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2h melee or 2h Gun
Easy choice
Zerker because then you can use the BM Act2 arcana to its full potential and 2h melee is cooler
mmm lovely crits
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RE: Assassin or Berserker for 1h melee Beastmaster? |
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Assasin is better
crit chance + def ignore + more def than zerker makes it better race for 1h melee :p
and ofc more exp from *aura* :>
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Murderous
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Its only 6% more but i guess thats better than nothing lol, Im still liking the idea of being able to freely swap from 1h to 2h though
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assasins sounds good
have a gun set and melee set
melee for attack and some expos
guns for expos that you cannot hit with melee also assasin works well for hunting rifle, shotgun user because of crit you can get
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Murderous
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Yeah i said to Sampollo about having a leg shotgun as a secondary set up but that would be expensive as id have to have a whole different set of armour and jewlerry etc where as Zerker it would just literally be a swap of weapons if the 2h melee wep doesnt require any more stats to equip
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4thtimelucky
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trust me gunners start off really cheap just upgrading that cost so much lol its starts getting expensive after you reach act 2 when you want legendary
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Murderous
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Good gunners dont start off cheaply lol
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okii lol
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bezaker casue the 2h hit% on legenary will be more usful
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Berserker is obviously the more powerful, but the +10% in experience as apposed to the 18% from assass/24% from black knight does tend to add up in the long run of doing things...
personally i'm attempting to get gear for the black knight, as i'm a beastmaster myself and that'd get an extra 6th attack with a shirt of speed at G+5
(would obviously be switching to a vest of speed at G+5 but still...)
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Murderous
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I was a BK once and id like to say i wasnt to shabby at it but i dont want to be stuck to just 2h melee.
Creed and Philly, they are 2 very good replies lol, made the decision that little bit harder
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where is everyone getting zerker is obviously more powerful from?
high def mobs, what do you do? put extreme amounts into strength and miss out a chance to hit it or have some very nice def ignore + crit (assassin)
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Everyones getting zerker is more powerful from the fact it is lol, pretty insane damage bonus from the tats but as i said before it pays for the higher damage from having hardly any crits
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I dont see where the insane damage bonus from tatts is.
Zerker: 5% crit chance, +16 weapon damage, 10% exp, 5% HP, extra attack per weapon
Assassin: 30% crit chance, +11 weapon damage, 18% exp, 20% ignore defence.
The only thing that makes zerker an appealing tattoo is that extra attack.
Personally, i think if you're going 1h melee, assassin is the best route by a mile.
If you're going 2h, or want the 2h option still available, then yes, zerker is the way to go. Zerker's are at their most effective using 2h weapons.
But you stated in your original post at the top 'definitely 1h melee', and that being the case, assassin wins hands down.
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Murderous
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Assassin is slowly winning the battle if im honest as almost every decent 1h melee person ive spoke to has said Assassin and i suppose it would be handy being able to use a 2h gun every now and then especially with that silver bullet task even though thats miles away lol
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Ask a mod (magically overpowered dude)
I voted assassin mainly because what tiger_claw is capable of is miles away from any zerker. I haven't taken into account BK tattoo.
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Originally posted by Murderous
Assassin is slowly winning the battle if im honest as almost every decent 1h melee person ive spoke to has said Assassin and i suppose it would be handy being able to use a 2h gun every now and then especially with that silver bullet task even though thats miles away lol |
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=1dc28ab63a
Can be done with melee, not easily, but it can be done.
Of more pressing concern should be your first 2 badges, the dragons are easiest with a 2h gun, which assassin gives you tatts to support, and then you can switch to solely melee after that, or keep a 2h gun set-up for reds etc.
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Murderous
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for 1 handed melee: Assassin
20% Ignore Defence & 25% Crit chance simply overrule the 1 attack more by zerker
Thunderfists make the rest
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Murderous
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I know what items to use lol im just undecided on the tattoo
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as a zerker
assasin is best
simple as..
i just went zerker cause i wanted to use 2 handed wep and was easy to go monk-zerker
if i was to start again id go beastmaster assasin or beastmaster bk
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Murderous
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Im not Going BK again as much as i enjoyed it i found it restricting if that makes any sense to anyone.
75% sure ill go assassin atm
Not many Zerkers fighting there court lol
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Assassin, it's more versitile and is actually more powerful then zerker. And if you don't want to be restricted, it will be the best move since you'll have both guns and melee for a choice. Throw in defense gear and rep gear to that mix and you'll have choices out the...well, you know.
Personally, I love BK for this simple reason:
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=546e6a094f
Even if I started again, I'd go beastmaster BK. Plus....scythes make me feel like the Grim Reaper...LOL
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assassin is an excellent path from what ive seen from other players, but berzerker is also very powerful.
who said that zerker have to use suicide weapon? tigers cap of adrenaline, tigers cape of xxx and tigers shorts xxx, as long as each item defence was 0 or below youd be free to use ANY 1h or 2h melee weapon combinations. if anyone would like to discuss this, pm me and ill be happy to chat
we saw cesarz tear up players and mobs as a berzerker, and tiger_claw is doing an excellent job as an assassin (sorry to single you guys out) both tattoos have their benefits and drawbacks.
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Zerker for me. Did the Assassin thing last time and Zerker is far more fun. Zerker BM is pretty formidable around mid levels.
The only thing I will warn you about is while you're spending all your time looking for a decent Suicide weapon, assassins will probabaly gain 10 or so agility on you
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Apollo
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lol i think this is the 3rd time now, i dont want to be BK again
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Cause you were crap
1h melee is boring anyway
2h ftw but out of the 2 Assassin seems more practical but Zerker more fun
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Even if I started again, I'd go beastmaster BK. Plus....scythes make me feel like the Grim Reaper...LOL |
can't agree more, scythes are the sex
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assassin is better for one handed. if 2 handed and one handed is a goal then go for berserker.
assassin allows you to get more attacks anyways because of the basic 30% crit chance. then using some descent thunderfists to go with that set up assassin beats all zerkers.
for me i was fortunate to get 2 murderous tf's of hitting. also have a agile tf of valour for later. but my main item is light suit of speed at good+5.
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=b67f018ec5
allows 12 attacks. with agile of valour 13.
being a bm i would say is a very good advantage for you. if i was beastmaster i would love it
if i was you go for assassin and try develop murderous tf of... and get a light xxx of speed. maximise the use of the 30% crit.
also if you are assassin and plan to kill basilisk you will probs need assassin tatoo, guns a option and also melee is with the ignore defense. i out damage most snipers on basilisj with melee. i can't see many berserkers being that good against basilisks and later on from there berserkers get weaker unless they have a very good 2handed set up.
good luck. personally i am going bk for a short period of time till later date.
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Apollo
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good luck. personally i am going bk for a short period of time till later date.
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We could just swap accounts
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And tbh on reflection Assassin does seem the stronger choice definately if you are planning on being 1hmelee orientated
good luck and I have no doubt I'll be soloing whites for you very shortly mate
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I dont actually know any Assassins that use their 2handed gun section =\
If zerker had the defence ignore instead of.. +5% HP bonus it would be amazing.
but its just that defence ignore that i think gives Assassin that little more edge.
But in the end if you can get the eqeuipment i do beleive that BK overall is the place to be
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Murderous
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I wish people would stop mentioning BK LOL
Cheers Sampollo not only will you be killing Whites for me but Blacks, Phoenixes, Reds, Hydras... need i go on mate? lol
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Well like Sam said if you didnt change an account every week and stuck with a BK one youd probly be alrite by now ¬_¬ lolololol
But yeah id go Assassin to sort somethin good out
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Murderous
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lol Sam didnt say that, he was joking with Claw about them swapping accounts also i didnt change accounts every week. I do regret giving up my BK but i found it restrictive so yeah 1h melee Assassin is what ill have a bash at now
Best get back on topic before Diablo finds another Clip full of warnings lol
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