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I don't really remember making any promises and especially false promises.

selective memory is ftw.


You take comments as promises?

They use words such as 'may', 'could', etc. If people took every statement in life like this as true, life would be a different place!

It is so ridiculous how this server is acting towards act 3 and other things, acting in a manner as if the devs are doing us a disservice...

If we get act 3... it will be a treat. It will come WHEN it comes, IF it comes.

What right do we have to complain??

They have told us they are working on the next act. What more do you guys want? Premature release, so that it is not 100% and is a complete failure?

Or you could just let them work on it and give us a good start on act 3. [there may be additional updates needed, i do not expect it to be perfect.]


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I know everything about act 3 weapons.
We gunners will all have prefix and suffixes on weapons too so we'll be able to get
2x PERFECT CARING UBER LEGENDARY LEGENDARY SKORPIOS OF SUICIDE and farm every player and mob in this server. That will be great.

The only problem is that someone is predicting a RL end of the world for 2012 so there are chances nobody will see act 3. Furthermore it seem the date someone devined in the context was wrong, I calculate the true one could be 18/02/2025. And fact are giving me reasons as 18/02/2011 was a totally fake date unless you can prove the opposite lol
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I saw a dream about it (no no I'm not obsessed)
There was new contest part 3 called blood something and picture was real bloody and it was when act3 came , but ye just a dream , tho would be cool if it would be like that

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I reeeeeeally hope they dont ruin it by using the word "Uber" before legendary


Epic would be nice;D


Epic Ak-47 ;D

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I reeeeeeally hope they dont ruin it by using the word "Uber" before legendary


Epic would be nice;D


Epic Ak-47 ;D


New types could be legen ... wait for it and I hope your not lactose intolerant because the other word is ... dary
That would be just AWESOME

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OK, you got one promise out of me - if there is a new prefix for items and it's not going to be "uber" Smile

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OK, you got one promise out of me - if there is a new prefix for items and it's not going to be "uber" Smile


Hellz yea it's not Cool but seriously we all know something is coming. But is there any time scale or anything you can give?
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OK, you got one promise out of me - if there is a new prefix for items and it's not going to be "uber" Smile


Well that is pretty good news... and as you have said that you have also promised us that something new is coming Big Grin

I dont expect a timeframe because (using a phrase from another game i play) "it will be out when its done and not before"

But a very loose timeframe would be great....

eg whithin the next 6months etc

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Timeframe : Within the coming times.

That sounds vampire like and accurate.

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OK, you got one promise out of me - if there is a new prefix for items and it's not going to be "uber" Smile


I am really hoping this is a prefix for all of either weapon/armor and not just +Legendary.
Can be a little top heavy at times if you know what I mean. I get mauled by just about any1 because I am at level 45 and so many high level members can attack me. Giving them a better way to kill me and stay on top wouldn't be very nice...

Let's just hope this "If there" prefix affects all

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"The Fabled Legendary Perfect 2-Handed Sword of the Alexandrians..."

We can all dream Smile

I think a new suffix will add a whole new element into the game... however i would personally look towards either a legendary suffix, or just a new set of pre+suffixes for all items.

E.g. 4 new pre/suff/both-ixes onto normal items, as well as 1-2 ranged prefixes & some pre-suff for the guns.

But hey ho, they devs will add up pros & cons & churn out something interesting Smile


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i hope they sort 2handed guns out since we got the short end of the stick out of every legendary class.
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i hope they sort 2handed guns out since we got the short end of the stick out of every legendary class.


... LMAO ..

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two-handed guns - 1 additional attack and damage increased by 20%


you reeeeally got the short straw getting an extra attack and damage increased by 20%.. you really trying to say thats the worst weapon loss in A2? i see 1H melee getting screwed the most, guns have no pre / sufx so they are ALOT easyer to do than 1H melee
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i hope they sort 2handed guns out since we got the short end of the stick out of every legendary class.


pfft try a -45% critical hit chance on this 2h guns Tongue

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as i read on polish forum - operator or moderator wrote - it s possible that a3 will be on BW till Holiday. but "possible" is not what i wanted to read

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Ok. And by hooliday you mean? easter? Midsommer? Halloween? Thanksgiving? X-mas?

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ok lets have a look who got the biggest disadvantage

two-handed guns - 1 additional
attack and damage increased by
20%,
one-handed guns - increased
base chance to hit by x 1.35,
damage increased by 30%,
one-handed melee - increased
chance for critical hit by 10%,
increased chance to dodge by
5%,
two-handed melee - increased
chance for critical hit by 25%,
increased base chance to hit by x
1.25,
ranged - damage increased by
15%, increased chace to hit by x
1.30, chance for critical strike
decreased by 45%.

Now the stuff for snipers to get extra attacks takes our crit away ranged gets lots of attacks anyway

same for one handed guns lots of attacks and you dont need crit

two handed melee just get lengendary and you sorted

one handed melee now you can dodge most things and have crit more

but most important ALL your weapons are usable

we snipers have lost our damage our percption and basic usefullness in genaral
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ok lets have a look who got the biggest disadvantage

two-handed guns - 1 additional
attack and damage increased by
20%,
one-handed guns - increased
base chance to hit by x 1.35,
damage increased by 30%,
one-handed melee - increased
chance for critical hit by 10%,
increased chance to dodge by
5%,
two-handed melee - increased
chance for critical hit by 25%,
increased base chance to hit by x
1.25,
ranged - damage increased by
15%, increased chace to hit by x
1.30, chance for critical strike
decreased by 45%.

Now the stuff for snipers to get extra attacks takes our crit away ranged gets lots of attacks anyway

same for one handed guns lots of attacks and you dont need crit

two handed melee just get lengendary and you sorted

one handed melee now you can dodge most things and have crit more

but most important ALL your weapons are usable

we snipers have lost our damage our percption and basic usefullness in genaral


I hope your joke was meant as a joke ...

Because there is nothing more powerful than a legendary sniper in the game right now except if your name is Cezarz and you have a crazy collector's build....

In terms of expos, whatever the mob, a legendary sniper will always do the trick ...

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Ok. And by hooliday you mean? easter? Midsommer? Halloween? Thanksgiving? X-mas?



i mean summer

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Originally posted by darc
ok lets have a look who got the biggest disadvantage

two-handed guns - 1 additional
attack and damage increased by
20%,
one-handed guns - increased
base chance to hit by x 1.35,
damage increased by 30%,
one-handed melee - increased
chance for critical hit by 10%,
increased chance to dodge by
5%,
two-handed melee - increased
chance for critical hit by 25%,
increased base chance to hit by x
1.25,
ranged - damage increased by
15%, increased chace to hit by x
1.30, chance for critical strike
decreased by 45%.

Now the stuff for snipers to get extra attacks takes our crit away ranged gets lots of attacks anyway

same for one handed guns lots of attacks and you dont need crit

two handed melee just get lengendary and you sorted

one handed melee now you can dodge most things and have crit more

but most important ALL your weapons are usable

we snipers have lost our damage our percption and basic usefullness in genaral


yes are we forgetting snipers ignore 100% of the defence Frown ? us rangers have to hit through defence and toughness, plus your attacks have far greater damage each hit and your chance to hit only relies on a single stat...instead of both...and we have a limit on our damage no stat increasing damage for us Frown

you havn't lost any perception Tongue and good snipers are by far the best at expo's(well excluding stupid cesarz builds Tongue )

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quote:
Originally posted by darc
ok lets have a look who got the biggest disadvantage

two-handed guns - 1 additional
attack and damage increased by
20%,
one-handed guns - increased
base chance to hit by x 1.35,
damage increased by 30%,
one-handed melee - increased
chance for critical hit by 10%,
increased chance to dodge by
5%,
two-handed melee - increased
chance for critical hit by 25%,
increased base chance to hit by x
1.25,
ranged - damage increased by
15%, increased chace to hit by x
1.30, chance for critical strike
decreased by 45%.

Now the stuff for snipers to get extra attacks takes our crit away ranged gets lots of attacks anyway

same for one handed guns lots of attacks and you dont need crit

two handed melee just get lengendary and you sorted

one handed melee now you can dodge most things and have crit more

but most important ALL your weapons are usable

we snipers have lost our damage our percption and basic usefullness in genaral


I hope your joke was meant as a joke ...

Because there is nothing more powerful than a legendary sniper in the game right now except if your name is Cezarz and you have a crazy collector's build....

In terms of expos, whatever the mob, a legendary sniper will always do the trick ...


sniper sucks Wink one handed and 2 handed is better by far. yeah 2 handed can do most things. but damage is limited. defense is low. attacks are limited. can 2x sniper 2 man sphinx? not likely. i was a sniper. then got to the point where can't be improved. i weent assassin. much better. smashed my damage by miles without legendary. if you managed to get legandary then wow tahts awesome. but one handed did not need much of a boost. its not hard to get 340 agility and dodge alot of mobs.. in future player will get 370 agility, not too hard and they will 2 man basilisk by dodging.
2 handed, awesome damage. bk can 2 man alot of stuff. on my account before could 1 man sphinx and arachne. no sniper can do that Tongue

anyways on topic. summer? serious? please update this if correct.
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no it wasnt a joke. There is no sniper ingame can solo a big mob if we lose our crit we do no more damage than one hit of a one handed gun user. Sniper only good at entry lvl wow we get extra one shot and 20% extra dam i get hit by a 2handed melee and in one hit does more damage than i can do in a round or most snipers in a round. They have killed off snipers ingame

We lost our high perception to 1 handed guns

We lost our damage to every class

Summer is a long time to wait they should have had the comps closer to the release date.
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no it wasnt a joke. There is no sniper ingame can solo a big mob if we lose our crit we do no more damage than one hit of a one handed gun user. Sniper only good at entry lvl wow we get extra one shot and 20% extra dam i get hit by a 2handed melee and in one hit does more damage than i can do in a round or most snipers in a round. They have killed off snipers ingame

We lost our high perception to 1 handed guns

We lost our damage to every class

Summer is a long time to wait they should have had the comps closer to the release date.


I love the way all snipers assume you have to use a sniper rifle......

ITS NOT THE ONLY GUN

go with the norm and then go "baaaaa" Smile

on topic....

I WANT MY ACT3 NOW so i can finally get a decent bloody 1h weapon

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quote:
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no it wasnt a joke. There is no sniper ingame can solo a big mob if we lose our crit we do no more damage than one hit of a one handed gun user. Sniper only good at entry lvl wow we get extra one shot and 20% extra dam i get hit by a 2handed melee and in one hit does more damage than i can do in a round or most snipers in a round. They have killed off snipers ingame

We lost our high perception to 1 handed guns

We lost our damage to every class

Summer is a long time to wait they should have had the comps closer to the release date.


I love the way all snipers assume you have to use a sniper rifle......

ITS NOT THE ONLY GUN

go with the norm and then go "baaaaa" Smile

on topic....

I WANT MY ACT3 NOW so i can finally get a decent bloody 1h weapon


isn't the actual tattoo designed to not be used with a sniper rifle?

i mean look at one tattoo...what would be the point of an extra 20% ignore defence when you already ignore 100%


as for 2h meele doing so much more damage couldn't you get 4-6 attacks with a legendary shotgun, 300 defence and destroy them?

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no it wasnt a joke. There is no sniper ingame can solo a big mob if we lose our crit we do no more damage than one hit of a one handed gun user. Sniper only good at entry lvl wow we get extra one shot and 20% extra dam i get hit by a 2handed melee and in one hit does more damage than i can do in a round or most snipers in a round. They have killed off snipers ingame

We lost our high perception to 1 handed guns

We lost our damage to every class

Summer is a long time to wait they should have had the comps closer to the release date.


I love the way all snipers assume you have to use a sniper rifle......

ITS NOT THE ONLY GUN

go with the norm and then go "baaaaa" Smile

shotgun damage could never be as good as 2 handed plus hard to hit alot of mobs using high defense and shotgun. perc is problem. i used that also. snipers path sucks. but it is possible to use a leg p+1 leg ak. could get around 10-11 attacks. if you can get the crit up with p+1 solar then thats dangerous equip.. but still other paths are uch better.
but if it really is summer we gotta wait then i am going on a long vaccation Tongue

on topic....

I WANT MY ACT3 NOW so i can finally get a decent bloody 1h weapon


isn't the actual tattoo designed to not be used with a sniper rifle?

i mean look at one tattoo...what would be the point of an extra 20% ignore defence when you already ignore 100%


as for 2h meele doing so much more damage couldn't you get 4-6 attacks with a legendary shotgun, 300 defence and destroy them?
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quote:
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Originally posted by darc
no it wasnt a joke. There is no sniper ingame can solo a big mob if we lose our crit we do no more damage than one hit of a one handed gun user. Sniper only good at entry lvl wow we get extra one shot and 20% extra dam i get hit by a 2handed melee and in one hit does more damage than i can do in a round or most snipers in a round. They have killed off snipers ingame

We lost our high perception to 1 handed guns

We lost our damage to every class

Summer is a long time to wait they should have had the comps closer to the release date.


I love the way all snipers assume you have to use a sniper rifle......

ITS NOT THE ONLY GUN

go with the norm and then go "baaaaa" Smile

on topic....

I WANT MY ACT3 NOW so i can finally get a decent bloody 1h weapon


isn't the actual tattoo designed to not be used with a sniper rifle?

i mean look at one tattoo...what would be the point of an extra 20% ignore defence when you already ignore 100%


as for 2h meele doing so much more damage couldn't you get 4-6 attacks with a legendary shotgun, 300 defence and destroy them?


300 defence??? well tattoo max is 220 ^^ "ok ok 220 + toughness "tattoo limits: 50/120/50"

Legendary Good Shotgun (+5)
Two-handed gun
Damage: 61 - 112
Effects: Chance to hit +27, attacks per round: 3, chance for critical hit +47 %, ignores 50 % of your opponent`s defence, overall weapon damage +20 %
Requirements: LEVEL: 48 (57), STRENGTH: 44 (52), AGILITY: 27 (32), PERCEPTION: 37 (44), INTELLIGENCE: 27 (32), KNOWLEDGE: 42 (49), Your character must be in act: 2
Value: 74 550 Lgo
Value: Nanites 4011, Mana 766

so it's 3 attacks...u want more get speed.... cool but where is your critical then?> "tattoo has +25% crit +47% from gun -62% from speed = 10%"
Good Suit of Speed (+5) chance for critical hit with guns -62 %

u take solar hmmm nice there goes your 300 defence "u are left with toughness only"

and 300 def = -150 dmg common mine 39lvl BK can almost get thru that equipment
damage: 2× 114 - 136 good Murderous mace (+1)
STRENGTH: 53
+13 dmg from armor

and which lvl u need 2 get 300 defence and +4-6 attacks whit shotgun....

so lets say u do 3x300 dmg "all crits" it's 900 dmg....3x400 = 1200 dmg

"heh good luck with that equipment"

im sure any higher 2xmelle with normal "standard" equipment will say "erm what was that all about?"

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now this i got from friend
200 def "kk quest gear" vs 10k hp 2h melle

over in 3 rounds with 3x400 shotgun u get 3x3x400=3600
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now back to subject

so what we know about update is:

-we get new suffix or prefix "MAYBE"

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and that is it...which is confirmed ???....

all rest are speculations???

date of release ????
act 3 ????
new race ????
new arcana ????
new items ????

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and 300 def = -150 dmg common mine 39lvl BK can almost get thru that equipment
damage: 2× 114 - 136 good Murderous mace (+1)
STRENGTH: 53
+13 dmg from armor

Almost makes a big difference Tongue
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=401bdeff32
and I haven't reach my defence limit yet. Even if you can get through you would have to chew through hp, and that's not always possible.
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Legendary Good Shotgun (+5)
Two-handed gun
Damage: 61 - 112
Effects: Chance to hit +27, attacks per round: 3, chance for critical hit +47 %, ignores 50 % of your opponent`s defence, overall weapon damage +20 %
Requirements: LEVEL: 48 (57), STRENGTH: 44 (52), AGILITY: 27 (32), PERCEPTION: 37 (44), INTELLIGENCE: 27 (32), KNOWLEDGE: 42 (49), Your character must be in act: 2
Value: 74 550 Lgo
Value: Nanites 4011, Mana 766

so it's 3 attacks...u want more get speed.... cool but where is your critical then?> "tattoo has +25% crit +47% from gun -62% from speed = 10%"
Good Suit of Speed (+5) chance for critical hit with guns -62 %

u take solar hmmm nice there goes your 300 defence "u are left with toughness only"
Snipers get bonus attack from tatoo, instead of solar, you can use vengeful set of jewellery, of you can use legendary Fn-Fal or Ak-47(which is correct chocie for high level bunkers), so armor of speed isn't necessary.

Snipers don't need an exceptional buff in a3, players do xD

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Snipers don't need an exceptional buff in a3, players do xD


reodude

not exactly a tank but it goes to show what other types of setup you can get if you dont cry and follow the norm....

Imagine him at level 90ish Wink

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not sure why my comment never appeared but my idea for snipers is to try:
leg ak at p+1. use p+1 solar. p+1 bandanna, cape (elvish), p+1 kilt of shepherd. should give you 10-11 attacks. if crit is maintained then huge damage. More than one handed if done properly. on mob monsters im not sure if it works but worth a try. i know in combat you will kill alot of ppl. possible to hit crits of 350 with ease. if max crit. then likely to do around 3000-3500 damage. or you could use twisted, or vengeful set and get huge rep.
but it does not matter at alllllll, the damage if high means defense is low, if defense is high then damage is low.
can't compare to 1 handed damage and 1 hnded melee can dodge also if they smart...
causeihad can do good damage on arachne and dodge...
2 handed melee can have huge defense and damage at same time. so yeah sniper sucks and anyone who says different is mad. The only one benefit it has is it can hit higher mobs such as anubis etc with ease. but by the time your level 98 you can hit anubis anyways and deal damage.
I think if any paths are limited then its one handed guns and 2 handed guns. Melee and range has many more advantages..
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but most important ALL your weapons are usable
we snipers have lost our damage our percption and basic usefullness in genaral


???? what is so good in -45% ctrits for ranged??

if you use something else that heavy crossbow then you must have it at perfect +3 for reaction suffix to equal it to 0... or at P+5 to have it at -20% crits... in final width all tattoo you have 15% criticals at P+5 ranged item

so i don't think the 2hG are most disadvantaged...
like a ranged i can hit but i don't do any damage, the gunner can hit and do 100% damage plus 80% crits

i don't see no disadvantage in 2hg....

width 2HM - there are some big difference... but we must remember that is very hard to rise a 2HM - compared to a 2HG...

easy at beginning hard in final; hard at beginning easy at final ... there must be a compromise...

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any news on any upcoming patches/updates/act 3 etc?

Things are a tad stagnant and the hope of getting an update is fading...I know specifics and exact dates aren't ever given but a little bit of hope that things might liven up in the not too distant future would be really welcome...

edit: thanks Undivisible

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Konrad wrote, that there's a high possibility it may be implemented before summer vacation, they want to add some interesting stuff that may be a bit more complicated and require more effort than it appeared to be.

EDIT: here's his post: http://forum.bloodwars.interia.pl/thread...547#post6595547

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