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Agresiel
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GOOD+0-GOOD+1 Bloodstone: 8, Heartstone: 3, Lifestone: 2 TOTAL= 138
GOOD+0-GOOD+2 Bloodstone: 20, Heartstone: 7, Lifestone: 6 TOTAL= 390
GOOD+0-GOOD+3 Bloodstone: 38, Heartstone: 14, Lifestone: 12 TOTAL= 778
GOOD+0-GOOD+4 Bloodstone: 63, Heartstone: 25, Lifestone: 19 TOTAL= 1263
GOOD+0-GOOD+5 Bloodstone: 99, Heartstone: 42, Lifestone: 30 TOTAL= 2019
GOOD+1-GOOD+2 Bloodstone: 12, Heartstone: 4, Lifestone: 4 TOTAL= 252
GOOD+1-GOOD+3 Bloodstone: 30, Heartstone: 11, Lifestone: 10 TOTAL= 640
GOOD+1-GOOD+4 Bloodstone: 55, Heartstone: 22, Lifestone: 17 TOTAL= 1125
GOOD+1-GOOD+5 Bloodstone: 91, Heartstone: 39, Lifestone: 28 TOTAL= 1881
GOOD+2-GOOD+3 Bloodstone: 18, Heartstone: 7, Lifestone: 6 TOTAL= 388
GOOD+2-GOOD+4 Bloodstone: 43, Heartstone: 18, Lifestone: 13 TOTAL= 873
GOOD+2-GOOD+5 Bloodstone: 79, Heartstone: 35, Lifestone: 24 TOTAL= 1629
GOOD+3-GOOD+4 Bloodstone: 25, Heartstone: 11, Lifestone: 7 TOTAL= 485
GOOD+3-GOOD+5 Bloodstone: 61, Heartstone: 28, Lifestone: 18 TOTAL= 1241
GOOD+4-GOOD+5 Bloodstone: 36, Heartstone: 17, Lifestone: 11 TOTAL= 756
These are how much you will get for your stones if you break them down or keep them as useable ritual of blood stones, to use in the above totals for easy comparison
Soulstone=161
Mergestone=61
Lifestone=50
Heartstone=10
Bloodstone=1
So in 50 points you will gain
1 soul
2 merge
5 life
10 heart
50 blood
683 stones if you break them all down,
which isnt as much as i hoped i do think merge and soul should be allowed in this process esspecially soul as they really dont do much apart from tatts and bully auctions
Thanks diablo
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This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by Agresiel: 12-12-2008 13:19.
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diablo
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GOOD+4-GOOD+5 Bloodstone: 36, Heartstone: 17, Lifestone: 11 TOTAL= 756
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dooz
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Yes include SS somehow in Ritual of Blood, it might make it worth the ridiculous 500bs it count for in auctions.... Really good idea Agresiel
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minshres
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agree with u there. ls, hs and bs takes bloody ages to be collect. time consuming and sometime u see gd item in auction and u jus bid on the item and bam... u have to wait another year or so collect the stones u need to use ritual :/
definitely ss in ritual would be gd.
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It's a proposition so I'm moving it to the Game System. And I changed the thread title.
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Kleks
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one side that works against the idea
Soulstones are very rare and i doubt that ppl would simply merge SS from other stones. SS's are needed mostly to rise tattoos to top lvl 5 and for upgrades of perfect items (merging 2 perfect or 2 good+5 is more efficient but still the original thought is in place)
the other side that work for
SS's when you have your tattoos are pretty useless (getting g+5 and merging them is more efficient) so they can be used only on auctions... but... as you see current auction trends ppl are sick of SS's when they have 3,4 or 6 of them and they rather block them and get more life and hearth stones, so upgrading items with ritual that include soulstone would be something interesting.
Downside - you will save other stones- there will be more of kick "buts" items - therefore they will be more expensive (round circle)
So in this case i don't have any opinion, just thinking laudly and commenting the idea.
Including soulstones in ritual is interesting but think about bigger picture on long run economic influence
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Cthulhu
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Sorry for the necro-post; but did anyone ever hear back from the management regarding this idea?
Will it ever be considered that SS & MS get used in the Ritual of Blood?
Thanks.
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Beatrice_2
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i think thats a welll good idea.... unless i need something expensive on auction i break ss to upgrade sometimes anyways because i don't really need them :\ .... so i think ms a ss should up used in the ritual
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fool
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ms has some uses but ss never apart from tattoos
and actuions but most just put cancel one it
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05-10-2009 14:08 |
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just seen this, great idea, this would actually make the ss's pretty useful again for me.
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Scyanide
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its a good idea ... however it will make upgrading of items very easy ...
would be lovely to use ss ... however i am against it. everyone very quickly will be able to upgrade their equipment. And if you dont have any usage of ss's - break them then into smaller stones :-) this is what i am doing ... i have no use of it, so i am breaking 1ss into 1ms and 2ls and have stones for upgrades :-) maybe its not economical, however its better then collecting them :-)
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Scyanide
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thanks dooz :-)
maybe we can use ss as ritual for upgrades for perfect items and above ?
because right now a lot of items ( especially those basic one - caps, shirts, short ) can be used on good and above very quickly so with a little bit of luck someone 'fresh' can easily have his items on good+5 ... thats why i am against of it. It should take time to collect enough bs,hs and ls to upgrade some item... otherwise long time ago i will have everything on good +5 as i wish to have :-)
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NouveauNosferatu
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Originally posted by Scyanide
maybe we can use ss as ritual for upgrades for perfect items and above ?
because right now a lot of items ( especially those basic one - caps, shirts, short ) can be used on good and above very quickly so with a little bit of luck someone 'fresh' can easily have his items on good+5 ... thats why i am against of it. It should take time to collect enough bs,hs and ls to upgrade some item... otherwise long time ago i will have everything on good +5 as i wish to have :-) |
But it already costs ss for perfect and above upgrades, with 30% chance. So if it were to be used, it would have to be in the same context as ritual for good to good +5 (ie. it would take 13 ss, 8 ms to upgrade perfect to perfect+1, as it takes 2ls, 3hs and 8bs to upgrade good to good+1).
And if it would be that expensive, then surely upgrading 4 items to Good+5 and merging from then on would work out cheaper?
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NouveauNosferatu
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Originally posted by UG3
Not necessarily cheaper if you have tons of soulstones and no others . . . A soulstone is only worth 161 in ritual stones . . . And at the top end of the game stones aint the hardest things to collect |
True, and due to the exorbitant costs i mentioned above, it would wipe out stones pretty quickly, meaning people would have to sell more stuff that they would prefer to horde.
This would bring a lot more flavour to the auctions, and also give mid-level players a chance of winning rare items, as the top players may have spent their stone reserves on expensive upgrades.
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05-12-2009 16:30 |
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Agresiel
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Originally posted by dooz
Make them useful in Ritual of Blood, but make them count for less than 500, maybe make them count for 5 ls.
And i agree with Scyanide, upgrading items should not be made to easy.
I'd really like to see some use for SS, i prefer it to be something new however. Not just a new way to do old things |
this to me sounds like exactly where i was going with it, maybe make em so it lowers the cost of the ritual perhaps by a percentage or make it so ritual has a number ie good+4-good+5 =756 and you just have to match the number with the stones (make soul worth less than 500)
as dooz said something entirely new to do with souls i mean early on every 50 points is a big mile stone and you get a soul stone but the novelty wears off quick and the reality of what your left with hits you, for something so seemingly important its pretty much redundent
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maze
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epic idea dude, seriously, i think the board should this down for a vote amongst players, if the do, i vote yes
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Evangelion
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Maze, that's a warning for necroposting.
Next time check the date of the last post before you say anything.
Closed.
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