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DemonDude2
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1. Not told before hand how game changing gender can be.
2. Its so insanely IMBA
3. Makes no sense:
-- Why cant a female post apocaliptic blood crazed murdering vampire not wear a tailcoat or a bandana?
-- In what world cant a male wear a headband?
-- Never mind one in which you can walk around wearing just a crown, a cape (with no other chest clothing) and a kilt .... yeaaaa... thats a lot of skin on show
Fair enough its cool to have it... but limiting the bonuses to gender is wrong, the way its set now, its a game breaking system.
e.g. Female snipers are boned in the backside! Headband defence bonus is useless mid game, maybe better when you move off snipers to ak or w/e but even then wouldnt they prefer the damage?
Ok yea you can say that females should just pick another tattoo that the headband works better for? Yea thats an .... awkward way to work things.
Yup... they could restart and change race if their that determined, as their is no premium option!
Thats all a waste of player time and bores players resulting in people leaving the game. Their is only 3 fixes in my mind:
Add another set of gender locked items to each gender for the bonus theyre missing, so a damage for female head and a armour for male head etc etc
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Add a premium option to change race
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Remove the gender locked items!
Really... it needs to be done lol, theirs just no common sense behind your decision other than "We made code for gender specific items - so were using it" .....
Opinions, comments, anger? Reply please.
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10-17-2012 20:49 |
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Hyperion
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personally i would love to use a headband :/ the defence ignore for my 2h would be brilliant against everyone now who seems to be getting 500+ defence......i would also like to be a bm extra attack and all
forunately it wont happen 
keep them as they are....good to have these differences
get over it!
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10-17-2012 21:11 |
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FlashAOD
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I agree with FT. Since 2007 this server has been here. Not once have i heard anybody complain about this before?
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10-17-2012 22:18 |
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FlashAOD
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There not a bad way your just not looking at it the right way. Attack a BK when you have no defence ignore.. Id rather have 20% to ignore the defence to make my damage higher as they have HUGE defences when you get higher.
Even some Hunters / Collectors.
Perfect Kilt (+1)
- damage of all weapons increased by 1 for every 4 char levels, defence increased by 1 for every 4 char levels
Perfect Skirt (+1)
- damage of all weapons increased by 1 for every 4 char levels
Only difference between those 2 is men's give defence. Which isnt always great, it can really screw up tattoos if they have a max def your working to.
Perfect Cape (+1)
- damage of all weapons increased by 1 for every 4 char levels
Both can wear a cape so it doesnt matter.
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10-17-2012 23:49 |
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acidic
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i think there should be an option to change race
option should cost 120 days of premium and be limited to 1 change per account to keep the balance in the game
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10-18-2012 22:54 |
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acidic
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Originally posted by Firetrap
If you should be able to change race it should be allowed anytime before level 75
Not at any point in the game
Change gender wouldn't be a bad thing |
but then that wouldnt be fair, if it was bought in to effect say in a months time, all those players over level 75 wouldnt be able to use it
ive known guys level 80+ quit and restart because there race isnt working out, mostly its been cursed ones, but theres been a few others as well
i cant talk for the whole server, but i know if i was given the option as a gunner, id go cultist for the first 70-80 levels, then switch to absorber, the searing would now longer be needed and the arcana from the absorber would allow me to wear a better armour with more damage and more set attacks
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10-19-2012 13:25 |
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darc
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have you looked at the diffrence in perc between a headband and bandanna
Perfect Headband of Precognition CLOSE
Helmet (Only for females)
Defence: 16
Effects: ignores 10 % of your opponent`s defence, APPEARANCE +21, PERCEPTION +45, chance to hit with melee weapons -74
Requirements: LEVEL: 56 (85), STRENGTH: 41 (62), APPEARANCE: 28 (42)
Value: 78 750 Lgo
Value: Nanites 959, Mana 2410
Perfect Deadly Bandanna of Precognition* (+1) CLOSE
Helmet (Only for males)
Defence: 27
Effects: minimum damage of all weapons +5, maximum damage of all weapons +8, APPEARANCE +17, PERCEPTION +34, damage of all weapons +1 for every 4 levels, chance to hit with melee weapons -73, TOUGHNESS -10, all weapons damage +14, APPEARANCE +5, INTELLIGENCE -2
Requirements: LEVEL: 82 (125), STRENGTH: 71 (10
, APPEARANCE: 28 (42)
Value: 107 850 Lgo
Value: Nanites 1397, Mana 3929
theres 11 diffrence and that not even at perfect +1 they get theres we get ours
its fine the way it is
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10-19-2012 16:56 |
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warlock619
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The extra perc means you can concentrate on higher damage prefix/suffix on other gear without losing too much perc?
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10-19-2012 22:58 |
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DemonDude2
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10-20-2012 09:15 |
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DemonDude2
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Originally posted by Paranoia
CauseIhad is currently the highest damaging assassin by a country mile and is a female char. It doesnt use suicide like the rest of the assassins on R1UK down to it having a skirt (lower defence than a kilt with the damage boost). It has a p3 tigers bandanna of adrenaline. |
A female character is using a bandana? Wow thats impressive.
Anyway.... Yes, each class has its advantages, but they are IMBA advantages as their is no other way for the other gender to get them.
Period.
That practically defines imbalanced for gods sake lol.
This started off with: Ive never heard anyone say i wish i could wear X
.... Well we already seen a few examples in this thread, i.e. FT says he would like to use a headband.
Continuing that example, other than heavy xbow theirs no other practical way to beat armor for a ranger.
So females have an ADVANTAGE over males. Were as male rangers have an advantage over low defence characters.
Thats not balanced, 1 for 1 sounds good yea, but in a game were players choose their class, the high / low defence toons are not 50/50 split.
And now your saying - but but but, look! That gender is doing really good and it doesnt have XXX
Funny, you even said they are better by a lot.... lol, yea thats balance for ya 
... why are they better? Are they using better gender items? Or are they using the generic both gender items?
Either way that example fails as it you said they are op by comparison.
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10-20-2012 10:09 |
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DemonDude2
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| Originally posted by Paranoia im sure you realise I meant headband... |
Yea i was just pointing it out para lol
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Originally posted by Paranoia
also they are not overpowered at all in comparison. The way people use them makes them seem overpowered because people are too narrow minded to use the male items to their full potential. |
Its exactly as you say, that gender speific item has boosted them to the level were other players in the same path are falling behind. So yes, they are using gear well, (grats btw) thats the aim of the game. But a male could never do that setup, ever, because its not available to him.
I started this thread saying that - your not told about all these choices when you start the game, after months and months of playing you realise... sugar.... i should be a male//female aww no 
time to change all my gear.
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Originally posted by Paranoia
If you have never seen anyone state: "I wish I could use this" then you are not talking to the people higher up in the food chain. |
Maybe you havnt read much of this thread but the last few posts, butI said ive seen this from the very start and everyone responded that they havnt.
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Originally posted by Paranoia
EDIT: for the record I would love a headband as it suits my shuriken, but would hate to lose my bandanna as i need the damage on my crossbow. |
Dude! Same lmao
But like i said in my other post,
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Originally posted by Smelly Demon Dude, needs to shower! But loves pepsi max and potatoes!!!
(*wonders if anyone will see this? lol*)
Other than heavy xbow theirs no other practical way to beat armor for a ranger.
So females have an ADVANTAGE over males.
Were as male rangers have an advantage over low defence characters with their headband.
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Originally posted by Paranoia
its all about compromise
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The player should NEVER EVER have to compromise. The "Oh i wish i could do X... but i cant" is not good! lol It SHOULD be, i want to do this... i cant do it that way... but i can do it this way... yay!
Now its like this:
Male - Shuriken for low armour | heavy xbow for high armour
Female - Shuriken for low armour | Lots of options for high armor
That in itself is IMBA.
More options for one than another.
As people have stated, differances between classes is good, i so so agree. But not one that LIMITS the players choices.
These gender bonus SHOULD be available to both sides.
I think the best option is to add more - silly things for gender bonus. i.e. ... females have a .... new ring, becasue they dont have 1:
Garter: + appearance and luck.
Not game breaking. Not as much as + rep on a signet (which isnt game breaking either, just ... imo rep is more cruicial, both are equally nice though)
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10-20-2012 10:40 |
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I completely agree with the OP, any time someone can do something that i cannot it is IMBA and must be removed or altered so that i can also do it.
I can only use 2h guns with my tattoo while others can use ranged weapons with theirs. How is that fair!? I want to be able to use ranged weapons too! This is an outrage i demand all tattoos be homogenized so everyone gets all the benefits of every tattoo and none of the restrictions, the current system is simply IMBA.
Furthermore others have innate easiness from their race or can use hp boosting arcana while i cannot, this is obviously IMBA and everyone should have access to all arcanas and race bonuses.
My girlfriend is on her period, however as a man i cannot menstrate, this is clearly IMBA and i demand the BW dev's fix this immediately.
Disclaimer: The above post was made with near lethal levels of sarcasm and before i had my morning cigarette.
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10-21-2012 11:20 |
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lol i've actually argued about a year back for something simillar about an option to change race.
what i came to realise after thinking about it is the only reason people argue for this stuff is out of laziness.
instead of trying to be innovative and think of the best to do with what you have and adapt you just want a quick fix.
if all decisions had no consequence to them and all options were open for everyone then everyone would end up with the same cookie cutter builds even more than they currently are.
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10-21-2012 13:52 |
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acidic
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Originally posted by Firetrap
I'm sure if it was imbalanced they'd be doing somet in this "balance" patch but they ain't so guess what, Gender isn't imbalanced so your argument is getting somewhat pointless and becoming spam |
the games in its 6th year and there still balancing out things like tattoos, just because it hasnt been addressed yet doesnt mean it set in stone to be perfectly balanced
your argument shot down nice and easy
the debate between para and demon, i see good points, in both sides, if players use there minds and compromise, they can become awesome, when at the same time, were the people funding the game, compromise maybe shouldnt be the only option
however, given time, the devs will discuss it im sure, and if it needs to be redone, it will be, if not, im sure it will stay as it is
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10-21-2012 23:31 |
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darc
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Ok lets put it this way in games like wow you cant use certain weapons if you take a certain class now it doesnt tell you this at the start it might not be fair but as the player you just get on with it.
Now the headband/bandanna headband more perc and ignore def. Bandanna lots more dmg when you think about it they are both balanced items for each gender they dont make you op your prefix suffix make you good not the basic item.
I would love the headband to have the bandannas dmg if it ment i got rhe ignore def but its not going to happen so we just think of diffrent ways and with enchantments you never know you might get lucky and get what you looking for
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10-22-2012 07:18 |
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Hayz_M
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strengths and weaknesses get called imbalanced all to often, i'm quite happy as it is, especially with a female character, lets fast forward a few years when chronos becomes common place on the server, in excess of 800 defence is not uncommon, now for easy maths, ignoring 20% of that is cutting it down by 160 defence. Now as a melee character, that means i've effectively gained 80 damage, for the same 80 damage gain as a male with a bandanna would require level 320, madness, i know. But if we start looking towards mobs/players with low defence, a percentage ignore defence of sod all defence makes.... sod all difference, causing the bandanna to benefit much more so in these situations.
At the end of the day it's swings and roundabouts, personally i think the game gender mechanics are fine as is, though i feel a few people may be "doing it wrong" to coin a term. Play to your characters strengths, having a female character as a bk and wanting to use elvish skirt of dodges is daft, so, you don't do it. It's no different to having a BM that isn't melee.
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10-22-2012 07:45 |
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