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Foxy
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if you want B-P set for gunner need to wait a while as this is my plan im using for my gunman set up atm, already started making
P+1 b-p bandanna of shep (u use prego or caution as not got a 25 def max)
P+1 b-P cape of strongman (gives the str needed and dmg ofcourse)
P+1 b-P kilt of shepkerd (again use sun with your tats)
With gangster you havign alot of def, mainly from badnanna and kilt, alot of dmg (3 items with 1 dmg every 4 levels) the strongman lets you use hawk's set no str needed, and the toughness boost is high as you won't use any shep so no - tough and cape adds tough)
Hope it helps 
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[20:01] <stimpuki> ur best gunner on srrver atm
[20:01] <Foxy9> really? not mortis or grind?
[20:02] <stimpuki> mortis is to old now and grind is hll
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06-19-2011 20:51 |
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FlashAOD
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Originally posted by Firetrap
At what sort of level should i be completing sets? As in jewlerry etc, is there a guideline level? Obviously the sooner the better but is there a level that if i dont get a set ill struggle? 
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lvl 1..
you'll constantly struggle as a gangster without amazing gear the whole way through, its not something i would recommend starting as unless your a trooper and just go for it the whole way and hope people will help you.
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06-23-2011 20:08 |
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Firetrap
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06-23-2011 20:15 |
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FlashAOD
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If you can constantly be taken on expos even if you cannot hit anything and keep growing thats always a bonus.
as a gangster you will learn to rely totally on defence + life.. you need the defence to tank through everything while the shots you do hit.. hit hard
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06-23-2011 20:22 |
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FlashAOD
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Melee weapons damage
Basic damage of melee weapons is increased by strength and decreased by half of opponent's defence (sum of toughness and items defence).
Guns damage
Basic damage of guns is decreased by half of opponent's toughness, but strength doesn't increase it. Damage of guns is increased by 1/3 of character's total Knowledge (including items).
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06-23-2011 20:30 |
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Firetrap
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06-28-2011 19:22 |
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Undivisible
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Bad luck on your side
, on the other hand Pandora probably has sniper tatoo with bonus chance to hit, so she's hitting more frequently.
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dooz
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Art gives reputation, but maybe he will merge into something better one day. i would assume ideally fox as it gives reputation and knowledge, making it pretty ideal for such setup
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07-01-2011 06:27 |
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FlashAOD
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by technics.
100 percw ith a legendary 1H gun you can have 135perc.
it doesnt exactly work that way but by technics thats how it works
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07-01-2011 15:23 |
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kralen
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heres how it works if you have 100 perc and use 2 x leg glocks then you would have 135 per glock to hit
if you only had 1 leg glock and a norm glock you would have 135 perc to hit on the leg glock but only 100 perc to hit with the norm glock
hope that explains it a little better
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07-01-2011 15:54 |
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FlashAOD
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Mainly a quester.
Pilgrim is a good gunner
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07-02-2011 00:03 |
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Undivisible
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Talent is very expensive, but it's slightly better than pilgrim, especially when you need small amounts of strength to wear your armors, and apperance to wear your jewellery(ring of the bat for example).
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Originally posted by Firetrap
Second of all, leg 1h guns = +35% chance to hit so does that mean 100 perc is equal to 135? And is that as a whole or per gun so equal to plus 75% chance to hit? |
It works like this:
you have 100 perception, chance to hit +0, chance to hit increased by 35 %, and you want to hit the target with 90% of your shots. That's the maximum perception you'll hit with this:
{[(100 x 3) + 0 +70] x 1.35 - 90} / 3 = {[300 + 0 + 70] x 1.35 - 90} / 3 = {370 x 1.35 - 90} / 3 = {499.5 - 90} / 3 = 409.5 / 3 = 136.5
1. it's the base chance to hit you'll have with non legendary weapon, if your, and your enemy's perception is equal, it's also affected by the legendary bonus
2. 1 point of perception and/or agility (according to what type of weapon you're using) is equal to 3 points of chance to hit/dodge, first you multiply it by 3 to add the base chance to hit, and bonus chance to hit from gear/tatoo, then you're adjusting it with legendary bonus chance to hit, to get total chance to hit, and then you're dividing it by 3 to chceck the maximum perception you'll hit with these stats
if you want to shoot with the base chance to hit(70%), your 100 perception with legendary weapon actually works like:
{[(100 x 3) + 0 +70] x 1.35 - 70} / 3 = {[300 + 0 + 70] x 1.35 - 70} / 3 = {370 x 1.35 - 70} / 3 = {499.5 - 70} / 3 = 429.5 /3 = 143.16(6) perception
EDIT: It can't be! I've added the colors for you!
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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Undivisible: 07-05-2011 19:19.
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07-04-2011 00:23 |
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FlashAOD
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I hate 99% of people on this game. I have said for years hunters of speed. And everybody just laughs because o the -crit chance. But because gangster has no crit chance anyway why does it matter
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09-04-2011 16:14 |
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FlashAOD
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Cape.
ATM I have no stats. But I have half a merge to a hunters cape of speed. A vest is good. But it's the strength might be a huge problem
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09-04-2011 16:25 |
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Foxy
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bandanna better, as long as not shep will have +27 def at P+1 and will have good dmg
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[20:01] <stimpuki> ur best gunner on srrver atm
[20:01] <Foxy9> really? not mortis or grind?
[20:02] <stimpuki> mortis is to old now and grind is hll
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09-12-2011 22:39 |
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Foxy
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Can be just don't use shepherd
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[20:01] <stimpuki> ur best gunner on srrver atm
[20:01] <Foxy9> really? not mortis or grind?
[20:02] <stimpuki> mortis is to old now and grind is hll
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09-13-2011 22:32 |
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Grizly
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09-20-2011 13:47 |
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Pops
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its just rng, same as upgrades.
you could dodge 10 attacks in a row just the same as you could get 10 upgrades in a row then next time dodge nothing or fail every upgrade.
its the rng......
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09-22-2011 00:43 |
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grind
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At low-mid lvl I'd work to get this setup
p+1 bandanna of caution/senses/prophet/sun/precognition
p+1 cape of speed or g+5 hunters of speed
p+1 kilt of sun
tit of pilgrim
tit of wisdom
tit of wisdom
2xleg guns, uzi or berettas are fine until you can get skorpios
p+1 items are best way to enhance damage and defence.
at higher lvl the fun begins. You don't have the stupid def limitations of a gunner, so you can use almost any gear.
for perception you get a hawk set and you maximize dodges and damage. Since it is hard to do one with str suffixes (you will need high strenght) you will probably need one of your armour pieces with strenght suffix instead, and a plain hawk set.
And finally the dream equipment you could dream for lvl 100+
p+1 deadly bandanna of precognition
p+1 deadly cape of speed
p+1 deadly kilt of sun/incas
hawk chain of strenght
hawk signets (of strenght/youth and wisdom if you can)
perfect skorpios
you would get +6 extra strikes and even without crits you would hit really hard, have some defence and max dodge rate.
But building such setup on underworld is really hard.
An advantage is that you could try different setups, i.e. using bloody set for extra perception and regeneration, kind of
p+1 bloody bandanna of punishment/sun/precog (tshell would be great but breaks your tatoo)
p+1 bloody cape of speed/ds/caligola/centurion
p+1 bloody kilt of sun/sheperd/incas
with titanium set with pilgrim wisdom (or hskin for extra def or bat for extra perception) suffixes or hawk (again really hard get str to equip your gear)
2x skorpios
that could almost max defence and combined with the dodge would let you even solo some mobs, which is almost impossible with a gunman.
Also other sets as dancing (+hp), vengeful or insidious canbe nice, and such pieces can always be used as merge parts for hawk.
You just need to get per high enough to hit your target and then max defence & damage
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by grind: 10-02-2011 15:42.
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10-02-2011 15:40 |
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Already got Gangster tats so wont be changing now(3,2,0,0), i wanna be a thouroughbread lol
Is the art for extra appearance do you think or just waiting to merge it into somet else?
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