They have 6 of the top 10 and 9 of the top 20 players. NO OTHER GUILD CAN GO UP AGAINST THEM.
Brotherhood of Steel (Mortis), HomeLess Lions and Vault 13 combined couldn't face them.
They also have some nifty options if you attack one of theirs.
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And to address the point about the developers they wont care if this server dies, its the smallest server they run, thus its the smallest cash cow they have and probably more of a drain on their resources than anything (its for this reason we dont get new servers as its not worth them implimenting one here as they can get more money for it elsewhere, its for this reason they ignore us and we get patches last). |
To be honest I'd already worked that out in my previous threads. Except they should care. The server might not be exceptionally profitable but they should be making some money from it. Assuming 1000 players paying that's more than enough to run the server. Maintenance at the moment is just daily backups and virtually non-existent updates.
I suspect all their servers have haemorrhaged gamers to other games, not just this one. There just simply isn't enough to do and the system is, in parts, ridiculous.
The game is now a niche item, good for a few who have invested a lot of time in their characters or those that can't access other games easily. The problem is this action is smashing the game for those who have invested time and money in it.
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I don't like it any more than you do but good times for who? You or them?
Those who don't have the advantage are going to get irritated by those who do, that is just part of being human. Eventually it boils over and you get a nasty incident.
That's partly why I mentioned it at the beginning, it was fairly obvious there was quite a few disgruntled people out there. People who didn't have what they saw as the advantages of a higher zone. |
you want your sieges...well you got em... if you were bigger you would understand the severity of losing a square.... most peoples squares have been slowly build for over 3 years like the one im sat in... diablos z2....
the server has the power to take that clan but it would mean destroying squares to fit people into the clan to take them back....
if this clan is allowed to go ahead the game will be dead.
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im not trying to be nasty but to me and alot of others you seem like the person that plays a game for 20 mins and thinks he knows best..... When you put time and effort into something only for it to be taken away by someone on a power trip thats bored it pisses you off.... that is whats going to happen.... this goes ahead people like you will actually have a chance of getting into the top 10 in the next year as so many people will delete |
I know you aren't being nasty mate, but neither am I. I certainly knew something was about to happen. I didn't know it would be quite on this scale though, or cause such pain to people.
Due to my training and skills I am able to quickly spot items that come up as issues. I have helped several far more experienced members of my guild by giving advice on subjects when they asked for an opinion. Before my hands and back went with early onset osteo-arthritis I was heading for a very nice business management position.
Think of Sir John Harvey-Jones in The Troubleshooter series, although at a much lower level.
I've also played many other games I could mention, but won't. My experience from those does apply to this one too. I can see where they are better and where this one is.
Just think, in ancient times I would be declared a prophet and probably be stoned to death. I think that's a bit worse than a bit of barracking on a forum
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Half the seige problem is to do with the community and the fact that they are never ever happy with anything, someone always has to whine about something. "Waaa theres no seiges this game is boring, bring back the seiges"... etc etc, swiftly followed by "Waaaa someones trying to take my square".
You guys were crying that there were no seiges and now it looks like theres gonna be a hell of a lot of them. But because they're not friendly pointless seiges and you have something to lose your just gonna whine again. Quite frankly this could be a blessing in disguise showing you just how good you've had it. |
spot on. I feel people only dont have seiges because whats the point. we have a decent poh stash from squares and attacks so why risk losing any in a seige?
Rage at this bloody war. Why disturb the good times?! |
I don't like it any more than you do but good times for who? You or them?
Those who don't have the advantage are going to get irritated by those who do, that is just part of being human. Eventually it boils over and you get a nasty incident.
That's partly why I mentioned it at the beginning, it was fairly obvious there was quite a few disgruntled people out there. People who didn't have what they saw as the advantages of a higher zone.
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yea ive heard there looking to destory them as well
i fail to see sence or reason behind any of it but hey, theres not a huge deal we can do |
There's plenty we can do
and plenty we will do
It seems that Serious you may get your wish for more seiges very soon, shame its out of malice and not through organisation... |
The difference is I wasn't complaining for myself but for the benefit of others. To an extent the game is stagnating. My preference is to improve game play for everyone, not destroy something that has taken a lot of effort to produce.
The present action isn't the way to achieve change and can only damage the game and those playing.
I can see the probability of some accounts getting banned. My alliance is already taking action to limit or negate damage, hopefully that will work.
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There is always war in this game, that is the whole point of it. It reminds me of a Star Trek Next Generation episode where two warring factions were placed on a planet with nanites that constantly repaired their bodies. True death was impossible while the war was never ending.
Got 20 days of premium left before I need to consider renewal, at the moment I'm being fairly negative about that.
It certainly isn't the people playing the game, but the game itself. The only reason I'm still playing at the moment is the people in my Clan.
You do some quests, attack some people do an expo, have a check on the Auctions and that's usually about it.
The game play feels like something I tried way back in 1985, although without other people. Some areas look tacked on, and while they may work they aren't exactly the best option by a long way.
If I go I'll keep the money in Junk, give the clan a chance to clear out the resources and then leave it with empty hands.
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I do get a number of complaints from higher up as to how hard levels 3 and above are. It is fairly obvious that the area is pretty much full whereas most of 4 is still empty and 5 is, to a large extent, dead.
Perhaps you should be able to bank towards something rather than just stand around and get hit, or at least have the maximum losses set at a more reasonable level.
At the moment you can bank money as junk, and the system protects that, why not other resources?
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I was being generous with the 5,000...lol. I haven't offically attacked anyone for the better part of a year (I think) so I hadn't been able to notice all the dead accounts. Since I started attacking again yesterday, I've seen a ton.
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Some of the accounts I have ambushed gave me 200-300,000 Lgo in one hit meaning they haven't been attacked in some time. Most of the earliest ones were still bare hands or just a single one handed weapon. I have 22 accounts I've attacked listed in my messages, all of which are dead. That doesn't include the very few real tough ones I've attacked in my saved mail.
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I know it's already happened but...
1 I certainly agree it's a good idea for those with little time, it allows them to use their quests up.
2 I haven't used it and won't.
I did all easy and normal quests the 'hard way'. Now I'm up to the HM ones. 45% chance of Agility, more when I get my Adrenaline hat through the auction process. Quite good considering I'm still only lvl 32.
Even with that 45% the chance of winning any specific HM Quest is still only about 5%. It also takes 30 minutes to do anything. That means the level of reward is so low that it's not worth bothering to use Caravan Deluxe on HM, whereas it would be on Easy or Normal for some.
With anything that low you might as well use the normal caravan and set it up for several quests.
BTW Any chance of time on HM quest being cut to 15 or 20 minutes? It wouldn't affect the total number of Quests per day but would mean people who use specific builds for these wouldn't be as vulnerable to Ambushes for as long
/waits for inevitable complaints from those who love getting ambushed with their pants down
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PLEASE READ CAREFULLY..
I have already said it's not about sieges. You just can't improve that area directly without damaging the game.
The clan system isn't going to change, and it would be very bad if it did. How many times do I have to repeat this?
I'm in Zone 5 and not going to be moving for some time, the area is very lucrative for me. what I was suggesting was an alternative to normal Sieges, which it seems is already being planned.
Orem, at least I have kicked some life into this forum. To paraphrase a Terry Pratchett book, 'If not me then who else?' Sometimes old ideas need a bump, cause they just might end up giving others ideas about them, or even something entirely different.
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The one major thing I see that has to be re-worked is expos. There's not enough monsters to support a server size larger than 5000 active players. |
I very much doubt that we have 5,000 active players, more likely it's under 4,000. There are 17972 accounts on the server. The first player with more than 1 point is at 2904. Unless it takes a very long time to get that first point then almost all of those 15,068 with one point are dead. There might even be less than 3,000 active players. At the moment I'm on 17 points and still wading through a lot of dead accounts, and some dead Clans too. There are so many dead accounts I haven't had to even think of hitting a live one yet.
Unfortunately even for 3,000 players the number of monsters is very low. It needs increasing again at least. If we did have 5,000 active players then it would be a nightmare.
I also agree that people and blood loss during an attack should be on the same percentage.
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Oh my christ, what is this? a one man army attempt to revamp the whole game?
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And why not? Because you are satisfied with what's there?
The game does need a revamp, otherwise perhaps they should just drop Act 3?
There is a good base game here, but that doesn't mean it can't be improved on. A lot of my suggestions might be already on the way, or they might not! I'm just trying to give them a push.
You have a choice, if you prefer just don't bother reading my threads, I don't mind if you decide not to. All I ask is that, if you do read them, you do so with an open mind, not an entrenched one.
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topic has been discussed numerous time about lack of sieges can sense a warning for this |
As I pointed out nothing much can be done about it. I was using it as an opener, not a subject in itself.
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The only real alternative is to smash the Clan system, have no Clans at all. |
WHAT? What about expos? Randomly opponents? So, if a lvl 25 enter the arena he can get an mob as strong as The Anubis?
Well, I liked the idea of the arena, and different monsters, but no clans? What? That would destroy the whole game system my friend. |
Helps to read the rest of the paragraph. I most certainly don't want the Clan system dropped.
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Unfortunately I and everyone else likes the Clans almost as they are. You didn't really believe I thought this was an option? |
As Lysandra says getting rid of the Clans is a very bad idea - and I agree.
BTW, thanks for pointing out that this is one thing they are actually going to be doing already.
Unfortunately I can't force one, the first act my Clan Leader would do is abandon it, and warn me, if I'm lucky. The second, if I tried again, would be to quite rightly kick me for disobeying.
There are quite a few people in Zone 4 that want to attempt to move to 3 but the Clan Leaders say no. You can't do anything about that.
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1 there aren't many
2 the ones that are done are almost inevitably arranged swaps or against dead accounts/into empty spaces.
That makes the game rather more dull than it should be and the present Clan system seems to be a real issue in this. Clan leaders are very reluctant to hit other clans. Why?
Because the individual Clans don't stand alone, they have formed alliances. That means you might attack a weaker clan and have it's big buddies dump all forms of hell on you. Chances are your clan might, through others, be unknowingly an ally of the one you are besieging!
Problem is there aren't really many ways to cure this, unless you make some squares vastly more worthwhile than others and randomly change which ones get benefit. That isn't a good idea as it will simply make the biggest clan even better to be in.
The only real alternative is to smash the Clan system, have no Clans at all. Unfortunately I and everyone else likes the Clans almost as they are. You didn't really believe I thought this was an option?
So movement between sites isn't going to get any better in the near future and it's not worth complaining about cause the Developers are as stuck on this as everyone else.
So, bad news out the way, how about something different. An Arena? An area where Clans can enter and be pitted against a randomly selected opponent? The numbers would have to be limited due to the low average guild size, 10 per side?
Yes, it's been done in other games, but it would be new here.
A guild would not be entered unless at least half of it's membership has applied. Then the actual selection of players would be made randomly with some attempt to balance the two teams points. That might help stop 'cherry picking' the best from your guild. The system would register the equipment you are wearing and when the contest happens you would automatically be switched to that, and back again afterwards. In the mean time you would be able to use it but not sell, destroy or auction items. Blood for arcana would be removed so you can't accidentally use it.
As Guilds don't know who they will be facing and squares aren't at risk the Alliances are unlikely to be an issue. Nobody would lose PoH but the winners would gain according to the level of the opposition and their success rate. XP, Blood and Lgo would also be prizes according to the difference in team levels. The system working rather like Ambushes do.
This might end up in a Clan league table. and could be expanded so that three or more clans could fight against each other.
/dives for cover
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There is being inside the rules and harassing someone, that deserves to be stamped on whether inside the rules or not.
I agree it would make an excellent addition but with the work on Act 3 going on I don't see it getting implemented.
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