 [MORIA] Ban for enormous overbiding of duping auctions |
Vlade_
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http://forum.bloodwars.interia.pl/thread...hreadid=1282760
Can we expect similar actions here? There are few ppl who put 20-30-50-100-200 bs for alnmost every duping auction what i saw regularly when my clanmates were duping i.. armours
This a very good penalty (perm ban) for someone who is malicious and provides to pushing (40 to 200 x the item value).
Can i expect here only OP Szeszej answer?
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12-20-2013 08:11 |
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Evangelion
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I don't really understand the benefits from such practice so could you explain how harmful it is to the server or what kind of profit the bidder is getting?
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12-20-2013 08:27 |
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Scourge
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Its called market tactics though...
Its a war game. Market war is a real thing.
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12-20-2013 08:52 |
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Evangelion
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Not really market tactics.
From what I see, hundreds of stones are removed from the game, wasted on dupe items that pretty much never had a seller. And they're getting the seller of the actual non-dupe item in trouble for pushing.
Indeed, should be a bannable offence.
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12-20-2013 21:02 |
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| RE: [MORIA] Ban for enormous overbiding of duping auctions |
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Originally posted by Vlade_
http://forum.bloodwars.interia.pl/thread...hreadid=1282760
Can we expect similar actions here? There are few ppl who put 20-30-50-100-200 bs for alnmost every duping auction what i saw regularly when my clanmates were duping i.. armours
This a very good penalty (perm ban) for someone who is malicious and provides to pushing (40 to 200 x the item value).
Can i expect here only OP Szeszej answer?
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one thing auction was raported by seller, so why he get ban. Always when seller or buyer raporting auction nobody get ban. Buc created new law without adding it to regulations.
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12-20-2013 21:41 |
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Pops
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Ok the way i see this...
If 2 people or more want an item bad enough and keep bidding, there is no push or pull as long as it is genuine bids.
If you want to dupe, then complain when someone legitimately bids on an item, boohoo stick another one up and repeat til you have as many as you need. You dont get to call items. If theyre on auction, anyone can bid on them, end of story.
simples.
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12-20-2013 23:49 |
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Vlade_
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If we talk about duping items then everyone can dupe it on their own. There is no need to interupt others. If U do not need it and just bid to interupt others U should be banned coz U spoil the fun to others. Especially if U increas price from few bs to 30bs or higher
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12-21-2013 09:19 |
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Pops
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Its just competition. Why not just all dupe together nicely?
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Cheese!!!!!!!!! :D
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Maybe the items wouldn't go so high if you didn't bid back against a few of the people who maybe want just one or two of them items and just let a couple of people have some of the items, without them having to make a bloody appointment with the duper. 
There's always gonna be people who need a lil amount of what's being duped imo, that's why dupe items go up in price I think. :p Nothing malicious about it imo. Maybe the person bidding on them can't be bothered with a bid war over such a petty item?;p Or simply doesn't have the time like all you people duping to be able to come on and have bid wars over all the dupes that go up, so he just puts what he's willing to pay for the item on the item.
Just cause people bidding on items, in your opinion, is malicious and deserves permanent ban, does NOT mean the bidding IS malicious and deserves a ban. and even if people bidding on dupe items and paying what you consider to be a silly price do get banned, something like this certainly DOES NOT deserve a permanent ban imo. :p Especially on such a small server.
Also, have you even considered the possibility that low levels NEED these kind of items for what they wanna merge?:p There's also the language barrier with some players I guess, some of them probably don't realize that they could get in on the duping action but want the items, so they fight for it. O.o
Just throwing out some other possible perspectives, other than your narrow-minded 'oh they bidded on my items, they're pushing, I'ma try to get them banned for wasting some of my thousands of Bloodstones that are just increasing over time anyways' o.o
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Bowmore
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As someone who is currently involved in a duping project, I don't have any problem with people getting one or two of the items I am bidding on. However, if its not done by arrangement, I have no way of knowing whether they are going to fight me on every piece. If I lose all of the duplicates, then the duping process breaks down and the project I've worked hard to put together falls apart. If I don't win at least half of the pieces, then I've lost another day of duplication.
That means that if I don't know who is bidding against me and why, I have no choice but to fight for every piece. If someone talks to me, I'm happy to make arrangements for them to get a piece or two, especially if they are going to use them to start their own duping project.
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warlock619
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So we already can't bid on an item past a certain point without being banned, now they plan on perma-banning for trying to win duping items? I've been both sides of the duping process, as annoying as it can be when it breaks down because others win the items, it's still an open market? o.O Meaning anyone can bid? If someone else has the stones to compete for a duping item, then why the hell should they get banned for buying it?
This is just another tantrum I think, maybe he'll calm down when someone gives him his soother. 
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