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Lucifer
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Im a level 45 cultist with BK tat, but thinking about changing because I cant afford any decent equipment for it, nor can I get the kills I could get with assassin (I get 1-5 hits in an ambush, thats if im lucky) my current equipment is:

good bandanna of the wanderer(+2)
scaled jacket(+4)
chain of strength(+5)
good signet of strength
copper ring of strength(+5)
trousers of the scout(+4)
mace of the inquisitor(+4)

I do have other items from my assassin gear+some others I though would be good for BK but was wrong:
Good Bracelet of the Genius
Light Cape of the Thief (+4)
Expensive Mace of the Gambler (+4)
Chain of Wisdom (+5)
Hat of Precognition (+5)
Silver Amulet of the Genius (+3)
Runic Shorts (+3).

Im almost completely set on changing my tats, unless someone can give me some affordable gear that will let me once again kill people 60k points higher than me. assassins problem was doing decent damage in expos so im not changing back to it. I was thinking I should move to zerker tats but I wouldnt know what gear to get.
I was thinking about going to: hunter, demon lord, Iv asked my clan mates several times but they just gave me a list of equipment, i searched the closed auctions but its all too expensive, here what was listed for BK for your reference:
Good Helmet of Protection OR Good Helmet of Adrenaline
Good Scaled Shirt of the Death Sower
Good Amulet of Levitation
Good Ring of Youth
Good Ring of Youth
Good Shorts of the Scout
Legendary Good Scythe of the Gambler

give advice on any tat, i dont really care what tattoos I have, I just want to be able to do some considerable damage in expos as well as to players.

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Okay. COMPLETE GEAR CHANGE is needed here. Depending on your current budget, of course.

good bandanna of the wanderer(+2) - Good Helmet/Hard Hat of Adrenaline
scaled jacket(+4) - Field Vest/Cape
chain of strength(+5) - Titanium Chain
good signet of strength - Titanium Ring/Signet
copper ring of strength(+5) - Titanium Ring/Signet
trousers of the scout(+4) - Keep
mace of the inquisitor(+4) - Good Murderous Mace (+1)

Comparing[Hard-Hat > Helmet]
OF ADRENALINE

Good Helmet of Adrenaline CLOSE

Helmet
Defence: 24
Effects: chance to hit with all weapons +8, STRENGTH +11, PERCEPTION -7, AGILITY +10
Requirements: LEVEL: 48, STRENGTH: 47
Value: 62 400 Lgo
Value: Nanites 181, Mana 544

Good Hard hat of Adrenaline CLOSE

Helmet
Defence: 16
Effects: chance to hit with all weapons +3, STRENGTH +11, PERCEPTION -7, AGILITY +10
Requirements: LEVEL: 32, STRENGTH: 33
Value: 60 000 Lgo
Value: Nanites 174, Mana 450

Obviously, the helmet is the better choice. More defence, more + CtH. But price wise, you'll probably be looking to spend 10 BS max on the latter, but 1-2 LS max on the helmet.

Comparing[Vest > Cape]
FIELD

Field Vest (+5) CLOSE

Armour
Defence: 50
Effects: TOUGHNESS +9, defence +30
Requirements: LEVEL: 43, STRENGTH: 40, AGILITY: 22, TOUGHNESS: 18
Value: 13 350 Lgo
Value: Nanites 151, Mana 553

Field Cape (+5) CLOSE

Armour
Defence: 32
Effects: REPUTATION +10, AGILITY +5, TOUGHNESS +19, defence +30
Requirements: LEVEL: 41, STRENGTH: 41, AGILITY: 20
Value: 13 050 Lgo
Value: Nanites 196, Mana 559

In this case, preference over-comes superiority. The Vest gives more defence, but the cape has base rep, agility & a higher toughness increase. I'd personally choose the cape. Price wise, Vest is cheaper, costing you around 5 BS max. The cape would cost you around LS max, but worth it, I'd say.

Since you cannot afford any jewellery that could help you agility wise, it'll be a good idea to replace your "of strength" items with a titanium set.

TITANIUM SET BONUS:

(+5): Strength +6, Toughness +18

This set is effective against ranged + gunners. Plus the base items of the rings give a bonus to defence, strength and charisma beside the set bonus.
A suffixes titanium set with suffixes like youth & levitation would improve any character greatly. You're probably looking to pay 1-3 LS per piece, dependant on it's condition.

Your pants are fine, although I'd replace the trousers with shorts: Shorts of the Scout. Or maybe a super cheap option would be Light Shorts of the Rouge/Smuggler(1-10 bs). For shorts of the scout, maybe about 1/2 LS > 2 MS.

Your weapon needs a change! Good Murderous Mace (+1) should be your aim. It'll cost you no more than a LS. I'd also buy an Expensive Mace of Inquisitor, just to bump rep up for attacks against gunners.

I strongly recommend that you stick with BK. Smile

EDIT: This gear last me from level 25/30 -> level 50, with the odd upgrade here and there.

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shoulda come here much sooner, I saw all hat gear in auction yesterday D: plus I also had the expensive mace of inquisitor at one point..damn my luck. but ty, I saved the equipment in my notes, I guess ill see what others have to say about changing or not first.
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Agreed with franz. Your current gear needs to be thrown out the window. The scout trousers are an ok start. Defence + agility.

But mainly I would say the same. Adrenaline for head is a must aswell
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can I get something about other tats please? maybe berserker or a ranged weapon tat thats good for cultists, but NO 1H gun tats if thats all you can use for the tat. also, if i did get zerker tats if I used a 2H melee wouldnt it be just as good as BK?

EDIT: had a look at the perks of both BK and zerker, Ill stick with BK, has higher crit chance and a good hit chance, just need to get past equipment issues

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In my opinion the tattoo must be taken after LVL 50 or before passing it...

I think working tattoo until LVL 50 are only Snipers and assassins..

Because you do not need the gunner tattoo then just let a BK on you and just don't use it... until you can buy some good gears...

Example - something ~for assassins:
cap of adrenaline - cheap
light cape or cape of cobra - cheap
titanium chain or chain of accuracy
same for rings, or titanium rings or rings of accuracy
elvish shorts
you can use one or two handed weapons

and there is the difference of using or not the tattoo - you can use any gear you want if you use gun then change cap of adrenaline to precognition; if you have a cap of precognition you can use ranged...


After LVL 52-55 you will know 100% what is best for you - depending of item that you buy or find


PS: Demon Lord and Zerker are good only at high level -after 60, because of their requirements - too much defence and opposite zerker 0 defence - items like this are too expensive for a 50 LVL player

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Originally posted by franz
Comparing[Vest > Cape]
FIELD

Field Vest (+5) CLOSE

Armour
Defence: 50
Effects: TOUGHNESS +9, defence +30
Requirements: LEVEL: 43, STRENGTH: 40, AGILITY: 22, TOUGHNESS: 18
Value: 13 350 Lgo
Value: Nanites 151, Mana 553

Field Cape (+5) CLOSE

Armour
Defence: 32
Effects: REPUTATION +10, AGILITY +5, TOUGHNESS +19, defence +30
Requirements: LEVEL: 41, STRENGTH: 41, AGILITY: 20
Value: 13 050 Lgo
Value: Nanites 196, Mana 559
I would choose vest of deathsower over these for sieges, expos, and defences

Vest of the Death Sower (+5) CLOSE


Armour
Defence: 32
Effects: AGILITY +14, TOUGHNESS -4, all weapons damage +14, defence +12
Requirements: LEVEL: 43, STRENGTH: 49, AGILITY: 40, TOUGHNESS: 18
Value: 72 000 Lgo
Value: Nanites 151, Mana 553

quote:
Originally posted by Grizly
In my opinion the tattoo must be taken after LVL 50 or before passing it...

I think working tattoo until LVL 50 are only Snipers and assassins..
3rd level of Double strike tatoo can be used on 48th level, so it's not a bad idea for BK to start making this tatoo sooner.

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I would choose vest of deathsower over these for sieges, expos, and defences


I'm inclined to agree, however, the price for such an item may be outwith Lucifer's price range:

Vest of the Death Sower (+4) 4 0 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-07-07
15:18:47
Vest of the Death Sower (+3) 2 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 1 2011-07-06
19:24:26

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Originally posted by Undivisible
3rd level of Double strike tatoo can be used on 48th level, so it's not a bad idea for BK to start making this tatoo sooner.


I agree with you fully here. This is one of the most useful BK tattoos, especially if your character is an Act II Beastmaster.

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Originally posted by Undivisible
I would choose vest of deathsower over these for sieges, expos, and defences


I'm inclined to agree, however, the price for such an item may be outwith Lucifer's price range:

Vest of the Death Sower (+4) 4 0 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-07-07
15:18:47
Vest of the Death Sower (+3) 2 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 1 2011-07-06
True, but I think it's better investition than titanium set of jewellery:

Titanium Signet (+3) 1 50 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 2011-07-09
01:25:44
Titanium Bracelet (+3) 2 7 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-07-08
07:34:47
Good Titanium Signet (+1) 1 50 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 2011-07-05
17:54:20
Good Titanium Bracelet (+2) 1 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 2 2011-07-05
13:29:13
Good Titanium Bracelet (+1) 8 5 / 2 / 1 / 0 / 0 2011-07-03
04:29:33
Titanium Signet (+3) 2 7 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-07-01
08:09:54
Good Titanium Ring 2 7 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-06-30
08:22:10
Good Titanium Ring 5 0 / 1 / 0 / 0 / 0 2011-06-28
22:14:08
Titanium Bracelet (+5) 1 80 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 2011-06-28
06:11:03
Good Titanium Bracelet 1 100 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 2011-06-28
05:48:53
Good Titanium Ring (+1) 7 0 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-06-27
09:26:46
Good Titanium Bracelet (+1) 2 0 / 0 / 0 / 2 / 0 2011-06-26
21:00:05
Titanium Signet (+3) 1 0 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-06-22
14:25:36
Titanium Ring (+3) 4 7 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-06-22
09:49:36
Good Titanium Bracelet 7 8 / 0 / 1 / 0 / 0 2011-06-22
09:14:46
Titanium Signet (+3) 11 25 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 2011-06-17
03:02:21
Titanium Bracelet (+3) 5 54 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 2011-06-14
20:25:39
Good Titanium Bracelet (+1) 1 0 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-06-13
15:11:07
Good Titanium Bracelet (+2) 4 2 / 2 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-06-13
11:03:54
Good Titanium Bracelet 1 5 / 3 / 1 / 0 / 0 2011-06-12
19:56:51


The difference in damage would be similar, but vest of death sower gives 9 points of agility more, and you won't have to worry about losing set bonus if you decide to buy jewellery with agility bonuses.

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