jamess36362
Viking
Registration Date: 03-16-2008
Posts: 546
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first take borrowed z1, then accept players who split their clan, promise players things to stay, then take para's square, then taking the square i am in.. what next before everyone leaves the game?
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10-17-2010 14:17 |
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bulldozerlf
Member
Registration Date: 02-18-2008
Posts: 28
Location: Romania , Timisoara
Race in game: Cultist
Clan: BoS
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Things promised ? I think u are feeling sick.
Thinkin they are just claming the things they owned.
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10-17-2010 14:35 |
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makavelli
Triple Ace
Registration Date: 04-19-2008
Posts: 170
Location: bristol,england
Race in game: Absorber
Clan: BOS
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for a start the z1 wasnt yours to take.we just took it bk. mortis promised me a baby and i think people are thinking about quitting because of ur constant moaning. and AN wanted to destroy squares we just want them bk.
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10-17-2010 14:37 |
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CESARZ
Lord
Registration Date: 03-09-2007
Posts: 476
Location: Poland
Race in game: Absorber
Clan: DB
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10-17-2010 14:37 |
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Sacrificer
Newbie
Registration Date: 09-18-2008
Posts: 0
Location: France
Clan: BLP
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Here is what I think about the situation:
There was a balance between clans, but anyhow Tiger_claw broke this balance in order to gather many people against BoS for some futile reasons.
Tiger_claw is actually trying to divide BoS and its allies. Unfortunately, it had the reverse effect : the unity is now stronger than before thanks to Tiger_claw.
He goes to war with BoS then cries about consequences.
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10-17-2010 14:49 |
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Cheese!!!!!!!!! :D
Double Ace
Registration Date: 12-07-2009
Posts: 112
Race in game: Beastmaster
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10-17-2010 14:50 |
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FlashAOD
Boob \o/
Registration Date: 01-06-2009
Posts: 673
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The whole game has lost morals. Nobody cares about anything but points. EVERYBODY who was in A_N iv heard will never get into other clans and all they've done is let those people back in.
THE WHOLE PLACE IS FULL OF HYPOCRITS
EDIT ;
And again with this word share.. WHY? one clan should have it not all hug each other and share between them
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10-17-2010 14:53 |
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jamess36362
Viking
Registration Date: 03-16-2008
Posts: 546
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lol. i took a_n members because no one else on server wants to help 
bos jus power driven, want bes squares, doesn't matter who they take from. its likely alot of players from HLL and i heard from v13 will delete. so might aswell say bye to server anyways.
maka = funny. you can be bought and sol easily.
@sacarficer there was balance till i borrowed z1 to mortis and he decided to keep. i was sharing z1. no one will see z1 now
only 4 or 5 player. so i am not gonna lay down to mortis and his power driven ways like eevryone else. i will fight as i usually do. and then they take 2 extra squares from us lool. they are so not respectful, jus power driven and funny.
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10-17-2010 15:20 |
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jamess36362
Viking
Registration Date: 03-16-2008
Posts: 546
Thread Starter
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Originally posted by Sacrificer
Paranoia, that name fits you well.
In BoS we DO share squares, sometimes we just have to wait or request again a fellow, but perhaps your ego is too big for such things.
It must be for the same reasons that you don't understand forgiveness and unity against a common ennemy.
Things change, so if you are unable to adapt, please don't blame others.
You are either a part of the solution or a part of the problem.
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@Tiger_claw : if you are unable to cooperate with Mortis to share z1 and then decide to go to war, don't blame us for being at war with you. |
clearly mortis has sweet talked u. i compiled a list of v13/bos/hll members who messaged me to use z1. every player on list was getting a go. there was flash and floyd yet to come. so don't tell me about sharing. mortis jus wants for him self.
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10-17-2010 15:25 |
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szczepixor
Junior Member
Registration Date: 05-23-2009
Posts: 16
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Originally posted by floydster
Looking down your clan now you have Icreed, TMB, and Kherat (who started the siege against you) who you have welcomed in with open arms. So if you can forgive and forget why can't we??
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well i had simple deal, they promised to help with mightyboshes square and i decited to help him for little help in siege. in my opinion everything is better then old allies system when every clan were ally of any other
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10-17-2010 15:28 |
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CESARZ
Lord
Registration Date: 03-09-2007
Posts: 476
Location: Poland
Race in game: Absorber
Clan: DB
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well paranoia now you have tmb square you will give him back it?
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10-17-2010 15:39 |
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Clemenza
Puki Mod
Registration Date: 03-09-2009
Posts: 164
Race in game: Cultist
Clan: BoS
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the very true story about the z1..
When MoH clan was created and the z1 was taken, we established a list to go there with people from v13, BoS and HLL. Then the war finished and we joined our previous clans. Tiger went back to HLL and when a BoS clannie turn on z1 arrived and that BoS clannie asked tiger to go to it the list miraculously had changed. When tiger was asked about the reason he answered: 'the war finished so the list is not relevant anymore'. From this point till mortis was allowed to go there the z1 was in HLL 1 month and it was being shared there all the time. mortis was 1 week in the z1 and tiger asked for it back, then mortis told tiger : 'you had it for 2 months, we will share it little bit here'. Tiger answer was : 'there's a list for it' and started the siege on z1. Then I sent clan message to my clan and asked everybody to join. The siege was cancelled close to the end 'cause tiger didn't get support even from his own clan. For that siege BoS stood as it was, with BoS members, we didn't take no one in clan. But tiger took TMB and was asking around who wanted to join his cause. During this 'Plz help me to get my square back' campaign tiger wrote vlade, cesarz, whole DB with clan message and everybody in server who was willing to help him to get his square. Vlade contacted us through Nndungu and explained that tiger asked him. Well, Vlade was put into game so we took the chance to allow him help us, why not? then happened the same with Blod. Actually I see guferrr and lako there.. seems you are collecting A_N members, it's funny how you compare us to A_N.. you started siege on DB now and I don't see the z1 there, hmm lol 
The first siege was to accomplish one of your promises, give TMB his square and we took the chance to take back one former BoS square.
This actual siege is to take back chopski square, that was the one mortis swapped with you for the z1.
Tiger wrote lot of messages, those are the ones he wrote to me arguing why he could take A_N members in HLL.
Sender: tiger_claw
Message title: lol
Send date: 2010-10-13 15:58:40
like your page. funny really. i can ask, they didn;t split my clan, i didn't
hate them. use did. and u even tell lies to v13 saying i wasn't sharing the
square. yet everyone who asked got a turn. all bos is is power driven. always
have been, always will be. its sad to see u have bowed to mortis lol.
Addressee: tiger_claw
Message title: Re: lol
Send date: 2010-10-13 16:28:58
thx for admitting in a message you asked them, that's all I needed to show your
real face 
Sender: tiger_claw
Message title: Re: lol
Send date: 2010-10-13 16:30:30
everyone knows i asked them :S
u sound like a school playground child lol.
there is a difference if i ask them and use ask them. they did not split my clan. derr. the fact u can let those players in taht u hated not long ago shows what bos is about. power. no respect. no friends. i hope use are happy.
The difference between your sharing and ours is that my clan don't have to ask me for it. Everybody who is allowed to go there will go.
And I'm fed up of you all using diablo name to your profit. That's what diablo thought about the z1 zone 1
@paranoia you seem to forget when you were about to get a z3 square on BoS you decided to go AFK for a long time. Just in case I remind you it
/edit: sorting mistakes
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This post has been edited 3 time(s), it was last edited by Clemenza: 10-17-2010 15:44.
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Endonium
Member
Registration Date: 10-02-2010
Posts: 49
Location: Latvia
Race in game: Absorber
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This is just silly.
To be honest, I refuse to take sides, I'm done with the politics in this game.
My ONLY opinion here is that in a game called bloodwars, the law of the strongest applies.
So, I don't want to make any enemies, only friends, and for that reason, it's not my place to decide if tiger or mortis is right.
What I can say is that maybe it's the developers of this game you should turn to and point a finger at for not thinking through the concept of a single z1 square in a game that's nearly 3 years old and has players of a level so huge that it's clearly not enough.
Simple economics apply here. A theoretic model of supply and demand, as well as rising prices (inflation), and rising of the GDP per capita (quantity of stones, crazy equipment, pop and poh per person) explain a lot in regards to this crisis.
Time for the asset bubble to blow. I hope one of the devs here has an economic background, that might help them understand this, because it might be what saves the monetary value of their game.
So all be allies in the face of danger. And this danger in my opinion is not coming from any player on the server. It's coming from a sudden drop in value of what you've all invested in over the past 3 years. But nothing is to say it can't regain that value or maintain it stable.
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10-17-2010 15:41 |
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kobruk
Junior Member
Registration Date: 08-17-2007
Posts: 17
Location: UK
Race in game: Cultist
Clan: The Fluffs
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I've been BoS since early 2007. Spent spells helping V13 when it first started up, and have spent time helping other clans or visiting many others, including DB and HLL (where I now reside).
Like many I won't stay much longer, I'm sick of the number of good people who have been driven from the game which is quite tragic really.
I've been on both sides of the fence, and don't really care about the Z1 (and for the record there were more than 2 or 3 people who helped build the square) as I won't see any use from it as won't most of the server. My only issue in support of HLL's plan for sharing the square is that it benfits more people, however, this is Bloodwars and has, for many years, been ruled by the strongest players and clans.
That said, people tend to only see in black and white, not the big picture. My personal feelings are only relevant to me and I will keep them that way other than to say thank you to select people who know who they are, if you are leaving soon you'll be missed 
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by kobruk: 10-17-2010 15:48.
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10-17-2010 15:43 |
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Helldemon
Forum Ace
Registration Date: 01-21-2009
Posts: 75
Race in game: Cursed One
Clan: Hll
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Bos were my second clan after Bwych and was leader/deputy of V13 for a long time, and is pretty clear that bos is'nt the same clan it was and on a power trip. Hll taking on icreed during the a_n war is no where near the same as bos taking back nngundu, vlade, blod and now Black rose who were all key people trying to destroy are squares instead of followers. Mighty boosh, kherat, lako and now Gufeer have all come to help us defend following the 3rd takeover seige from you even though u said you did'nt want a war. Now people are just happy to side with them again without realising they can pretty much demand anything they like as bos can't keep the zone 1 without them. So how long till they bring up destroying squares again and all of the clans being targeted outside of bos. For chopski's square why not let him seige it instead of blod with his poorly built zone 4 if that was the intent, just say the truth u want the better built squares from us
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Apollo
The Light
Registration Date: 03-31-2008
Posts: 412
Location: England
Race in game: Beastmaster
Clan: Source/TFE
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It seems some people need to grow up a bit tbh...
Let's refresh our memories shall we:
A_N vs Underworld
Now, was it just BoS and HLL who took back the z1? No
Was it just BoS and HLL that guarded the z1? No
Is it just BoS and HLL that shared the z1? Yes
How strange... the be all and end all is that the square would still be with A_N without the efforts of: Source, Coven, B.I.A, V13, Clockers... And the reward we get for helping reclaim the square? We get to listen to you lot being completely childish and petty.
"Oh no I don't get to get another go in zone 1 boo hoo..."
At least you've been there!
I completely agree with Kobruk this game is being ruined by your bitchiness and I don't see myself playing for much longer if it continues tbh. I used to look at those seige reports with pride and feel good at the way we bonded together to defeat the tyrannical A_N. Now though I see a bunch of arguing cowards who can't learn to share (that's both sides)
And the fact that Blod, Vlade, Nndungu and TheMightyDousche are accepted back into the top clans with open arms disgusts me, how long before Vlade and Blod are back in the z1? Seems like there wasn't alot of point standing up for ourselves against A_N now was there? The opinion now of BoS and HLL in the eyes of the rest of the Underworld are selfish, childish and honourless and I am SO glad that my clan has not stooped to your level...
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Foxy
Viking
Registration Date: 05-02-2009
Posts: 582
Location: Wales
Race in game: Absorber
Clan: BOS + S.S.
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Originally posted by Apollo
How strange... the be all and end all is that the square would still be with A_N without the efforts of: Source, Coven, B.I.A, V13, Clockers... And the reward we get for helping reclaim the square? We get to listen to you lot being completely childish and petty. |
And also destroyd Clockers, after most left for BOS
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[20:01] <Foxy9> really? not mortis or grind?
[20:02] <stimpuki> mortis is to old now and grind is hll
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10-17-2010 16:12 |
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Mortis
Emperor
Registration Date: 05-01-2007
Posts: 1,159
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
Race in game: Absorber
Clan: BoS exLead
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As this is turning offtopic and reminds more flamewar than talk I will just use some quotes to end this useless topic.
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Originally posted by diablo
Do you want it? Try to get it! Work for it, don't just expect another z1 to magically appear out of nothing.
Zone 1 is a privilege and everyone in BoS worked VERY hard to get it where it is at the moment. In fact, it is one of the best squares on the server, cause we all spent millions of lgo, tons of blood and a few nations worth of people. Tell me, how would you build the Church?! You just see it as a source of PoH, nothing else and that is quite sad... Go organize a siege!!! Find a way around it! Work! Do something! Whining is not what got you to the point where you are now.
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Originally posted by diablo
Clans still interact, for example BoS and V13 
just not on wars. In war, there is always a losing side, but in peace, everyone can benefit. Not that I would mind to fight, I'd love to! But, this way we all just grow quicker...
Not happy with the situation? Fight for a change
Go tiger!
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lol but use are allies. look at the old days. db vs bos. coi vs db. i can remember several big wars. some of the db and bos wars i was involved in where immense. the set ups iintertwining was great.
all i see now is bos just gonna move up ranks and take up top 10 in time lol.
but i shall not stop, war will prevail and we shall win (this might take a few years) lool.
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Originally posted by Mortis
we worked hard for it and we are really not obliged to share with anyone.. especially for free.. this is Blood Wars not kindergarten, so if you want it then come and try to take it..
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Originally posted by diablo
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| Originally posted by franz On that note, I wouldnt mind BoS lending out their square to another clan
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How have you helped building it? Let me think....hmmm....no you didn't! So by what right do you even suggest that we should give up our hard work?
My conclusion: Do you want zone1? Try to take it! |
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Originally posted by Hespera
Everyone wants peace, love and let's all be friends and never take a square and only do expos.
Since this became a time of peace I've seen Diablo offer help to people in different ways but they really don't owe anyone the square since it was BoS built.
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Originally posted by Evangelion
This thread is pointess. The Z1 was made to be something to compete for. Nobody owns it, one player occupies it, there's nothing more to it...
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