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This thread is mainly about defensive gear, to talk about what combination of items would be the best. Show off your actual defensive gear, write about what are you planning to change and everything that will be helpful for other players, to make the best defensive gear ever Big Grin

I will start with my:

Perfect Circlet of Turtle Shell (+1) UNEQUIP
Good Regal Full plate mail of the Fencer (+4) UNEQUIP
Good Titanium Amulet of Authority (+5) UNEQUIP
Perfect Titanium Bracelet of Authority UNEQUIP
Perfect Titanium Bracelet of Authority UNEQUIP
Perfect Elvish Shorts of Dodges (+1) UNEQUIP
Good Crystal Flail of the Bloodsucker (+5) UNEQUIP

Perfect Circlet of Turtle Shell (+1) CLOSE


Helmet
Defence: 84
Effects: CHARISMA +22, defence increased by 1 for every 4 levels, AGILITY -9, TOUGHNESS +25, defence +41
Requirements: LEVEL: 54 (70), CHARISMA: 29 (37), STRENGTH: 34 (44)

Good Regal Full plate mail of the Fencer (+4) CLOSE


Armour
Defence: 84
Effects: CHARISMA +23, APPEARANCE +25, defence +70 %
Requirements: LEVEL: 89 (117), STRENGTH: 89 (116), AGILITY: 58 (76), TOUGHNESS: 46 (60)

Good Titanium Amulet of Authority (+5) CLOSE


Amulet
Effects: APPEARANCE +17, STRENGTH +17, CHARISMA +40, STRENGTH +11, TOUGHNESS +28
Requirements: LEVEL: 80 (104), STRENGTH: 19 (25), APPEARANCE: 80 (104), CHARISMA: 24 (31), REPUTATION: 24 (31)

Perfect Titanium Bracelet of Authority CLOSE


Ring
Effects: CHARISMA +40, REPUTATION -3, STRENGTH +10, character defence +21, STRENGTH +11, TOUGHNESS +28
Requirements: LEVEL: 76 (100), STRENGTH: 25 (32), APPEARANCE: 83 (10Cool

Perfect Elvish Shorts of Dodges (+1) CLOSE


Pants
Defence: 43
Effects: AGILITY +61, defence increased by 1 for every 4 levels, defence +3, opponent does not attack in the first round of combat
Requirements: LEVEL: 75 (9Cool , STRENGTH: 78 (102), AGILITY: 21 (27)

Good Crystal Flail of the Bloodsucker (+5) CLOSE


Two-handed melee weapon
Damage: 62 - 127
Effects: Chance to hit -29, attacks per round: 2, CHARISMA +27, REPUTATION +20, HP +89 %, STRENGTH +21, TOUGHNESS +26
Requirements: LEVEL: 86 (112), STRENGTH: 85 (111), INTELLIGENCE: 50 (65), KNOWLEDGE: 49 (64), AGILITY: 41 (53)


Planning to change:
- amulet to Perfect on 90lvl
- armour - still don't know Tongue
- shorts - compound/panzer shorts/trousers of dodges
- weapon - to Perfect mace or wait for higher lvl and base int/knw stats to wear Perfect Flail

Stats in that eq:

DEFENCE 383

TOUGHNESS 130

CHARISMA 245

Eq build mainly for def and tattoo.

Pros:
- high def
- tattoo working - +5% to hp and 4luck
- race - +20% to hp and Beast`s Hide for toughness
- vs gunners/snipers - high dmg (3× 186 - 251) and 22% for crit

Cons:
- tc can use majesty so my hp is greatly lowered
- high def won't make any difference for players with ignore of def
- without dodges chance
- low agi, attacker can change eq for much lower agi but much higher dmg

Links:
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=c9cb77b9b7 - against shuri
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=54359682a7 - against tc with majesty and 2h weapon
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=8deda3844b - against tc with majesty and h.crossbow, 100% of ignoring def, only high hp will help me against him
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=87ea5265a8 - against 1h gunners, high chance to kill attacker

will paste more when some1 will attack me



Show off your eq and share tips if you think what will be better Smile

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My defensive gear will never live up to that standard, Zark, but I suppose it's decent enough for my level:


Battle Helmet of Adrenaline (+5) - 34 DEF
UNEQUIP
Good Field Vest of the Fencer - 90 DEF
UNEQUIP
Titanium Amulet (+3)
UNEQUIP
Titanium Signet (+5) - 9 DEF
UNEQUIP
Titanium Bracelet of Misdemeanour (+3) - 8 DEF
UNEQUIP
Good Shorts of the Scout (+5) - 33 DEF
UNEQUIP
Crystal Two-handed sword of the Bloodsucker (+5) - 16 TOU
UNEQUIP

Total Defence = 258(+ 30 Max BH + 30 BotM = 31Cool
Charisma = 85
Toughness = 84

- Changing:
HEAD:
Battle Helmet of Adrenaline -> UPGRADE - GD
ARMOUR:
Field Vest of the Fencer -> Field Chainmail of Master
JEWELRY:
"Authority" suffixed titanium set
PANTS:
Shorts of Scout -> P+1 Shorts of Scout
WEAPON:
Is fine, for now I guess. Maybe upgrade it when I get higher.

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so many players with defensive eq and no1 else to share their ideas for such eq ? Roll Eyes

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Hard hat of Adrenaline (+5) UNEQUIP

Regal Suit (+5) UNEQUIP

Titanium Amulet (+5) UNEQUIP

Titanium Bracelet (+5) UNEQUIP

Titanium Bracelet (+5) UNEQUIP

Compound Shorts (+5) UNEQUIP

Good Crystal Mace of the Bloodsucker

mine is not too bad for lvl 55. I have other items that i want to change around. When I can get a few more points of strength I will swap the adrenaline for a circlet of assault and regal suit for a regal chainmail of cobra. Heres some reports of my defence

http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=d06d057769
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=5c4ca98238
http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=f4ce48000d

As im in zone 3 at the moment im getting attacked a hell of alot by stronger players. Sissi just attacked and won inside 8 rounds with a good shuri of reaction +2. When absorbers attack me and null my blood of life then mainly they win.

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Circlet of Punishment (+5)

Good Regal Cape of the Strongman (+1)

Good Titanium Tie of Authority (+3)

Good Titanium Bracelet (+1)

Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+4)

Good Shorts of the Incas (+2)

Good Friendly Dagger of the Ancestors (+4)

Good Friendly Dagger of the Ancestors (+4)

DEFENCE 149
STRENGTH 110
AGILITY 56
TOUGHNESS 100
APPEARANCE 75
CHARISMA 239
REPUTATION 89
PERCEPTION 40
INTELLIGENCE 50
KNOWLEDGE 63


next plan is..get another ttianium of auth
then work on helm and pants

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Good Helpful Circlet of Punishment (+5)
Defence: 34, CHARISMA +19, TOUGHNESS +3

Good Regal Cape (+3)
Defence: 6, CHARISMA +22, TOUGHNESS +14

Good Titanium Tie of Authority (+5)
CHARISMA +42, TOUGHNESS +28 (TOUGHNESS FROM SET BONUS)

Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5)
CHARISMA +37, character defence +18, TOUGHNESS +28 (toughness from set)

Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5)
CHARISMA +37, character defence +18, TOUGHNESS +28 (toughness from set)

Perfect Compound Shorts
Defence: 67, TOUGHNESS +23

Good Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors (+5)
CHARISMA +40, HP +32 %

Perfect Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors
CHARISMA +46, HP +34 %

Next targets the 2nd K-D to Perfect & the shorts to P+1.
The cape will have to go for something Regal xxx of xxx which gives more Def, just haven't decided what yet.
Then remaining items to Perfect.

Total CHR in Def = 293

Defence = 261

Toughness = 118

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Good Helpful Circlet of the Prophet (+1)
Good Regal Tailcoat of Turtle Shell
Good Titanium Tie of Authority (+1)
Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+1)
Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+1)
Good Runic Shorts of the Rogue
Good Friendly Dagger of the Ancestors (+1)
Good Friendly Dagger of the Ancestors (+1)


DEFENCE 217
TOUGHNESS 87
CHARISMA 212


Next step - upgrade it all as high as possible Big Grin

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standard:

Good Battle Circlet of Punishment (+4) UNEQUIP
Good Regal Cape of the Assassin (+5) UNEQUIP
Good Titanium Amulet of Authority (+3) UNEQUIP
Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5) UNEQUIP
Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5) UNEQUIP
Legendary Good Panzer Trousers (+5) UNEQUIP
Good Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors (+4) UNEQUIP
Good Friendly Dagger of Valour (+5) UNEQUIP

DAMAGE 2× 118 - 119 Good Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors (+4)
2× 124 - 125 Good Friendly Dagger of Valour (+5)

DEFENCE 269
STRENGTH 96
AGILITY 93
TOUGHNESS 116
APPEARANCE 92
CHARISMA 275
REPUTATION 98
PERCEPTION 46
INTELLIGENCE 54
KNOWLEDGE 57

= 30k HP without disposal, will be a bit more after level up and a few building and item upgrades. next one will be the amulet


and a trap for gunners and low agility melee folks and rangers

Good Tiger`s Mask of Adrenaline (+5) UNEQUIP
Good Regal Cape of the Assassin (+5) UNEQUIP
Good Titanium Amulet of Authority (+3) UNEQUIP
Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5) UNEQUIP
Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5) UNEQUIP
Good Elvish Shorts of the Night (+5) UNEQUIP
Good Friendly Dagger of Valour (+5) UNEQUIP
Good Friendly Thunderfist of the Conqueror (+3) UNEQUIP

DAMAGE 2× 153 - 154 Good Friendly Dagger of Valour (+5)
3× 162 - 170 Good Friendly Thunderfist of the Conqueror (+3)

DEFENCE 164
STRENGTH 114
AGILITY 196
TOUGHNESS 98
APPEARANCE 92
CHARISMA 236
REPUTATION 121
PERCEPTION 37
INTELLIGENCE 54
KNOWLEDGE 69

with +attack and + 8 strength from arcana it works pretty okay. edit: forgot to say it works with assassin-tattoo, which helps a bit ;D

need to make 2 friendly TF of valour, get amulet up to perfect, get bracelets to perfect. the items i need for the jewellery are ready, just need the MS and the stones for the upgrades to g+5 for the merge-items. (-.-) and the TF's should not be that hard to make also, have some stuff left from my second murderous of suicide merge.

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Good Helpful Circlet of Punishment (+5)
Defence: 34, CHARISMA +19, TOUGHNESS +3

Good Regal Cape (+3)
Defence: 6, CHARISMA +22, TOUGHNESS +14

Good Titanium Tie of Authority (+5)
CHARISMA +42, TOUGHNESS +28 (TOUGHNESS FROM SET BONUS)

Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5)
CHARISMA +37, character defence +18, TOUGHNESS +28 (toughness from set)

Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5)
CHARISMA +37, character defence +18, TOUGHNESS +28 (toughness from set)

Perfect Compound Shorts
Defence: 67, TOUGHNESS +23

Good Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors (+5)
CHARISMA +40, HP +32 %

Perfect Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors
CHARISMA +46, HP +34 %

Next targets the 2nd K-D to Perfect & the shorts to P+1.
The cape will have to go for something Regal xxx of xxx which gives more Def, just haven't decided what yet.
Then remaining items to Perfect.

Total CHR in Def = 293

Defence = 261

Toughness = 118


Swapped the cape fpr a Regal Cape of the Turtleshell. Merged a Vest first but couldn't take the AGI hit.

Good Helpful Circlet of Punishment (+5)
Defence: 34, CHARISMA +19, TOUGHNESS +3

Good Regal Cape of the Turtleshell (+2)
Defence: 35, CHARISMA +21, TOUGHNESS +26

Good Titanium Tie of Authority (+5)
CHARISMA +42, TOUGHNESS +28 (TOUGHNESS FROM SET BONUS)

Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5)
CHARISMA +37, character defence +18, TOUGHNESS +28 (toughness from set)

Perfect Titanium Bracelet of Authority
CHARISMA +40, character defence +21, TOUGHNESS +28 (toughness from set)

Perfect Compound Shorts
Defence: 67, TOUGHNESS +23

Good Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors (+5)
CHARISMA +40, HP +32 %

Perfect Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors
CHARISMA +46, HP +34 %

Total CHR in Def = 295

Defence = 305

Toughness = 130

Got the parts (but need to upgrade them) to merge the shorts to P+1, merge a 2nd Perfect Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors and to merge another Perfect Titanium Bracelets of Authority. Collecting the parts to upgrade my Circlet.

Now I just need to do about 30 straight upgrades Big Grin

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I don't use a defence set-up on this server; but on France I use this:

Good Runic Headband +2 -- defence 31, + 30 defence from runic set, + 1 defence per 4 lvls from runic set
Good Runic Cape +1 -- 35 defence, + 12 toughness
Good Titanium Neckerchief +1 -- + 23 toughness from titanium set
Good Titanium Bracelet +2 -- 12 defence
Good Titanium Ring +1 -- 11 defence
Good Runic Skirt +2 -- 49 defence
Good Crystal Mace of Bloodsucker +5

Totals:
Defence = 291
Toughness = 105
Charisma = 129

Bonus:
Luck = 24
Black Knight tattoo = 3 hits with weapon; most gunners fail
Cursed Race = horror effect helps to block a round of attacks

Cons:
- need tattoo working at higher level to get more HP
- square is rubbish
- cursed race is rubbish for melee character (I do not play this character much; swapped into it because someone else wanted my original character to play)


QUESTION:
Why don't other players use Runic set as defensive set? I know my set is not the best, but that is because I do not play much on that server; but surely a good runic set-up would be very useful?

e.g.
P+1 runic circlet of ???
runic suit / platemail of ???
P+1 runic shorts of ??? (dodges to stop attack in first round?)

This would be high requirements, but could be a good set?

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e.g.
P+1 runic circlet of ???
runic suit / platemail of ???
P+1 runic shorts of ??? (dodges to stop attack in first round?)

This would be high requirements, but could be a good set?


you read my mind mate, that looks like my future def setup.

atm, only good runic set ready lol

if I use defense without runic, it will cost ~8 more space.
maybe I ever read somewhere, more luck (different luck) will decrease critical from attacker too.

7/8 item for def (with runic)
7/8 item for attack*1
7/8 item for attack*2
7/8 item for expo*1
7/8 item for expo*2
7/8 item for quest*1
7/8 item for quest*2
~5-8 item for building
~5-8 item for blood
8-max item for merge-part (actually this will be the one take most space)

total 80

except if you pay more for space, anything no problem for you.

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you read my mind mate, that looks like my future def setup.

if I use defense without runic, it will cost ~8 more space.


Yes, with runic set as your defence set & you quest set; then you save space in your armoury. I do this on france, and I only use 50 spaces of my 80. Wink


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maybe I ever read somewhere, more luck (different luck) will decrease critical from attacker too.


Not sure; I just re-read the tutorial. I think it helps increase your chance of critical & + to hit; but whether or not it decrease opponents chances...?

I will study my reports from france & post some examples. Wink

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Not sure; I just re-read the tutorial. I think it helps increase your chance of critical & + to hit; but whether or not it decrease opponents chances...?


http://wiki.bloodwars.net/index.php?title=Luck

reduce chance to hit, not critical Frown

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Good Helpful Circlet of Punishment (+5)
Defence: 34, CHARISMA +19, TOUGHNESS +3

Perfect Regal Cape of the Turtleshell
Defence: 52, CHARISMA +28, TOUGHNESS +37

Good Titanium Tie of Authority (+5)
CHARISMA +42, TOUGHNESS +28 (TOUGHNESS FROM SET BONUS)

Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5)
CHARISMA +37, character defence +18, TOUGHNESS +28 (toughness from set)

Perfect Titanium Bracelet of Authority
CHARISMA +40, character defence +21, TOUGHNESS +28 (toughness from set)

Perfect Compound Shorts
Defence: 67, TOUGHNESS +23

Good Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors (+5)
CHARISMA +40, HP +32 %

Perfect Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors
CHARISMA +46, HP +34 %

Total CHR in Def = 302

Defence = 333

Toughness = 141

Got the parts (but need to upgrade them) to merge the shorts to P+1, merge a 2nd Perfect Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors, merge another Perfect Titanium Bracelets of Authority and to upgrade my Circlet to Perfect.

Unfortunately they are all at Normal +5 and i'm out of LS Frown

Still, I took them ALL to their current level without using Ritual so can't complain Big Grin

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Perfect Malicious Circlet of Punishment
Good Regal Suit of Turtle Shell (+5)
Good Titanium Tie of Authority (+5)
Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5)
Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5)
Perfect Shamanistic Shorts (+1)
Good Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors (+5)
Good Friendly Dagger of the Ancestors (+5)

Def 250
Toughness 95
Charisma 302

Have items (but not stones) to make circlet P1 for extra Def boost, Armour to P and Swap P1 Shammy shorts for my Shammy shorts of Arms Dealer.

Once up 2 x friendly of Ancestors to P should have about 320 CHarisma and 300 Def.
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Perfect Malicious Circlet of Punishment
Good Regal Suit of Turtle Shell (+5)
Good Titanium Tie of Authority (+5)
Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5)
Good Titanium Bracelet of Authority (+5)
Perfect Shamanistic Shorts (+1)
Good Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors (+5)
Good Friendly Dagger of the Ancestors (+5)

Def 250
Toughness 95
Charisma 302

Have items (but not stones) to make circlet P1 for extra Def boost, Armour to P and Swap P1 Shammy shorts for my Shammy shorts of Arms Dealer.

Once up 2 x friendly of Ancestors to P should have about 320 CHarisma and 300 Def.


how much HP does that give you in defence?

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how much HP does that give you in defence?



About 38K against standard attacks not using majesty
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I am working on my defensive gear for some time. Used few advices from this thread, so want to show what i have for now:

Good Battle Circlet of Turtle Shell (+3)
Good Regal Suit of Turtle Shell (+2)
Good Titanium Tie (+1)
Titanium Bracelet (+5)
Good Titanium Bracelet of Strength
Good Shorts of Dodges (+5)
Good Friendly Dagger of the Ancestors (+5)
Good Friendly Knuckle-duster of the Ancestors (+4)


Charisma: 215
Defence: 244
Toughness: 100

Definitely need jewelry upgrade, but don't have stones for that now.
Have 3 of 4 parts to make battle circlet of turtle shell to P+1, but don't have level to use it yet, so this upgrade can wait.

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Could anyone post some stats about successfull defense / draw defense like 50%? Or more or less with such settings.


how does it compare to a defense build geared toward perception and aim for the 30% chance of successfull ambush. (do many top levels players have a high rep build to attack a perception defense).


My aim would be to learn if such a defense is viable compared to a toughness / charisma one. (focusing everything on perception and not care for defense / damage...)
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quote:
Originally posted by Mlarinon
Could anyone post some stats about successfull defense / draw defense like 50%? Or more or less with such settings.


how does it compare to a defense build geared toward perception and aim for the 30% chance of successfull ambush. (do many top levels players have a high rep build to attack a perception defense).


My aim would be to learn if such a defense is viable compared to a toughness / charisma one. (focusing everything on perception and not care for defense / damage...)


the top players do have enough rep that even a high perc set up they will get tru

it really depends on the level of the players that attack you

if most of players who attack you have low rep then yes a high perc set up will help

but at the higher end of the scale..the top players will get tru no matter how high your perc is

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ok thanks for the info, I am still far from such a zone (level 44)
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