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Szeszej
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Registration Date: 02-21-2007
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80117; 89739

ID 80117
Char grimclash

ID 89739
Char zarkhir

Permanent ban for both.

As much as we allow trading between your own accounts, we still don't tolerate pushing - this ban is for the auctions of Legendary Good Shining Katana of the Autocrat (+3). During the auctions, you've made very high outbids (15-40%) and even outbid your own bid, thus increasing the price of the item and sending many additional stones to one of the accounts. This is not how a normal auction looks, especially when carried out by 1 person.

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12-14-2017 07:35

Indica
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it's a well known fact that large bid increases can stop a price rising higher than people constantly bidding on the same item. I would also like to address outbidding yourself too. Now you may or may not be aware but increasing your own bid outside of the last 30 seconds gives you a brief opportunity. If the other bidders connection is slow, by the time they try to bid and get error message saying increase must be a minimum of 5% and tadaa you've won an auction someone else was trying to bid on. Yes the price was high, but can you really put a price on a final merge piece for an item that you won't change again?

warning accepted for this post, +1 me Cool

p.s. our server is dying, this doesn't help it.

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12-14-2017 09:53

xpa
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Registration Date: 09-11-2008
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I was one of the bidders in that item and I kept going (till to high for me) cuz I wanted that item to make an agile katana of suicide. And to be honest I don't mind to bid loads of stones ( since I'd then) to get the items I want. This is true for both of my characters. It's the only way to get stuff to make what you want and improve your character.

Also sometimes I increase my bid a lot over 5% for 2 reasons to discourage the other bidders or cuz I can't be on it every second checking how it goes and I might be away when it ends.

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12-14-2017 10:15

Szeszej
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Thread Starter Thread Started by Szeszej

Both of you are partially right, but I'd like to stress that ban is not for the high price but by unnaturally increasing the price. Also the self-outbids were far from the last 30 seconds.

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12-14-2017 12:50

Ba_al
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yes i wanted to scare off other bidders as this was last item i needed
2 hand items are in high demand and very rare

been waiting over a year to get to this stage and wasnt going to loose the item

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12-14-2017 12:53

Ba_al
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quote:

Originally posted by Ba_al
yes i wanted to scare off other bidders as this was last item i needed
2 hand items are in high demand and very rare

been waiting over a year to get to this stage and wasnt going to loose the item

Legendary Perfect Demonic Katana of Suicide (+5) 12
1 052 286
( 6 / 0 / 8548 / 7342 / 2961 )

over 1 mill bs - to show you how rare and in demand these items are SZ
if your 2 hand and an item comes up you need to win it or wait months for simielr to appear again

sorry for double post

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12-14-2017 12:55

Szeszej
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Thread Starter Thread Started by Szeszej

After exchanging some PMs, I'll shorten the ban to 7 days and cut stones from both auctions.

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12-14-2017 13:28

Indica
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That's the spirit, +1 karma point to you.

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12-14-2017 13:42

CESARZ
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Registration Date: 03-09-2007
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What? So now if i put 5000 ms for start i can get ban?

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12-14-2017 16:55

Szeszej
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Thread Starter Thread Started by Szeszej

Depends, but if you have any specific questions, please PM me.

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12-14-2017 20:28

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