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i think that these ideas would be useufl in helping the game run through but still, if the points were limite dthen the atacking clan can send a few strong players that high really high and smash up the lower clan with a few hits.
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faceeater
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ok i understand not being able to fight them, but why should some CHEAT hold onto a square, surely you should either wipe them forever or make the square available, all hail dr greenthumb? why should he still hold a powerfull square. it seems this game wants to cling to dead memberships than encourage new ones.
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Gendibal
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Believe it or not, most of this has been covered before in some quite heated debates 
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ive not been playing too long,and im sure im getting on a few peoples nerves, but i think a few things are wrong with the game, why make money safe but not the blood, anyone who knows me knows i dont mind losing, its part of the every game to win or lose, however how clicky do you want the game to be? you have pretty much guarenteed nobody outside the top players can climb the ladder, |
Ah, the balance question ..... you may want to have a look at quite a few of the threads under 'Game System', put your ideas in there, you may come up with a few that we've missed so far
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sieges, its too uneven, why limit expos and not sieges, why not limit sieges to a lvl of points like expos, then there is no overkill, if the attacking clan has 1000 points and the lower clan has 500 points why not limit the attacking clan? |
This is a suggestion that was made quite a while ago and seemingly completely ignored by the powers that be.
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squares, why not make it harder to just take a square, if you want a square take it yourself, 1 on 1, cant take it tough, build your own up, |
This one I would disagree with, on the simple fact that it favours the players higher up the lists, the bigger you are, the better chance you have of taking the square.
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expos, there great for high lvls, but what about lower lvls, why not give a lower lvl type thing to keep the new members interested, |
Again something which has been suggested in 'Game System' with little success 
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item swapping, why not make a duel arena where you can agree a stake, ie both put an item of roughly same value in, winner takes both, |
That one goes along with the 'push/pull' tactic, which is against the rules ..... you could end up with a situation where players are deliberately losing to pass powerful items on to their friends, which would again increase the imbalance in the game.
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or i could just get another ban for being insolent |
If that were the case then I'd be permanently banned ..... hell, I'm the guy that calls the admins all the names under the sun on the forums while arguing like mad with them to try and get a point across
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shydowen
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what we need is a lot of new things putting into place...... the start outs are "ok" say upto lvl 10 or 20 but then i hear alot about the lack of much more to do than the lower lvls from around 20 to 30 or even 40..... then the game grinds to a painful crawl and even stop..... it is like a lot of games in general BUT this game seems to be taking this stagnancy to a fine art , a clean up of old inactive accounts would be a start then some fresh ideas implemented.
a new race or two ( i think that the higher lvls get this option) maybe something in the way of classes (a little more tangiable than tattoos) maybe skills ( i know these are old concepts but in a game like this i think it may work a "little" better)
Put a few more buildings or even the ability to occupy empty squares... like you have your main square that you can defend and the other sqaures you have are more weakly defended...
I don't know but something needs doing and not for just one group ( like the high lvls, low lvls polish players) but a general sweep and clean up... mind you these words fall on deaf ears it seems... but if we all stopped playing... would it make a difference???
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faceeater
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aahh so it seems that what we are saying is we wont reward the 99% of hard working honest players who pay to play, because 1% of scum might cheat? isnt that like punnishing the masses for the crimes of the few?
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aahh so it seems that what we are saying is we wont reward the 99% of hard working honest players who pay to play, because 1% of scum might cheat? isnt that like punnishing the masses for the crimes of the few? |
That's a little simplistic in scope, and I believe 1% may well be on the low side, but essentially taking away the tools that the cheats use to advance themselves to the detriment of the game is always going to have an impact on honest players.
Taking *some game* as an example (as it has been mentioned before, so at least a few of you will know what I'm on about) recently the game admins capped the value of 'free gifts' that you could give in game to clamp down on the real world currency traders (In *some game*, buying or selling money or items for real money is against the rules). Now one of my big 'things' was standing in a random bank and giving stuff away to newbies, or giving items that I didn't use away to friends ..... and the new system blew that out.
That may be an extreme case, but you can see how clamping down on the cheats will always affect others as well.
What good does arguing and discussing with the devs do? Sometimes none, sometimes a decent amount ..... granted most of the stuff that goes into the patches is from Polish servers, but some of it does come from our ideas (the more ideas that get suggested, the more chance of having them actually seen ...... hopefully).
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faceeater
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as a *some game* player, for at least 3 years now, i think the new system has ruined it, hence i started playing this, but with the amount of people quitting at the moment, it might be time to go back and spend my money there again,
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nelacar
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in orfer to keep players playin we need new things to keep it interesting.we cant rely on the devs so why dont we do something ourselves?.like once a month get a number of players from each player base high lvls mid lvls an low lvls to divide up an create 2 teams ahh light/dark just for example.each of the chosen players will create a clan so u will have say 5 clans on the side of light 5 on dark and by having clans for each player base everyone could join.we could post the results here in forum and after a week of seiges we will find out winer.?? just an idea but might work
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Azz420
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i quit *some game* over 2 years ago, too many beggers after my phats 
played several other good mmorpgs for a while then graphic card packed in
then found this game and a few others
and now play only PBBGs and this is the only one that i pay to play
i will soon be getting a new PC
and an orange box so i might not be about as much for a few months
but i will still play this game as there is so much left undone......
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I used to be a millionaire on *some game* (a Flash based, French stylish 'Tactics' style turn based game, fantastic in the early free stages but drags into the level 50s) but it became a chore to play and after a long break I came back to find no friends there. Works on any PC or Mac and is well worth a blast.
I stopped playing this for 2 months and only came back as an Office worker (Papacy...) had started a new clan and wanted a high level to help promote it. Then his cpu broke and COTU kind of died a bit. And I stuck around... ( but have another long vacation coming up.)
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People please stop posting other games.
I don't feel like quitting.
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Posts containing games names had been censored. From now on every post containing a game name other than Blood Wars will be rewarded with a warning.
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shydowen
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free gifts are ok but does that really enhance the game? it's like trying to paper over a dirty great hole in the wall and hope everyones so busy looking at the paper that... well you get the idea, it might be nice but would i think unbalance the game even more.
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Gendibal
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Thats why the auction system has completely replaced the old market on Underworld ..... it might give a few players a bit of frustration because they can't trade directly and there's always the chance of them losing the auction, but it does cut down on the cheats.
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faceeater
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i might need to start another soon will this get me a warning, how do i deelete this thread
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Evangelion
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You can't delete your threads.
And I have no intention in giving you a warning and I think scillage won't give one too.
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GodLike
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I totally agree with face eater thats one of the best ideas that ive seen on here so far lets see if that has a possibility of coming up in the next patch
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Artoir.
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@Godlike
What idea are you referring to?
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With the unfairness in sieges like 822 points(with only 10 members) against 500 points(with 26 members), does it really make sense to stay?
The devs really have to do something about unfair sieges because no matter how much people advocate fairness, they won't adhere to it and they will still do what they want because those who have all the power are drunk with it (so it seems) and don't care who they hurt or make leave in the process.
I know the limits and the extents of my clan and I try my damnest to be fair in sieges, but it seems like I'm the only one. There's no point in playing if you can't advance because those high levels keep you down. And no, this unfairness has not only happened once to me or my clan, I'm at count...well...I've lost count. I'm only just speaking up about it now because it seems like the big issue and it is the thing pushing me to hitting that 'delete character' button, like so many before me have done.
And to any admin, warn me all you want, I don't care, I may not be long for this realm anyway.
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GodLike
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im reffering to the idea which face eater is putting the point across about balancing the sieges out but then again higher clans would disagree
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Gendibal
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The clan dominance and handicapping issue has been flogged to death before, and you can see the results of that here:
Clan Handicapping
amazing how the same points come up time and time again, yet the powers that be choose not to see what the problem is.
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Has no one considered the bums rush?
Everyone piles on to making new squares until the big boys max out?
It'll be difficult but everyone CAN use their numbers against them. Their lower members will still get unfair handouts doing this as they gorge like great fat goldfish in a gluttonous frenzy but if we persevere they'll cap out and be wedged in (which has the added advantage of making the bigger clans less appealling while not effecting the smaller clans in the long run after some personal discomfort).
I planned on taking the stoic path before I even moved to zone 4 (must be the Monk tattoos
). Turn the other cheek and rebuild. Eventually they'll overgorge and be wedged into their niche with no room for growth.
Everyone who sticks with it will have weak players surrounding them squalling for protection like spoiled brats from the Clan that has now thrown them to the wolves.
Eventually the game will plateau if we stop fighting over squares and construct enough for everyone. Eventually leading to smaller clans proliferating since the top players of the top clans will stunt the growth of their intake.
Richer, more secure players can help too by flooding the auction with minimum amount junk too to fund the smaller players who can only throw in 2 bloodstones here and there.
I call this manouver Ghandi Stoicism, and I already plan to persevere myself to do what needs to be done. Suffer enough and the undeserving will have nowhere to go while we will finally be free to play the game by opening up real estate.
Anyone with me here?
Should I make a seperate thread to rally support you reckon? Make a choice a movement?
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Has no one considered the bums rush?
Everyone piles on to making new squares until the big boys max out?
Should I make a seperate thread to rally support you reckon? Make a choice a movement? |
Are you essentially saying that lower players should occupy all the Z3 squares so that anyone waning a z3 prebuilt has a choice? Not quite sure what you are getting at!
I think the top clans are mostly z3 full at the moment anyway, I think some people have started to go up to z2 as a result!
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Juntao
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There's only room for 1 2 zone per clan...isn't there?
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GodLike
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theheraldofogc im 99% with you there mate on that essay lol
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Artoir.
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try caas.info
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