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Dear Players,

We want this thread to answer all your question about when the Third Act is going to be and what's going to be in it.
You can ask any questions about anything that has been confirmed in this thread to be included in the Third Act. Please refrain from further speculations Smile


Thread rules:

1. Read this post REALLY REALLY carefully. We won't answer a question that has been already answered.
2. The next post will contain a comprehensive list of Q&A.
3. Ask questions ONLY about things that are confirmed here. Suggestions for new features will be ignored.
4. All the changes listed are almost finished and it is almost certain they will make it to act 3.
5. There is a separate thread concerning evolutions
6. There is a separate thread concerning clan buildings

General Act 3 changes.

New events:
- Clash of Gods - will be active for the first week of act 3 and then activated at random, much like the other events
- Night of the Seekers.
We want the effects of these events to be a surprise for you. Smile

Premium options:
- increase the capacity of Clan Armoury. 20 more items can be stored and any member of the clan can use premium to activate it. If more than one person does the capacity won't be increased further, but instead the duration will be extended.
- you can change your clan leader without disbanding. We don't want this fuction to be abused (changing leader just for one siege) so this will only be available as a premium option, it will cost 30 days of premium deducted from the NEW clan leader.
- in trade history 80 trades will be shown, instead of 40.

Game interface:
- you will be able to click "trade back" in trade history and trade reports. Clicking on it will take you to the trade screen with items and details already filled.
- you will be able to leave an expedition, but only before your application is accepted. If you do so you will only regain half the blood invested.
- when spying, clicking on "Finished" will take you to the report.
- there will be an option to "Spy again", in an espionage report you will be able to click a link and it will take you to espionage screen targeting the same player.
- quest screen will show the combined average chance for successful quest.
- arcana used during quests will be stored in cookies so you won't have to set them again and again. Another set of arcana and evolutions will be saved also for attacks and expeditions.
- auctions which end between 4 and 6 AM will be automatically extended by 2 hours (to avoid them finishing during maintenance).
- as lvl 1 characters were abused to boost honour, honour points will only be given when attacking players >20 lvl (Act I), >35 (Act II) and >50 (Act III). This change concerns not only damage dealt but also enemies killed.
- only small images will be displayed on cell phones.
- on task screen you will be able to see which tasks have and haven't been completed in each zone.
- there will be new graphics for attacks, sieges and espionage.
- and of course many many more smaller changes and improvements.
- there will be a graphic interface for armoury. You will be able to turn it off in game settings.


Basic info.

Act 3 requires lvl 65 and completion of all quests in act 2.
All effects of buildings will be turned off when advancing to act 3 until all quests in the vicinity and all far journeys have been completed - buildings site will be inactive!
All tasks that haven't been completed in Act I and Act II will be avilable in Act III.

Quests:
- all act 3 quests have to be completed in a set order (when doing them for the first time).
- there will be new quests in act 3, but the difficulty will remain the same as in act 2.
- Act 3 quests will provide more xp.
- ACT 3 ONLY! Legendary items will drop more often on easy and medium quests (1%) and on pilgrimages (2%).
- ACT 3 ONLY! Stones will drop more often on Underworld type realms

Attacks:
- attacking players in act 3 will yield 2.5x more xp than in act 1, no matter which ct you're in.

Expeditions:
Expedition mobs will be stronger proportionally to the number of Act 3 players on the expedition.


Evolutions.

Soon you will see the complete description of how evolutions work in this thread
All quests concerning evolutions should be asked in the appropriate thread.

Clan buildings.

Soon you will see the complete description of how clan buildings work in this thread
All quests concerning clan buildings should be asked in the appropriate thread.

What is NOT planned:
- new race,
- sets with act 2 arcana,
- new arcana.

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Q&A

Q. When act 3 is going live?
A. As soon as we finish programming, test and balancing.

Q. But when exactly?
A. We cannot answer this question. We want to introduce it when we think the changes are balanced, coherent and will give you a lot of fun.

Q. What were the puzzles about?
A. The first puzzle was about what happened in act 1 and hinted at act 3 evolutions. The second puzzle was about what happened in act and hinted at clan buildings. We are going to have one more puzzle when act 3 will have a confirmed date

Q. Does that mean there won't be any great changes in act 3?
A. We have two more big changes coming, that could have their own puzzles, but they are in early development. If they take too long to develop they will have to be moved to the next patch.

Q. Any more details on them?
A. No, we are not ready to discuss them yet, but when we are we certainly will

Q. Will we be able to extend CA if we are not in act 3?
A. Yes, this option will be available in every act.

Q. What's the xp for expedition if 2 people are from A3 and one from A2? What's the increase in power in A3 since in A2 only lower lvl mobs had any significant boosts?
A. Only lower lvl A2 mobs benefited much from stat boosts. In A3, the percentage stat boost will be the same for all the mobs (i.e. if a stat will be boosted by 10%, it will be boosted by 10% for every mob). If there are two A3 players and one A2 player, the mob will get boosts for 1 player in A2 and 2 players in A3 so for example: if a mob would get +30% from A2 team and +60% for A3 team then in the mixed situation described here the boost will be 1/3*30%+2/3*60%=10%+40%=50%

Q. The power of a mob is proportional to the number of people in a team so if two people try to beat anubis they will have higher chances than if there were 10 people or the opposite?
A. Doesn't matter. What matters is in which act they are. 2 A1 players will have an easier mob than 10 from A3 and vice versa.

Q. I don't think it's a good solution and won't prevent from changing a leader just for one siege. It will probably only be less frequent.
A. There is no better solution and it is important because of clan buildings.

Q. Do you only mean the effects or the functionality of buildings? blood production? market won't work? if so, why not also turn off CA, would be more fun :> Big Grin Big Grin - serious suggestion ;D
A. Yes, that's exactly what it means. And you're right, we will consider this suggestion.

Q. I have a question about something that is not on the list...
A. Dear players, I certainly could make empty promises of what MIGHT be added/changed like: new tasks, changes to weapons, new mobs, option to change your race, race balancing, tattoo balancing and many many more. We are always closely monitoring the situation and some of the above MAY make it to A3. However, what we want to do in this thread is talk about things that WILL be added FOR SURE and we are ready to discuss. IF there will be any new additions to A3 they will be posted here.

Q. Will I be able to use the armoury and the market?
A. No, if everything goes as planned you won't be able to use any building. We are still evaluating if we should leave the functionality of expanded armoury or cancel that also.

Q. Will I be able to drop better items easier?
A. The evolutions will give you a number of bonuses, including passive bonuses that will help you with quests.

Q. Are you planning on rebalancing A2 arcana? I mean especially the most overpowered - Thoughtcatcher's Majesty?
A. No, if there is to be any rebalancing it will be races and tattoos

Q. Are you planning on increasing characters' HP so that sieges go for more than 1,5 round? 2x, 3x or more?
A. One of the evolutions will allow it. More info soon Smile

Q. Will females get any boosts? Especially on Underworld Smile
A. A3 changes will be completely uni-sex.

Q. Will I get more honour from attacks?
A. More?! No, we're not planning on anything like this. Additional source of honour is in early development and if it is not completed for A3 we will release it as DLC Wink

Q. If all the buildings stop functioning will everyone beat on me again and again because I'll have just over 300 hp?
A. Exactly. You will have to come prepared for the worst.

Q. I think the level required should be higher than 65.
A. We have set the threshold not only with top players in mind, it won't be increased.

Q. Will you expand CA on underworld
A. No

Q. Will mobs have boosted agility/perception? If so I won't be able to hit them with my ranged weapon
A. You will surely reconsider when you see the buffs from Evos and CBs.

Q. Are you going to make a huge backup before A3 and if so how long will it take? Smile
A. Backups are done daily.

Q. Are there any changes to easiness gained with levels?
A. No changes.

Q. Will the whole clan be able to chip in to change the leader?.
A. No.

Q. Will you add any new mobs with new loot so we can finally kill Anubis, Wendigo and Chronos?
A. We are considering adding new mobs, but this thread is about the things that we are 100% certain will be added in A3.

Q. What happens when expanded CA runs out?
A. CA becomes inactive, you can only take your own items.

Q. Will the mobs be respawning faster?
A. There are no changes planned for this.

Q. What do I do when I can't do anything because I run out of Lgo for quests?
A. Attacks of resource sieges.

Q. Will there be any new prefs/suffs?
A. We are planning a change to the items system but it won't be new prefs/suffs, the change will be much deeper, but we are not ready to talk about it yet.

Q. Can we get some of the changes sooner? It's all pretty much just minor changes.
A. If we could implement them sooner we would have.

Q. Will we be able to merge legendary items with non-legendary items, but with the loss of legendary prefix.
A. We are not planning any such changes.

Q. What happens if the new leader has too low level to support the current number of members?
A. You won't be able to recruit.

Q. Will I be able to just click "Become the leader" and pay 30 days and I'm the leader without the previous leader knowing what happened?
A. It is the leader that decided who will become the new leader.

Q. Will I be able to use my custom sets with the armoury turned off?
A. Yes.

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Expeditions:
Expedition mobs will be stronger proportionally to the number of Act 3 players on the expedition.

Will this affect the xp gained from act 3 mobs ?

Will we be gaining more xp if we go up against act 3 mobs ?

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With regards to quest drops, will there be a new prefix like Legendary as hinted before by Szeszej somewhere?
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OK, you got one promise out of me - if there is a new prefix for items and it's not going to be "uber" Smile

^From the previous thread involving all speculation about Act 3.

EDIT: Also
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We want this thread to answer all your question about when the Third Act is going to be...


So when's the patch going to be applied? Big Grin

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I've added Q&A from PL boards, should answer both your questions.

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only one question from me,

are act 3 make effect to RNG ?
lets say act1 = 80 % RNG love you
lets say act2 = 85 % RNG love you
lets say act3 = 90 % RNG love you

all the same or viceversa ?

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only one question from me,

are act 3 make effect to RNG ?
lets say act1 = 80 % RNG love you
lets say act2 = 85 % RNG love you
lets say act3 = 90 % RNG love you

all the same or viceversa ?


The RNG is a RANDOM number generator. Emphasis on RANDOM. It won't ever favour anyone as it outputs random numbers. The only thing affecting it is chance. Nothing to do with the RNG or it's algorithm will change and if it does then I won't eat my hat, I'll eat everyone's hats.

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quote:
Originally posted by npc
only one question from me,

are act 3 make effect to RNG ?
lets say act1 = 80 % RNG love you
lets say act2 = 85 % RNG love you
lets say act3 = 90 % RNG love you

all the same or viceversa ?


The RNG is a RANDOM number generator. Emphasis on RANDOM. It won't ever favour anyone as it outputs random numbers. The only thing affecting it is chance. Nothing to do with the RNG or it's algorithm will change and if it does then I won't eat my hat, I'll eat everyone's hats.


if you know programming RNG is random but you can set how far random number is by percentage,
I just curious, thanks for buying me hat.

I'm waiting Szej answer, if he said all the same, I'll wear my hat that you bought for me.

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Question.

Sushimaker has stated, that the UK "probably won't" get the act 3 update.

I am assuming this thread is based on the assumption that this opinion has changed.

Can we get confirmation that there definitely will be an act 3 on R1UK?

Thank you.

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Basic info.

Act 3 requires lvl 65 and completion of all quests in act 2.
All effects of buildings will be turned off when advancing to act 3 until all quests in the vicinity and all far journeys have been completed - buildings site will be inactive!
All tasks that haven't been completed in Act I and Act II will be avilable in Act III.




so i am asking : how it will be possible to do all quests - vicinity of the city + far journeys, without items even from my own armoury ? if old market is closed - i cant also loan items for quest from other player.


so am i supposed to go naked for quests ? or with my battle gear ? i m gunner, got nothing with intel, knowledge or even agility in my battle gear

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if old market is closed - i cant also loan items for quest from other player.

so am i supposed to go naked for quests ? or with my battle gear ? i m gunner, got nothing with intel, knowledge or even agility in my battle gear


lucky me ghald, I still have all my pilgrim item Big Grin

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if old market is closed - i cant also loan items for quest from other player.

so am i supposed to go naked for quests ? or with my battle gear ? i m gunner, got nothing with intel, knowledge or even agility in my battle gear


lucky me ghald, I still have all my pilgrim item Big Grin



sure i got some items for quests too, leg good incas, leg good strongman etc. but how to wear them without armoury ? you won t see them.

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sure i got some items for quests too, leg good incas, leg good strongman etc. but how to wear them without armoury ? you won t see them.


buildings site will be inactive! -> clan building for act3

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Maybe it means you can't upgrade your buildings at all until you finish the easy and medium quests? If they disabled your armoury and it went back to level 1, pretty much every item you own would overshoot the cap so you'd have to seel stuff to access them :/

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i think what LA is saying sounds to most likely to happen, they did say afterall
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buildings site will be inactive!
so lets hope they wont take away all buildings, cause with No buildings active this might lead to Act3 players becoming instant farms for act 2 and act 1 players with nothing in defence from Polic station.
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finally some news.. most stuff appears to be gameplay improvements, such as graphics, clan armoury extend, act 3 quests and more difficult mobs (finally, most mobs are really too easy!)....
but you stated no new arcana, no new races.. so where are the big changes?? All in a future patch (so not for act 3)?? Not that big need to take long time for of balancing if it is just for just this..

where are the new weapons? lol

And.. if legendary items will be dropped more often, this will give an advantage mostly to to ranged and melee players, as they will have better chances to get their dream weapons. What about gunners?? They already have their weapons!! Don't say we must rely only on armours and jewelry.. and notice getting nice jewelry pieces on underworld server (expecially the UK one) is almost impossible!

I am curious to see the english version of the evolution thread, the link send me to buildings one or to the polish version..

Tell us something more!!!

Ps: if we can't make suggestions here.. could you make a new official thread where we can post our suggestions, so you can consider that?
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if legendary items are looking to drop more often, does this mean there pricing on auctions will drop as there will be more of them going through the sytem?

this could swing both ways, it could be good as you wont have to save 20+ss to buy a leg scorpio, but at the same time it could well mean the bigger stone holders would potentially be able to make p+5 weaponry relativley quickly and cheaply

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Your will most probably still have access to your armory, but all the effects of the other buildings will be completely turned off.

As far as I remember Sushi said that UK won't be getting a new realm any time soon, A3 is going on every realm definately.

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if legendary items are looking to drop more often, does this mean there pricing on auctions will drop as there will be more of them going through the sytem?

this could swing both ways, it could be good as you wont have to save 20+ss to buy a leg scorpio, but at the same time it could well mean the bigger stone holders would potentially be able to make p+5 weaponry relativley quickly and cheaply


well i would personally love to actually be ABLE to create 2x legendary perfect agile TF's of valour.... but in act 2 in the UK underworld servers there simply arent enough people questing to be able to piece together a decent merge ...

Also ssej you said that the legendary bonuses were being reworked....

Any news on that as of yet?

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also in a previous post you said there would be a new prefix, can you confirm this will still be the case?

i dont know why im so excited about this act, i need to get all my pilgrimages done first LOL, time to get to work me thinks Tongue

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in his def he never said there was a new prefix surfix or new legendary stuff

just if there was it wouldnt be called uber

how you read it was your fault.
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Everyone misquotes me and then I get flamed for not keeping my promises. All I said is that IF there is a new prefix it won't be called "Uber" Tongue

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as lvl 1 characters were abused to boost honour, honour points will only be given when attacking players >20 lvl (Act I), >35 (Act II) and >50 (Act III). This change concerns not only damage dealt but also enemies killed.


don't understand that :

This change concerns not only damage dealt but also enemies killed.


does it means that ambush will work like siege ?

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Your will most probably still have access to your armory, but all the effects of the other buildings will be completely turned off.

As far as I remember Sushi said that UK won't be getting a new realm any time soon, A3 is going on every realm definately.


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2: If there is an Act 3 in planning, use the same idea that was originally envisaged for the auction system ... activate it when X players reach the level to enter it and have it seperate from the other two acts from the start.

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2. Not possible in the UK - simple, probably You would not recieve A3, ever.
Just the high lev player pool is to small on EN servers.


So i ask my question again Szeszej, Will we get act 3?

Above is the proof that Sushi did say what i claimed.


*A couple of points requiring answers (UW)

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Everyone misquotes me and then I get flamed for not keeping my promises. All I said is that IF there is a new prefix it won't be called "Uber" Tongue



so is this a upsetting admission theres not going to be a new prefix? Frown

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OTNC you misunderstood, SM was only saying that if such idea was to be implemented UK would never see A3 because of lower populace Smile . We are not going to make A3 dependant on users actions and more importantly we are not going to make it dependant on how many actions users can make per server. A3 will simply come and to be clear now I can safely say it will come to UK as well Smile

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When you say buildings wont work are you saying ill have basic flat hp on offence/defence?

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yup thats exactly it so you better save your quests up.

But at least the difficutly will be same as act2 so it shouldnt be to hard to get them done.
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yup thats exactly it so you better save your quests up.

But at least the difficutly will be same as act2 so it shouldnt be to hard to get them done.


Cool. 1h gunners in act III will be useless against me untill they pass them all then ill get pwned again lol

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another question, if production of buildings will be stopped. how do i get LGO for quests and also blood ? bodyguard and police wont work, so i ll be able only to be defeated. - sure i can try attack players with 250 points in ranking, but still when i meet 2H i cant win as a gunner with only basic hp 1100.

so there will be situation like this: i move to a3. all a2 attack me all day. so i lose blood, LGO. my buildings doesnt work - i don t do attacks. i got no LGO and blood to do anything, cant attack cause chance will be 30% - the minimum. even if battle starts i lose when opponent is 2H melee while i m gunner.

cant do quests
cant do attacks
cant move back to a2
cant do anything

can delete account only


OR shall we all buy 200 - 300 junk - sometimes even more? and selling them we can do quests ? but still will lose LGO while being attacked every 30 min on z2 ? then junk ends/ old market don t work/ cant buy more.... ?


i was doing intel A1/A2 for 10 days ! when i got 18-21%. 10 days=240 quests with premium so everything with quests worry me.

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do caravans i think it will be quite easy and quick. And using the shorting option is a must to get it done quick.

And yes you might need to buy junk but thats no big deal when stones are going to drop more often aswell
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another question, if production of buildings will be stopped. how do i get LGO for quests and also blood ? bodyguard and police wont work, so i ll be able only to be defeated. - sure i can try attack players with 250 points in ranking, but still when i meet 2H i cant win as a gunner with only basic hp 1100.

so there will be situation like this: i move to a3. all a2 attack me all day. so i lose blood, LGO. my buildings doesnt work - i don t do attacks. i got no LGO and blood to do anything, cant attack cause chance will be 30% - the minimum. even if battle starts i lose when opponent is 2H melee while i m gunner.

cant do quests
cant do attacks
cant move back to a2
cant do anything

can delete account only


OR shall we all buy 200 - 300 junk - sometimes even more? and selling them we can do quests ? but still will lose LGO while being attacked every 30 min on z2 ? then junk ends/ old market don t work/ cant buy more.... ?


i was doing intel A1/A2 for 10 days ! when i got 18-21%. 10 days=240 quests with premium so everything with quests worry me.


ghal

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2. Use highest percept items you can so less chance people get through
3. Get quests done with shortening
4. All buildings back within a week easy as don't need to d pilgrims as far as i know

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Basic info.

Act 3 requires lvl 65 and completion of all quests in act 2.
All effects of buildings will be turned off when advancing to act 3 until all quests in the vicinity and all far journeys have been completed - buildings site will be inactive!
All tasks that haven't been completed in Act I and Act II will be avilable in Act III.


all task from act 2 have to be done and uncompleted task from a2 will be available in a3

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All quests have to be done, not tasks. Wink

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another question, if production of buildings will be stopped. how do i get LGO for quests and also blood ? bodyguard and police wont work, so i ll be able only to be defeated. - sure i can try attack players with 250 points in ranking, but still when i meet 2H i cant win as a gunner with only basic hp 1100.

so there will be situation like this: i move to a3. all a2 attack me all day. so i lose blood, LGO. my buildings doesnt work - i don t do attacks. i got no LGO and blood to do anything, cant attack cause chance will be 30% - the minimum. even if battle starts i lose when opponent is 2H melee while i m gunner.

cant do quests
cant do attacks
cant move back to a2
cant do anything

can delete account only


OR shall we all buy 200 - 300 junk - sometimes even more? and selling them we can do quests ? but still will lose LGO while being attacked every 30 min on z2 ? then junk ends/ old market don t work/ cant buy more.... ?


i was doing intel A1/A2 for 10 days ! when i got 18-21%. 10 days=240 quests with premium so everything with quests worry me.


What we want to do in the patch is that advancing to A3 has to be a decision and you have to prepare for it, not just click click click done OH THE POWER.

On a sidenote, I'm at the moment expanding Q&A translation.

Also sorry for misinterpreting what Konrad said, as far as I can see in the new Q&A (and contrary to what I have said before) your personal armoury won't work when advancing to A3.

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can you still use your custom builds even if you cant see the items you want to use?
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can you still use your custom builds even if you cant see the items you want to use?


thats what ive been discussing on irc

most of us if not all would be screwed should dat be the case

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Yes

Added to Q&A

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Right Szes then

If we have no armoury

IF we borrow items from ca they will not show up in our armoury

AND will premium extension still add armoury space?

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we will need to sort 9 quest shelfs(1 for each parameter) out prior to act 3 from ur items and clan items that will be in CA for that time, but some1 will have to be online to remove them as u wont see them i think,thats if im correct???

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