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Cthulhu
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quote:

Originally posted by Artoir
What the hell is luck going to do in an expo?

Luck increases chance of critical...

quote:

chance for critical hit – depends on luck and items with special attribute “critical hit, also it may be increased using tattoos

...from the Tutorial. Wink

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08-28-2008 08:35

Shasu
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Rather what the hell we need a luck arcana for? Very likely to use it on quests... not

Either way, incase anyone is curious what a legendary item looks like...

an example for a legendary 2 hander...

Legendary Serrated Mace (+3)

Two-handed melee weapon
Damage: 32 - 49
Effects: Chance to hit -19, AGILITY +9, weapon damage +10, chance for critical hit with weapon +25 %, chance to hit with weapon increased by 25 %
Requirements: LEVEL: 12, STRENGTH: 20, INTELLIGENCE: 11, WISDOM: 7, Must be in act: 2

Considering the chances for these items to drop, I can't say I am overly thrilled with the prospect but well, each to their own I guess.

08-28-2008 08:53

Cthulhu
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quote:

Originally posted by Shasu
Rather what the hell we need a luck arcana for? Very likely to use it on quests... not

Well, I'm an Absorber, and I like the idea of getting extra luck if it increases my critical hits. Tongue

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08-28-2008 08:57

icecold
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so the absorber is getting another pathetic use of our blood. why can't we get something decent. maybe 1 that stops the mobs from going berzerk now that would b useful

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08-28-2008 09:16

minshres
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lol thats dam gd one icecold... us absorber defo need a arcana that comes in handy at expo

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08-28-2008 10:02

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Meh. Before I read your post Artoir I was actually thinking about staying an absorber. I thought that the 'Expo' arcama might actually help us, making clans want us to help them in expos because it would stop the mobs going beserk or something. Even if it wasn't that, I was looking forward to getting an extra attack from a beastmaster. Now I can't do that, I'm definately changing. In my eyes for a gunner, It's get changing or you haven't got a hope in hell to progress.

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08-28-2008 10:58

fool
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i suppose the chance for critical does help a bit
but 0.75% isn't a lot
the beastmasters new ability is rubbish why not with guns
although the other abiltys kinda make you be melle

08-28-2008 11:17

diablo
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And still, no patch. For how long now?

I'm curios whether Zeruel changes his race if he can't benefit drom the new arcana.

Edit: 0.75% per level, thats not bad at all.

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08-28-2008 11:42

Scillage
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quote:

Originally posted by diablo
Edit: 0.75% per level, thats not bad at all.

That arcana is only useful for non snipers. Snipers get max easily. I don't even need my tattoo bonus for max crit. And anyway, who can afford the blood to use arcana anyway?

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08-28-2008 11:50

diablo
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Then use armor of speed, it will give you one more attack, but -46% chance for criticals, then you'll need your tatoo and the new arcana as well Wink

Who can afford arcana? Everyone, especially in expos.

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08-28-2008 12:18

Shasu
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quote:

Originally posted by scillage

quote:

Originally posted by diablo
Edit: 0.75% per level, thats not bad at all.

That arcana is only useful for non snipers. Snipers get max easily. I don't even need my tattoo bonus for max crit. And anyway, who can afford the blood to use arcana anyway?

Isn't it rather a question of wanting to spend blood on it? The blood situation is tight in the upper levels but if I can be a BM I wouldn't mind spending that BPs for the 1 or 2 fights/expos/sieges where it will give the definite edge.
Quite honestly, that arcana is so overpowered it ain't even funny. And I can't really believe there are many BMs using guns/ranged, if so the next question would be "why being a BM?"
Just imagine a BM BK with some odd mace clubbing you with 5 attacks (2 mace, 1 tatoo, 1 speed, 1 arcana) ... and some people say Melee do too much damage in comparison ... well least the gap will widen now even more ;p

08-28-2008 12:26

fool
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speed can give 2
2h is realy overpowered even compared to everything else
it has high damge and critical

08-28-2008 12:36

Artoir.
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Yes diablo, that's all when and good. If you ARE a sniper. But what about absorbers that don't use guns? If a beastmaster is coming at me with two extra attacks, waving a 4 leaf clover in front of him isn't going to do much.

Why on earth did they pomp it up as Expo Arcana anyway? It's just as effective/ineffective in all areas of combat?

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08-28-2008 12:45

Evangelion
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quote:

Originally posted by diablo
And still, no patch. For how long now?

I'm curios whether Zeruel changes his race if he can't benefit drom the new arcana.

Edit: 0.75% per level, thats not bad at all.

Still some bugs are being reported on the polish servers. As soon as the Dev Team repairs the biggest bugs they will release the patch here.

And I don't think Zeruel will change his race, he's been inactive in the game for 34 days now and on polish forum he has the word "Retired" in his signature... I think that's why Scillage got his promotion Tongue

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08-28-2008 12:52

diablo
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Thanks for the info Evangelion. Finally some more specific news.

A pity, I liked the way Zeruel build his character.

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08-28-2008 13:02

God_Like_Friend
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quote:

Originally posted by icecold
so the absorber is getting another pathetic use of our blood. why can't we get something decent. maybe 1 that stops the mobs from going berzerk now that would b useful

Might be a bit late to reply but on the PL servers after implementing Patch 1,1 they stopped crazy phoenixs because they couldn't have done that here...

And BM arcanum is overpowered, like 2h melee but it relies on criticals and if you can't get them your messed because 5 attacks is all good but if you're doing 100 per that's useless*ish* Tongue

But i'm not complanining because I am a BM lol don't like it join us.

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08-28-2008 21:58

Artoir.
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Diablo you still didn't answer my question?

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08-28-2008 23:46

PureDoom01
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quote:

Originally posted by Artoir.

quote:

Originally posted by Aidensixx
[quote]Originally posted by Raxis

I'm not sure what I think of the new race, because it sorta forces you to become them if you aren't melee

lets hypothetically say im a absorber who uses guns
if i change to new race i can be even better with guns than i am now
if i stay absorber and get attacked by a beastmaster with extra attack for example or in a seige with one then ive got an extra attack with my legendary scorpios or ak 47 or anything really

I'm afraid you're most wrong Aidensixx

This is taken from the BW-Wiki:

Beast Lord
Shadow of the Beast - you gain an additional attack with every melee weapon.

maximum 1 level.
Cost - 225 bp

Only if you are an absorber using a Melee weapon, will you absorb the extra attack.

i was wondering since beast lord only goes upto lvl 1 shouldn't 1 level of silence of blood block it completely? if so thank god that's nice for us absorbers

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08-29-2008 00:07

Artoir.
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I assume so?

But what use is that? BM melee players will run wild! Thoughtcatchers and Cultists are also getting very useful arcana. And what can absorbers do. Either block or steal their arcana? Not to mention that this ability will be USELESS in expeditions, as always.

And as I stated in a previous post, this hyped up "additional expedition arcana" is attrocious compared to the others!

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08-29-2008 00:14

diablo
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Sorry Artoir, I forgot (somehow).

Just imagine you're a melee absorber and a 2h melee BM attacks you and you absorb his extra attack plus you have some more criticals. I think the arcana is a nice addition, but understand that absorbers were hoping for more. The BM arcana is just overpowered. With that, all the BM's will be able to beat me in combat, even if they are 20 levels lower Smile

The extra luck might determine what item you get from the expo. I wish I would have an criticals boosting arcana.

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08-29-2008 04:01

Artoir.
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But the extra luck could determine what I get in a quest, or what crits I get in a siege.

It was blatantly advertised as, I quote "Additional Expedition Arcana"

I just don't understand why.

If original absorber arcana remains unchanged and You only need 1 level of Power Absorbtion to gain the 2 attacks, then that's not so bad. But it still leaves us in the lurch compared to the rest of the races =/

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08-29-2008 04:37

icecold
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cause it made a talking point. lol
i can't wait for the legendary items. just think if i got me a legendary heavy crossbow of reaction. the requirements will b dropped by 30% for me Tongue

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08-29-2008 06:28

God_Like_Friend
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Artoir, to be fair you must be able to change race when the Patch is implemented so if you don't like your races arcana then change it.

I know there is advantages of being an Absorber so you must decide racial bonuses or arcanum.

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08-29-2008 08:44

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Fresh informations from Polish board:

quote:

Originally posted by SushiMaker
DodaBem uaktualnienie:

I poBowa wrze[nia
- zakoDczenie beta testów: Time Edge: Czas Wojny.
- zakoDczenie beta testów: patch 1.1.

II poBowa wrze[nia
- Start serwera hardcore.

That mean:

quote:

Updated:

1st half of september
- end of beta tests: Time Edge: Czas Wojny. (www.czaswojny.pl)
- end of beta tests: patch 1.1

2nd half of september
- new server (Polish ofc.)

The most important information there is "end of beta tests: patch 1.1". Patch 1.1 will be add to other servers (underworld too) after this beta tests! Smile

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09-01-2008 14:49

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Thanks for the info Gumis. Hopefully they will post that here somewhere too so that we know they are talking about this server. =/

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09-01-2008 15:23

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Thread Starter Thread Started by Szeszej

I can confirm this news and I'd like to add that the texts available for now are 100% translatated so when the tests finish you'll get 1.1 patch at the same time Smile

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09-02-2008 23:59

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wow :-) great man ! finally :-)

09-03-2008 00:55

Artoir.
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Excellent thanks for the update Smile

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09-03-2008 07:04

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Wooo hoooo

patch 1.1 is on its way.

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09-03-2008 14:31

God_Like_Friend
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Yay there coming we haven't waited long enough already, i'll be reviving my Rant thread if they don't work right on our server..

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09-03-2008 15:32

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I'm glad the patch is coming...

quote:

That arcana is only useful for non snipers. Snipers get max easily. I don't even need my tattoo bonus for max crit. And anyway, who can afford the blood to use arcana anyway?

You are right about the non sniper thing... I personally think it's going to be excellent for me, as a 1H gunner.... because I use some Blood point increasing stuff sometimes. and our clan armoury is packed with it...

Diablo you have to agree with me, it's almost perfect for a 1H gunner, in many respects it could balance our lack of critical... 10 levels would be 7.5% more.... + luck, I reckon it'd give me a 35% crit if I max my crit tattoo... which means that instead of one in four being a crit I owuld average one in three... and with my dream set up, that'd slay a creature or five... but the cursed ones percep arcana looks nice too

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09-04-2008 00:29

nelacar
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hmm i was wondering when the patch comes in.will the new race be available to those in both acts or is it just those in act2.

because i think its unfair if you cant pick the new race when first starting off.

if this has been covered then slap me lol.

09-04-2008 00:37

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Slap

I think it's been covered and you have to become it

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09-04-2008 00:48

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You get a choice of race when advancing to Act II I believe so you need lvl50, all pilgrimages for the Cursed One.

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09-04-2008 07:53

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quote:

Originally posted by Raxis
Diablo you have to agree with me, it's almost perfect for a 1H gunner, in many respects it could balance our lack of critical... 10 levels would be 7.5% more.... + luck, I reckon it'd give me a 35% crit if I max my crit tattoo... which means that instead of one in four being a crit I owuld average one in three... and with my dream set up, that'd slay a creature or five... but the cursed ones percep arcana looks nice too

The cultists new arcana can do more damage than 4 of my criticals (I mean, the difference between a normal attack and a critical)
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09-04-2008 11:21

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quote:

The cultists new arcana can do more damage than 4 of my criticals (I mean, the difference between a normal attack and a critical)

How would searing blood work against expo mobs though

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09-05-2008 01:16

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With a nice shamanistic set, jewellery of blood and some good bony weapons several cultists can do thousands of damage each round + their normal hits, not even a Medusa can survive such mayhem Tongue

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09-05-2008 01:40

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quote:

Originally posted by Evangelion
With a nice shamanistic set, jewellery of blood and some good bony weapons several cultists can do thousands of damage each round + their normal hits, not even a Medusa can survive such mayhem Tongue

....i wish i was a cultist...jeez. if id a known that when i joined up i woulda picked that race...ah well.
and i should really try to get lvl 50 an my pilgramages done soon...lol

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09-05-2008 01:45

Raxis
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So you are telling me that once again the Absorber has been underpowered!

On another note

quote:

Melee 2h - critical strike +25%, chance to hit *1,25

I like this... because it multiplies a negative, 2H melee could end up with massive reductions to hit chance

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09-05-2008 01:51

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That multiplier doesn't apply to the weapons chance to hit but the players. For example, you have 125 agility and a Legendary Mace. 125 * 3 = 375 chance to hit. 375 - 14 from the mace = 361.
361 * 1,25 = 451,25 that's your total chance to hit. That's a pretty nice boost from the weapon.

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