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Cthulhu
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Auction suggestion - updated idea

Can't remember if this has been suggested before, but how about the option to remove or cancel you own bid on the auction?

A couple of reasons why this would be helpful:
- some of us are numptys & bid on the wrong things
- sometimes you've bid all your stones on an item, but then a better item gets put up on a shorter finish time

Any thoughts?

Cheers Wink

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11-02-2015 17:11

Szeszej
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I believe there's too much room for abuse

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11-03-2015 06:52

dooz
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Certainly agree with szes

1 - you auction item

2 - someone(A) bid on item
3 - you get friend(B) to bid on item, hoping to make A bid one more time on item

4 - Goto : 2

If A stops bidding, then B can cancel his bid 30 seconds? before auction ends, or if you're not satisfied with the price you then B does not cancel. Either way, sounds pretty abusive to me

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11-03-2015 09:42

Cthulhu
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Thread Starter Thread Started by Cthulhu

Hmmm, you see this is the problem with being an honest gamer - I hadn't considered the point of view of people who want to cheat! :/

Thanks anyway. Wink

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11-03-2015 17:09

Cthulhu
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Thread Starter Thread Started by Cthulhu

updated idea

ok here's a really wild idea - why not remove the option to set a reserve price on the auctions?

Reasoning:
1) it would (in my warped mind) make the auctions fairer as people couldn't set high prices for their mates to swap items, etc

2) make it more exciting for all the players rather than just the ones who are sitting on stockpiled stones

3) eliminate people setting ridiculous start prices that are not relevant to the item

Just a thought. Wink

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11-05-2015 20:49

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RE: updated idea

quote:

Originally posted by Cthulhu

Reasoning:
1) it would (in my warped mind) make the auctions fairer as people couldn't set high prices for their mates to swap items, etc

2) make it more exciting for all the players rather than just the ones who are sitting on stockpiled stones

3) eliminate people setting ridiculous start prices that are not relevant to the item

Just a thought. Wink

But then couldn't the normal people just simply bid high, if they wanted the item? It wouldn't matter the price on how low, but rather how high it can go upto...

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11-16-2015 05:34

dooz
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if i'm selling a p5 item that i spent literally thousand lifestones on. I want to be able to set a minimum price

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11-16-2015 09:08

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quote:

Originally posted by dooz
if i'm selling a p5 item that i spent literally thousand lifestones on. I want to be able to set a minimum price

This...

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11-16-2015 14:28

Cthulhu
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Thread Starter Thread Started by Cthulhu

Yeah, I get that.
Although, you could argue that if you spent 'thousands' of stones on getting that item, there's probably less chance you would sell it, and if it was that good, then the market price would push it up anyway.

My point was 'setting ridiculous prices that are not relevant'.

e.g. someone drops a Perfect Sharp Knife of Leader on a quest and then spends the next 5 weeks putting it on the auction with a reserve of 700 BS, then 500 BS, then 300 BS, and so on until it finally sells for what it is really worth....... 2 BS.

Or it is sold to someone's mate to swap stones for a price of 2 MS.

Don't believe me - check the closed auctions.

If that's not a 'push', and therefore an abuse of the system, then I don't know what is.

It is one of (many) things that have bugged me about this game - the apparent 'rules' that only seemed to be enforced when one of the dev team can be bothered.

Well that's my rant over, as usual nothing constructive will be done here. This server is dead anyway so who gives a shit.... not sure why we're still bothering to make games suggestions, there's only 50 people playing the game! Tongue

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12-16-2015 14:47

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An unreported push is a fart in a hurricane. Report it if you see it and always account for the fact sometimes people just bid dumb and it isn't all a conspiracy.

As for people with unrealistic expectations,, I refer you again to "dumb". Let them try to charge stupid for an item and just ignore them until reality finally reaches them.

Any suggestion massively open to abuse that will shred the server economy IS NOT WORTH IMPLEMENTING. Ever. No matter how much it may slightly make bidding easier for one or two players.

As for server activity, the server is more than the top two Clans. The Devs have to acknowledge that even if you don't want to so anything that's definitely going to screw lower level players is very unlikely to happen.

Edit: Converted it into something that makes sense (typed it on phone in the rain)

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