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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...evastation.html

So there you have it... On 2013,the Sun will reach it's maximum power in the past 11 years(length of a solar cycle),and it will produce a solar storm that will leave the world without power and electricity for periods that will reach 6 months...

Just think of the consequences... Facebook,youtube and google would completely disintegrate...

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will be after 2012, when we will enter to bronze age again Smile

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then buy many storage battery at 2012 Big Grin .

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And then we can finally put to rest this "Global Warming" [censored].

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And then we can finally put to rest this "Global Warming" [censored].

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What does this have to do with global warming? The only effect from the sun we're likely to have is increased electromagnetic radiation, which won't affect global climate, only electrical systems with great sensitivity as it explains in the article. The fact you had to mention you were a physics student just confused me further as to what you were in fact trying to say.

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And then we can finally put to rest this "Global Warming" [censored].

[/physics student opinion.]


What does this have to do with global warming? The only effect from the sun we're likely to have is increased electromagnetic radiation, which won't affect global climate, only electrical systems with great sensitivity as it explains in the article. The fact you had to mention you were a physics student just confused me further as to what you were in fact trying to say.


According to physicists 'global warming' symptoms have been caused from the coelescion of the three cycles of the sun.

Although CO2 obviously does have an impact on the environment, gasses such as water vapour and methane are FAR worse.

You'd do better for the environment by killing hamsters/cats/dogs/cows than to turn off your lights or TV.


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Originally posted by LucifersAngel
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And then we can finally put to rest this "Global Warming" [censored].

[/physics student opinion.]


What does this have to do with global warming? The only effect from the sun we're likely to have is increased electromagnetic radiation, which won't affect global climate, only electrical systems with great sensitivity as it explains in the article. The fact you had to mention you were a physics student just confused me further as to what you were in fact trying to say.


According to physicists 'global warming' symptoms have been caused from the coelescion of the three cycles of the sun.

Although CO2 obviously does have an impact on the environment, gasses such as water vapour and methane are FAR worse.

You'd do better for the environment by killing hamsters/cats/dogs/cows than to turn off your lights or TV.


These things you mention are all true. What confuses me still further is why you refer to global warming in inverted commas as though it's fictional, then continue to argue its existance if, albeit, in a very roundabout fashion. Besides, rice-paddy fields are probably the largest producer of methane after termites. In which case we have a choice. Wipe out the largest supply of food in the world, or wipe out the largest quantity of any living creature on the planet.

We're going a bit off-topic though. Everyone remember the end to Fight Club? I personally can't wait Smile

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Sorry my bad, i meant "Global warming symptoms". Grammar, it r saev ur lyf.

Anyway, i thought the 2nd largest source of methane was cow excrement?

I had a similar argument with a friend recently, and apparently we can survive on a lot less meat intake than is produced. Thus, our demand for beef is doing rather a bad thing for the environment Frown

But hey ho capitalism.

<3 fight club.

Back to the original post, ive heard about this sun activity before. Apparently if anything like this occurs, we will get northern lights all the way through the UK!

Anyway, never listen to media spin. If this did occur, there would be a small EMP type effect. But not "end of the world" style. Yes electronics will be damaged, but its more of a turn-off-and-on-situation than anything else.

Anyway, we're blessed with a magnetosphere that keeps us alive. The little amount of [extra] solar wind won't do that much damage, and my guess would be that it would be easy to cut down the damage it could do. Some solar wind does get through to the poles, which is why northern lights exist. And norway seems to do fine with this apocalyptic electrical effect.


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I mentioned to a friend it was probably exaggeration by the sensationalist media, but we (anarcho-primitivists) can but hope to return to a meritocracy Smile I do agree though that chances are, this will probably be a damp squib of an effect. We'll get some black-outs fr a few days at most then all will return to normal probably. Then again, I give it about 6 months before the first Hollywood epic goes into production, where a crew of incredibly attractive astronauts have to go blow up the sun with a nuclear weapon ten times the size of earth to save the world.

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Originally posted by OTNC
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Originally posted by LucifersAngel
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Originally posted by OTNC
And then we can finally put to rest this "Global Warming" [censored].

[/physics student opinion.]


What does this have to do with global warming? The only effect from the sun we're likely to have is increased electromagnetic radiation, which won't affect global climate, only electrical systems with great sensitivity as it explains in the article. The fact you had to mention you were a physics student just confused me further as to what you were in fact trying to say.


According to physicists 'global warming' symptoms have been caused from the coelescion of the three cycles of the sun.

Although CO2 obviously does have an impact on the environment, gasses such as water vapour and methane are FAR worse.

You'd do better for the environment by killing hamsters/cats/dogs/cows than to turn off your lights or TV.


These things you mention are all true. What confuses me still further is why you refer to global warming in inverted commas as though it's fictional, then continue to argue its existance if, albeit, in a very roundabout fashion. Besides, rice-paddy fields are probably the largest producer of methane after termites. In which case we have a choice. Wipe out the largest supply of food in the world, or wipe out the largest quantity of any living creature on the planet.

We're going a bit off-topic though. Everyone remember the end to Fight Club? I personally can't wait Smile


Global warming is fictional =P
Have you ever been to Wales?

And this probs won't happen like everything else thats in the news

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Originally posted by LucifersAngel
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And then we can finally put to rest this "Global Warming" [censored].

[/physics student opinion.]


What does this have to do with global warming? The only effect from the sun we're likely to have is increased electromagnetic radiation, which won't affect global climate, only electrical systems with great sensitivity as it explains in the article. The fact you had to mention you were a physics student just confused me further as to what you were in fact trying to say.


According to physicists 'global warming' symptoms have been caused from the coelescion of the three cycles of the sun.

Although CO2 obviously does have an impact on the environment, gasses such as water vapour and methane are FAR worse.

You'd do better for the environment by killing hamsters/cats/dogs/cows than to turn off your lights or TV.


These things you mention are all true. What confuses me still further is why you refer to global warming in inverted commas as though it's fictional, then continue to argue its existance if, albeit, in a very roundabout fashion. Besides, rice-paddy fields are probably the largest producer of methane after termites. In which case we have a choice. Wipe out the largest supply of food in the world, or wipe out the largest quantity of any living creature on the planet.

We're going a bit off-topic though. Everyone remember the end to Fight Club? I personally can't wait Smile


Global warming is fictional =P
Have you ever been to Wales?

And this probs won't happen like everything else thats in the news


Hate to point this out Foxy, but yeah, I'm Welsh. Also, we're in the wrong place for global warming really. As the ice-caps melt, they release cold water into our weather streams, slowing them down, making us colder. The difference between weather and climate is important. On the whole, the entire globe's average temperature is increasing, however, locally, temperatures might very well be decreasing.

EDIT: This description is VERY simplified.

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Originally posted by OTNC
And then we can finally put to rest this "Global Warming" [censored].

[/physics student opinion.]


What does this have to do with global warming? The only effect from the sun we're likely to have is increased electromagnetic radiation, which won't affect global climate, only electrical systems with great sensitivity as it explains in the article. The fact you had to mention you were a physics student just confused me further as to what you were in fact trying to say.


According to physicists 'global warming' symptoms have been caused from the coelescion of the three cycles of the sun.

Although CO2 obviously does have an impact on the environment, gasses such as water vapour and methane are FAR worse.

You'd do better for the environment by killing hamsters/cats/dogs/cows than to turn off your lights or TV.


These things you mention are all true. What confuses me still further is why you refer to global warming in inverted commas as though it's fictional, then continue to argue its existance if, albeit, in a very roundabout fashion. Besides, rice-paddy fields are probably the largest producer of methane after termites. In which case we have a choice. Wipe out the largest supply of food in the world, or wipe out the largest quantity of any living creature on the planet.

We're going a bit off-topic though. Everyone remember the end to Fight Club? I personally can't wait Smile


Global warming is fictional =P
Have you ever been to Wales?

And this probs won't happen like everything else thats in the news


Hate to point this out Foxy, but yeah, I'm Welsh. Also, we're in the wrong place for global warming really. As the ice-caps melt, they release cold water into our weather streams, slowing them down, making us colder. The difference between weather and climate is important. On the whole, the entire globe's average temperature is increasing, however, locally, temperatures might very well be decreasing.

EDIT: This description is VERY simplified.


Im not idiot =P was joke, im doing A level Chem and Physics =P

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"He said large swathes of the world could face being without power for several months, although he admitted that was unlikely.

A more likely scenario was that large areas, including northern Europe and Britain which have “fragile” power grids, would be without power and access to electronic devices for hours, possibly even days."

So only those with weak power grids will have a few days of blackout if they don't prepare now for it. I'll start being concerned if it gets to the point were NASA says then entire world will black out for years....oddly enough that happened in a manga I was reading...ha.

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So only those with weak power grids will have a few days of blackout if they don't prepare now for it.


Knowing Serbia,i might as well prepare now.

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global warming is a natural cycle though, so i don't see why everyone is throwing a complete jew over it...

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global warming is a natural cycle though, so i don't see why everyone is throwing a complete jew over it...


A natural cycle that has been drastically sped up.

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global warming is a natural cycle though, so i don't see why everyone is throwing a complete jew over it...


A natural cycle that has been drastically sped up.


Precisely, it's long been a defence of skeptics that it's a natural cycle. However, what most people fail to realise when they say this is that this natural cycle ought to bring us back into a long overdue ice age. Increase in global average temperature has happened instead which brings about suspicion. Most of all though, the alternative theory, which I think smierc is refering to, is that the temperature fluctuates on a much smaller level, in a shorter quantity of time than is usually required for ice ages etc. This is also true. However, human activity has massively increased the rate at which this should naturally occur.

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Yeah, its not like we're recovering from an ice age or anything.

[hint hint, its why we have frozen poles.]

The globe gets hotter as we recover, until there will be no ice left on the poles.

A long time after that, the ice will reform, and the ice caps will reach probably france-ish.


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I am 37 y/o and they were telling me in grade school how the world was going to end if we did not do anything about "global warming"...California was going to fall into the ocean...Florida was going to be underwater....etc.

Al Gore is buying up ocean front property in Florida.....if he believed his own theories why would he do that??

By the way this is the COLDEST winter on record in the US since the early 1900's.

OH thats right it is getting colder cuz of global warming...heard some scientist say that the other day...what a joke.


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6 months without Internet?!?!?!
and even worse, without porn?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
THE END IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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6 months without Internet?!?!?!
and even worse, without porn?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
THE END IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bad phrasing my friend.

@wez, the coldest winder was probably in the 1600's at the maunders minimum.


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