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Ranciel
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Hay why do we only have 4 races. Is there any plans for more and if not dose any one think we should?
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12-04-2007 00:07 |
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Gendibal
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4 races is a good start to a game like this ..... hell, when TSR first released the AD&D roleplay system there were only 4 races and look at that now
I think the primary focus should be on the bugs and imbalances before taking it to the next level as far as game mechanics go.
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12-04-2007 01:45 |
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GrimTale
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I think that 4 races is enough. Theres one for everyones interests [e.g. strength for beast master] so there really isn't any need for a 5th one.
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12-04-2007 09:46 |
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draculaisemo
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i think that would be a really bad idea
because, if you notice, guns are always doing better than melee, advantage being in that they have the most attacks (scorpio, ak47 etc)
so any 'gunner' race, would be at a superadvantage
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12-04-2007 16:48 |
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draculaisemo
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and zauborin has less chance of hitting.
and if youve really upgraded your gun and got tattoos and hiiiiiiiiiigh knowledge and stuff, then yeah you could do that realistically.
maybe
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12-04-2007 16:57 |
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draculaisemo
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exactly
so do the same.
=)
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12-04-2007 17:12 |
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draculaisemo
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you can beat a white dragon yes.
you can do quests
you can beat SOME people
you cant expect to win 100% of the time
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12-04-2007 18:23 |
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DarkOne
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yeah but he will only get a successful ambush in 50% of all times
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12-04-2007 18:44 |
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Ranciel
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I think a tone down Race of Gunner would be nice. But I was think about a race that fine it a litty east to both build building, meet requiments to items and gain knowlages faster, pack that with there own spell selection and pop you got new race.
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12-04-2007 19:03 |
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GrimTale
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That's where the quests become useful. Use exp. from that to put stats that'll boost your attack, or stats that'll let you upgrade bodyguard agency and such.
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12-04-2007 19:05 |
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GrimTale
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Guess all you can do it quests then.
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12-04-2007 19:34 |
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draculaisemo
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i use sniper rifle, and i beat people just fine
i decided to try melee the other day
i just lose =)
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12-04-2007 19:35 |
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GrimTale
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lol strange, beastermasters are suposed to be the best with melee with the strength boost and such
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12-04-2007 19:37 |
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draculaisemo
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point proven
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12-04-2007 19:41 |
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GrimTale
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....what point?
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12-04-2007 19:43 |
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draculaisemo
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beastmaster dont have a huge advantage by being specialized at melee
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12-04-2007 19:48 |
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GrimTale
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Yeah i guess that's true. Still, it does give an advantage for people who chose the melee path right from the beginning
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12-04-2007 19:59 |
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DarkOne
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scillage this is because there are very very few players having 50 and more points, so there are not enough targets which should be really equal to you
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12-04-2007 20:19 |
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kralen
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not nesecarily impossible it will just take time and effort to build your character. arcana from beastman is good as it adds extra 10 defence. if you stick with sniper weapon then you restrict yourself to one attack. if you swap to say fn fal or ak 47 you can do up to 600 in damage given a few criticals. swapping guns can mean the world of difference.
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12-04-2007 21:01 |
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draculaisemo
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also equipment makes a difference
i know theres not a huge range of knowledge increasing things out there, but they do exist.
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12-04-2007 21:53 |
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draculaisemo
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Seems like a selfish suggestion to me
feels like handbags o.o
i doubt therell be any new races in the foreseeable future and i cant see that there will be any need for them either
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12-04-2007 22:22 |
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Ranciel
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No but the debate on it is dam cool thank to ever one.
On a close note I think debateing things like this give the game design team time to think and just read our rambles. If we do it more offion i'm sure thay will pick some thing thay like and use it and there nothing more cool than seeing you idera's put to use. Belive me it the game were all here for.
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12-05-2007 00:02 |
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Elisabeth
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You can do 600 damage with sniper rifle.
Guns are better than melee weapon at expedition and most experience that you gain is from expedition not from ambushes.
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12-05-2007 07:55 |
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draculaisemo
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Lis already gave you your solution scillage
you won the last expedition you went on
you get pop from expeditions regularly
theres no need to make an entirely new race because you think that you cant do as much damage as the top ranking player.
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12-05-2007 10:26 |
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diablo
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Scillage whats wrong with you? You used to be one of the best gunners on this server! I see your point in having a race able to increase their perception and knowledge. On the other hand, do we want to start again? I dont. Leave your sniper rifle for expeditions only, it is useless if your opponent has 2k HP.
I use 2 one-handed guns. There is no tatoo that would grant me such benefits as you have as a sniper. You have chance to hit, increased criticals, defence ignorance and one more attack. In my opinion Sniper is one of the best tatoos in this game.
I still dont have my 'dream equipment' but I can deal some damage with my guns, so why dont you get your Fn-Fal or AK-47 and start killing others.
Generally, Snipers are good for expeditions and meele are better for ambushes.
There is no need for another race, as a Cultist I use my Blood of Life to regenerate my HP and with proper Reputation it can be 100 per round, which is like being hit one less time. I know its not much, but there is no other choice.
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12-05-2007 11:29 |
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draculaisemo
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mm, melee on an expedition is no good without a LOT of agility
...and the strength bonus is for a different race to the agility bonus
so a race with both perception AND knowledge ... would be unfair
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12-05-2007 20:34 |
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DarkOne
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ok considered there would be a 5th race what would its attributes be ?
My idea would be
10% blood points 5% perception bonus
Arcana: Increase knowledge
Increase Defence/Hit
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12-05-2007 20:52 |
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draculaisemo
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i dont think perception being a % would be a good idea...
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12-05-2007 20:57 |
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