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Smurf
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Guys!
I have reported SmiercFrajerom cause I knew about his awkward deeds. I mean trades, multiaccounts and weird behaviour. I do not like players who cheat and pretend that they are innocent. They all know that sooner or later they would have been punished. I do not care what you think about me. I am pretty much satisfied with Szeszej's work and really grateful for banning those who deserve to be banned. I think that there are still more bans to come.
Cheers!
What do you think?
Would you report a cheater if you knew about his misbehaviour?
I really need your opinion cause I do not know why so many people are angry with me.
I think that they feel guilty and are afraid of getting banned.
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12-18-2009 16:31 |
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NouveauNosferatu
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You get a thumbs up from me.
If i suspected anyone in Source of multi-accounting, i'd report them in a heartbeat.
People mutli-accounting etc show no respect to their fellow players. Borrowing other people's squares while knowing they could be caught and banned, thereby ruining someone else's square when/if they are.
Sometimes people make mistakes and do not report playing from the same IP, but if the rule-breaking is consistent and intentional, may the ban hammer crush them.
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12-18-2009 17:03 |
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You get a thumbs up from me.
If i suspected anyone in Source of multi-accounting, i'd report them in a heartbeat.
People mutli-accounting etc show no respect to their fellow players. Borrowing other people's squares while knowing they could be caught and banned, thereby ruining someone else's square when/if they are.
Sometimes people make mistakes and do not report playing from the same IP, but if the rule-breaking is consistent and intentional, may the ban hammer crush them. |
I agree but if as u said its not purpose braking i.e 2 peps but don't report (i.e do not know etc) i think Sjez maybe be bit more understanding to them, i would never risk my account as y throw hard work away just to try get little extra
If i knew friend/clan mate was doing this i admit i would try to get them to stop as don't want them to be banned .
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NouveauNosferatu
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Originally posted by Foxy
I agree but if as u said its not purpose braking i.e 2 peps but don't report (i.e do not know etc) i think Sjez maybe be bit more understanding to them, i would never risk my account as y throw hard work away just to try get little extra
If i knew friend/clan mate was doing this i admit i would try to get them to stop as don't want them to be banned . |
Well the T&C are there when you sign up, so if you dont read them and dont report playing from the same IP, you've no-one to blame but yourself.
Given the amount of trouble there's been with multi-accounts etc before, i have limited compassion for anyone over 10 points who says they didnt know they had to report same IP.
By that stage, you'd like to think they may have been on the forums at some stage, or maybe read the punishment list etc which is on everyone's page.
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12-18-2009 17:22 |
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Foxy
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Originally posted by Foxy
I agree but if as u said its not purpose braking i.e 2 peps but don't report (i.e do not know etc) i think Sjez maybe be bit more understanding to them, i would never risk my account as y throw hard work away just to try get little extra
If i knew friend/clan mate was doing this i admit i would try to get them to stop as don't want them to be banned . |
Well the T&C are there when you sign up, so if you dont read them and dont report playing from the same IP, you've no-one to blame but yourself.
Given the amount of trouble there's been with multi-accounts etc before, i have limited compassion for anyone over 10 points who says they didnt know they had to report same IP.
By that stage, you'd like to think they may have been on the forums at some stage, or maybe read the punishment list etc which is on everyone's page. |
Lols forum, i only found out there was 1 around when necro started, i'd played about 8-10months by then =P
Yes i see ur point but still i not like mad at someone who does by accident, it hapoens
I've read forum rules tons but i make mistakes as some things i think diff to others, yes confused yet =P
But purpose multis/pushing etc, BAN THEM ALL =P
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[20:01] <Foxy9> really? not mortis or grind?
[20:02] <stimpuki> mortis is to old now and grind is hll
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12-18-2009 17:29 |
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Smurf
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So ... Looks like the ones who do not have anything to hide are open-minded and reasonable. I think that pushing and pulling are issues that occur more often on Necropolis. As far as I know, Underworld has a different auction system which is clear and everyone can see the trade offers and the bids. However, on Necropolis it is possible to hide your trades easily. Just imagine me selling my whole equipment for like 200.000PoP ( it is worth more than 1.000.000PoP ) without posting it on forum. If Szeszej was not monitoring Necropolis properly, I would never be caught and the player who took advantage of the low price would not be banned. So if I get to know about such players who sell things cheaply or give out items, and then pretend to be fair, I usually report them in order to have them banned.
As simple as that.
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12-18-2009 17:39 |
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Lysandra
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I'd think that's kind of a retorical question... of course it's fair to report someone who cheats.
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12-18-2009 18:20 |
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Smurf
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No it isn't. Polish people still tend to think it is immoral to report a cheater. But I am pretty much sure that this is one of cultural differences ...
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12-18-2009 18:47 |
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Hmm i was blissfully unaware people were even cheating... I assume this has something to do with money [pop] farming or something, i dont see why else people would stupidly risk their accounts.
Well, it would be hard to report like an ingame best friend, but to be honest i think 95% of people would go ahead and report them anyway, but suffer with the guilt afterwards.
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criss1
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I agree with you Smurf! If you play this kind of game or any else you should follow the rules. Even if you cheat sooner or later it will come out. So you did the right thing. I think that now the banned persons will understed their proceedings. They have lost 2 or more characters maybe this will teach them something!
Cheers!
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12-18-2009 21:17 |
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smierc
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reporting cheats is fair, why should some be given an unfair advantage (well an extra one anyway)
if they want to cheat go play on a hardcore realm.
speaking of which if anybody of any importance reads this, can we have a hardcore realm? i'd pay to be able to cheat 
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12-18-2009 21:38 |
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Desire
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Smurf, you realy don't know why people are angry with you? You are breaking one of the rules of our society.
It is clear that reporting is fair.
But...
Change your skin color and your living place, i don't know, to FR or UK, or any other - just far enough from here.
Bye bye!
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12-19-2009 12:02 |
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Evangelion
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Only cheaters themselves think that reporting a cheater is immoral. Those who are without guild and have a good sense of judgement will report a cheater.
If someone from Source was cheating I'd report then too. Swearing in clan messages is one thing but cheating is much worse...
Edit. Desire apologise to Smurf for the racist comment... Otherwise I'll give you a warning...
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12-19-2009 12:07 |
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Desire
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Oh, please, forgive me Smurf, i should never use such words.
Bye bye Smurf!
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12-19-2009 12:28 |
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Pops
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desire, to my mind youve just earned a warning. first you make a racist comment, then evan gives you the option to apologise and you mock him.
i think there isnt as much of a cultural difference as you may think. im from the uk and people are labled as a 'grass' for reporting things (everything from crime to trivial matters in a game)
but moraly i think it is wrong to cheat. why should anyone benefit to the detriment of other players?
personally, if i found out someone in boot was cheating id boot them from the clan and report them because it would look badly on me and the rest of the clan if any of our members were caught to be cheating
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Well, if you can't stand the guy for some good reason, and you're 100% sure(for example you have some proof) that he's cheating, then reporting him is a good thing, I would do it without hesitation. It's cheaters fault, that he let someone detect him, and he's the only one to blame. If not, then it's Administrators job to get him, since they have access to the game logs, and therefore they have better view on the situation, so I wouldn't bother myself xD.
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12-19-2009 20:35 |
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Cheese!!!!!!!!! :D
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Personally, i wouldnt report them, i dont see the point on it,
And the complaints forum? That just gives people who just LOVE to complain about anything a place to complain, "oh i think these people are multiaccounting"
"This is offensive (shows a reference link)"
i remember a complaint of a person sayin "this is offensive" and it showed a ref. link to a players avatar "How bout a nice, big cup of shut the f*** up"(without censoring) and another one that said same thing except someones provenance said "Provenance:................Penis"
Now, these are not even worth complaining about, its just people who:
1: LOVE TO COMPLAIN
2: DONT HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR
So, just to shorten it, i give a big "muffin YOU!!" and two middle fingers to those people 
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12-19-2009 21:01 |
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darc
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you have to remember though that young kids play this game. so yeah you can have some fun but within a certain context.
back to topic cheating is wrong tho so report away.
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12-20-2009 20:11 |
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Pops
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Cheese!!!!!!!!!
warning for language. using *'s isnt enough as the implication is still there
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12-20-2009 20:40 |
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Cheese!!!!!!!!! :D
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Im very sure i said f*** not the the full word, so how is that cursing? and it could have bene foot, feet, flab, flap,flip,flop, etc.
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12-20-2009 20:49 |
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Cheese!!!!!!!!! :D
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maybe i like my stars on words, did you eber think that?
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12-20-2009 21:22 |
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ifryt
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Yeah...
I see there is almoust 10 peaple who thing the same as you...
but remember rest of us know who you really are...
frajer to frajer prawda? 
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12-21-2009 00:41 |
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Raxis
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Of course it is fair. Look at it as cheats being unfair to everyone else. So by reporting you are being fair to those who don't cheat
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12-21-2009 00:42 |
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Cheese!!!!!!!!! :D
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12-21-2009 19:32 |
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bobalob57
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thats pretty mean, what did he do to deserve that?
also of course reporting people who cheat is unfair. by cheating, they only make life harder for other players. everytime someone gets blocked by a bot, its because cheaters have meant the bot had to be put there, is just one example.
besides, cheating is morally wrong. it doesnt matter what other people think about it, its up too you to show a sence of integrity and report them. which you did
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Pops
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Wyobcowany warning for offence
closed
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