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Runes – open beta version – coming to UK on 1 August 2015
With great pleasure we would like to inform you that we have finished working on the runes!
We wanted very much to finish the work before BW's birthday so we decided to release it as an open beta.
This means that all the features we have planned will work but they still require some finishing touches and final balancing.
That is why we would like to ask you for comments on what you think about the system.
ATTENTION! You will RETAIN anything gained during the open beta!
Gaining runes
Runes are small powerstones that you can find on the new expedition map. The higher the location, the higher the chance of finding a rune. The chance for a rune from the first location is 10% and it increases by 10% with each subsequent location - 20%, 30% etc.
With location 11, you'll have 110% chance which means a guaranteed rune plus 10% for another.
Each rune you find will always be level 1.
There are a total of 14 types of runes divided into 4 colours, each of them can have 4 levels. Each rune has the same chance of dropping 1/14.
Elements, rune limit
Runes are divided by elements: fire, water, earth and soul.
You can have any number of runes on you but you can only use a maximum of 3 runes of each element, i.e. 3 runes of fire, 3 runes of water, 3 runes of earth and 3 runes of soul.
Rune power
By themselves, runes give you a small bonus to a chosen parameter.
E.g.: rune of fire can have either: ignoring defence, damage bonus or critical hit chance bonus. These bonuses are exclusive to runes of fire.
The other elements offer different bonuses: water provides bonuses to stats, earth to HP and defence, soul to luck and critical damage modifier.
Rune level
Runes can have levels from 1 to 4.
E.g.: rune of fire "Power" ignores 1, 2, 3 or 4% of defence
Activating a rune
In order for a rune to work, you have to put it into a talisman. No matter if the talisman is COMPLETE or not, the runes put into it will be active and provide you with bonuses and you'll be able to gain runic essence during attacks.
Levelling up runes
In order to get a level 2 rune, you have to merge 3 identical level 1 runes and use 300 points of runic essence. They have to be identical, not merely the same colour.
E.g.:
In order to get rune of fire "Power" level 2 you have to have three runes of fire "Power" level 1 and 300 points of fire essence.
In the same way, you need three level two runes and 900 points of essence to get a level 3 rune etc.
Runic essence
Every time you attack another player, you get some amount of runic essence.
The number of points gained is equal to the number of evo points + the number of active (placed in talismans) runes of a given element.
E.g.: if a player has two active runes of fire and one active rune of water, then when she gets 2 evo points for an attack, she will also get 2x2=4 pts of fire essence and 2x1=2 pts of water essence.
Bonuses that increase the number of evo points gained (temporary bonuses, events, daily bonuses) will also increases the number of essence points gained.
TALISMANS
The true power of runes is in the talismans. These ancient, magical symbols are created using unique combinations of elements and provide their users with mystical powers.
Each rune placed in a talisman is active meaning that players get essence points and the rune provides its bonus to the player.
In order to COMPLETE a talisman, all rune slots must be filled.
When a talisman is COMPLETE, it provides an additional bonus.
The power of the Talisman will be the power of the WEAKEST rune placed in it.
E.g.:
A talisman requires 1 red rune, 1 green rune and 1 blue rune.
If you place in it a red rune level 3, green rune level 2 and blue rune level 1, the power of the talisman will be level 1 (the power of the weakest rune).
Each character has the same number of talismans (17 for now) and each of them can be activated at any moment if you have the right runes.
Talismans differ by the number and colour of slots (3 to 5 slots) and the effects provided when they are complete.
Talisman limit
There is no limit to the number of talismans a player can use. The only thing that restricts you is the maximum number of runes of each colour that can be active at the same time (3).
How you divide them and what talismans you activate is complete up to you.
Moving runes between talismans is free and you can do it at any time.
Summary
1) Get runes at the second expedition map.
2) Place them in talismans so that they generate essence provide bonuses. You can change them at any time in the same way you change equipment. Essence can be spent on a differnt rune of the same colour.
3) Create combinations of powerful talisans to make your character even more powerful. Remeber that you can only have 3 active runes of the same colour.
4) Gain essence and level up runes to increase their power and gain access to higher level talismans.
We know that this short description does not cover everything but we hope it covers enough to make sure you are familiar with the system.
Best regards,
BWTeam.
PS. Rules of the new expedition map can be found here: Let's start testing the second expedition map!
PS2. A list of things that will be released AFTER the talismans:
1) Displaying active/complete talismans in spy reports.
2) Saving talisman combinations (the same way you save sets in the armoury).
3) Trading runes - we're thinkinh about it, probably only 1 for 1.
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theheraldofogc
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Well, THIS is exciting 
Going to have to keep all my characters running at Premium for essence now. ALMOST AS IF YOU PLANNED THIS 
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Szeszej
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Not yet sadly 
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theheraldofogc
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Will we still be able to get temporary passes to the new expo map, or will we require Chronos badges to even get started?
Related: Any chance of "Hunting Season" events that unlock all locations?
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Szeszej
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Everyone will get some free tickets for starters. Also, Chronos badge gives you access to some starting locations without the need of tickets, you can do the second map without it.
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theheraldofogc
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Thank you 
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theheraldofogc
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Any idea when this will be implemented?
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Is there a patch planned for this for implementation ?
Any idea on a delivery time for the patch, and also how long it will take ? (aka how long server will be down).
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Selmasore
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I'm not sure where to post this but there is a spelling mistake on Song of Blood
Level 1
Effects: each level of Blood of Life increases critical strike damage by 1% instead od providing regenerationLevel 1
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08-01-2015 12:25 |
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you really decided to screw absorbers and meelers over this time didnt you ;p?
levithan will be far too strong.
in pvp say i have 10 2h meele attacks.
each round i lose 1000 critical damage ............i can last 3 rounds max vs someone with very very low initial defence.
it'll allow easy soloing of expo's especially with blood of life.
also, come on absorbers extras are pathetic, night hunter and breath of death probably gives me much more damage ;p?
absorbers get..........................horror? most people have this already via dodges/mask and arnt going to drop those pieces for a 50% max chance of it..........
if we use power absorbtion, we dont want pathetic critical hit chance!!! give us either cheaper absorbtion or some additional damage per level! or defence or hp or anything else ;p
thoughtcatchers are getting massive damage and massive defence, beastmasters massive hp and chance to retalitate, cultists get massive damage bonus, big critical strike damage and extra hit chances.....and absorbers get what? a little luck(like max 20...you dont use 20 absorb anyway) and some small critical chance...
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08-01-2015 12:45 |
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Originally posted by Jmac
Yeah i think it should be inherently obvious that some of these will need to be majorly rebalanced, only time will tell what is overpowered in practice though, often times theory and practice don't match up
I don't think absorbers are nerfed though,
You can just use absorption, still get luck, more critical hit chance and stop the enemy getting all these hugely powerful upgrades (although as you wouldn't have the talismans a lot of the time I don't think you'll get the bonuses yourself) |
that would work say if power absorbtion cost half the price to use, but currently at level 104, i can barely use it on level 15.....and at this level say mask of xxx is easily useable muchmuch higher, we already have power of blood for critical hit chance and luck.............make it something different...
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08-01-2015 13:00 |
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Jmac
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Agreed, just to say to the devs this stuff is amazing! This has absolutely blown apart the previous bloodwars ceiling, great work and thanks a lot to everyone involved in the making of this!
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08-01-2015 15:28 |
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theheraldofogc
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Speaking of spelling errors, should Leviatan be Leviathan?
RUNES LOOK AWESOME! Less saying Nay and more getting them up and running properly to test them!
Remember this is all up for tweaking. Let's see how it plays out and if weaker gets boosted
Don't forget that some of the strongest Arcana based Talismans have a built in drawback of changing how you use your Blood Points. So Mask of Fear means a lot less health for a Thoughtcatcher, a Beastmaster switching to Beast's Hide loses a lot of Arcana based damage.
Absorbers, right now, I would say are better going right for Ziz. Your Power of Blood skips right over the drawback and you can just start enjoying the heavier crits
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Jmac
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08-01-2015 16:13 |
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theheraldofogc
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Do you have to get the last hit to open a portal?
Exactly like a badge attempt?
And if I want a ticket to the 5th location, is it Medusa I need to kill?
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08-01-2015 23:05 |
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Szeszej
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Typos will be fixed soon, thank you
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08-03-2015 07:03 |
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Do you ever shut up moaning? Ever?
If you don't like what other races get, just make some new jewellery.. Anybody can use any of the 2x standard arcana given by certain jewellery sets.
NOT EVER SINGLE PERSON IN THE GAME IS GIVEN HORROR. AND ITS MAXIMUM 50%
It also gives you the chance to use it in Expo as well. It's a great bonus.
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08-03-2015 19:31 |
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Jmac
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50% horror in ambush is HUGE for arenas, missing/noncrits are not, either being deliberately myopic for the sake of argument or unintentionally, who knows which
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08-03-2015 19:41 |
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im simply just pointing out what i think are the issues with these bonuses, do i not have freespeech?
i never actually said i was going to use this arcana and i already have made my plans so dont you worry
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08-03-2015 22:03 |
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Szeszej
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Remember this is still beta, we're working on the final balance.
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Szeszej don't listen to Hyperion, she's always critical of everything.
The rune system is great, and without an event like the one right now, essence collection will not be so fast and it will be a good challenge and time consuming effort to upgrade runes.
I don't think we will see OP talismans in the game until at least a few months.
The only thing I would want to ask about / point out is that I have seen expo reports from Lava Field (first location) where people are getting 2 runes (2 people, each got 2, in same clan, in same day) - when I read that 1st location only has 10% of chance for one rune.
Any comment on that ? Could you explain a bit more how the numbers are working please ?
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Szeszej
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Could you send me the reports?
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I personally agree with hyperion... there are a ton of things not balanced at all... and I'm not just talking this system... but since thats the topic... mask of fear is the massive one that stands out in my mind... cunning of blood set does balance it... cause everyone can use?
but thats what +100 to 400 base damage at high level... once someone gets level 4? so... 1600 extra damage a hit for some... like 600 for others? seems pretty massive compared to everything else from arcana to me... even compared too all other talismans...
I'll also add that I think its great that there is an option for everyone other than melee to get damage from arcana... but being 1h melee here... between mask of fear and leviathan talismans being pretty massive changes that weaken 1h melee compared to every other weapon type... (and nothing to really combat that) it seems I'm getting the shaft yet again...
I understand its still in beta... I'm just asking that as you guys work on final balance of runes... that you consider adding more gear/talismans/tattoo's etc. so that there are options... like it being much harder for most weapons to hit the person who didn't choose massive damage...
don't take things away... or nerf them please! add more!! =)
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08-04-2015 09:43 |
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Jmac
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Yep I think it's inherently understood that there will need to be some balance changes, but it'll be a few months at least before we see talismans being effectively utilised and which are overpowered and which aren't, but ofcourse you must consider the 'price' of talismans, so ones that require more runes should be more powerful.
Also don't forget runes themselves benefit melee nicely with the ignore defence which you can get 3 of.
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08-04-2015 11:02 |
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Phaera
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I am just trying to look at the balance side of things from the perspective of what people can do... using a spreadsheet... I already looked at the 'price' of talismans and runes... and what I am seeing right now, is that I will not be using ignore defense rune (power)... I'll be using crit hit (energy) and ziz if I'm not using mask of fear... and possibly both depending on expo/mob or ambush.
my best bet on my weapons is still just demonic... and titanium and everything else max damage... as the best way to deal with leviathan... which makes it so other options for damage (like fast/agile) are less good... enchantments still trap us in one set of gear so we gotta plan everything based on one set of gear.
and last but not least... I'll probably switch back to assassin, cause 20% ignore defense and the other stuff... and cause I see no point in monk tattoo with all the newer sources of damage (and for other people defense) completely dwarfing it.
so I'll be at 20% from tattoo, 20% from headband, 10% from chronos (when I do beat him - which I think is an option now) for 50% total... leviathan is still taking away 12.5 of my base damage (and every ranged weapon without ignore defense - it hurts everyone but guns) every time I crit... which is 14 times, or 20 times a round w/ a fast setup... either way... I have 2 rounds to kill them or I have lost far too much damage or they are probably healing when I crit them.
I still stand by my more options statement at the end of my last post... If I sound critical... understand that its just me trying to point out balance issues for them to look at... I like the system... and I would add more to it as well... like an option to add a socket to gear using essence (for only that color of rune) for more total runes... and I would make new weapon/armor/jewl types or make said rune sockets when used make things we already have more powerful in a balance things kinda way (like a big boost to clubs and small boost too thunderfists)... I would also change it so that the enchantments can get transferred to the runes that get socketed in things or anything else that makes it so we are no longer stuck in one set of gear.
more options means its very hard to plan for everything... and there is probably a way to counter everything... like something that does damage to a mob/player's stats (defense, agility, strength, whatever) there are tons of ways to go about it =)
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Szeszej
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Sorry, I've just got word that it's a last-minute change that hasn't been covered in the article:
YES, when you get a badge, you also get a guaranteed rune.
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08-05-2015 10:39 |
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Scourge
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well that is very very good to know
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08-05-2015 14:10 |
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Francois
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Do we get runes in ambush as I got attacked today and they won and got a water essence or something
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08-05-2015 17:45 |
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theheraldofogc
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You get Essence like evolution points, but only when Runes are equipped.
They work like mana and nanites but only for the corresponding Rune set.
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08-05-2015 17:52 |
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When calculating bonus from behemoth, do you include stats gained from arcana, disposables, evolutions and arena rewards?
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I don't see how absorbers get screwed. All those talismans that work on arcana will be useless once you block/absorb their arcana. And your absorb now have built in power of blood as well.
Also when you look at all those powerful arcana driven talisman, take a look at what you can't take because of them, they're all rather expensive.
Also please explain how solo expos will be easy with leviathan. Leviathan could be problematic for melee in ambush/arena. But useless against non-melee/ranged(and expo), and again, stops you from using other talisman. Maybe few people(myrkul) would activate this talisman for defense.
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That's a good question to which I haven't seen a clear answer szeszej.
If the arcana gets silenced (by an absorber), will the effect of the talisman (in the text triggered by the arcana for each race) still happen ? (ie horror in round 1, etc etc)
And secondly, if the arcana gets absorbed, will the absorber receive the bonus from the talisman ? 
)))))))))) Say yes please ?
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Ultimate power level 4: Each level of power absorbtion increase luck by 2 and crit chance by 0.75.
Absorber – Bloodmagic
Silence of blood - blocks effect of enemy's arcana, cost 15 blood points
Absorb power - absorbs enemy's arcana, cost 30 blood points
Act 2: Power of Blood
+2 luck, +0,75% chance for critical hit per level, costs 25 blood points
So... im a secific gear and i can choose:
Use 35 power absorbtion .... for 35 x 2 luck and 35 x 0.75 crit...
Use 43 power of blood and get ... 43 x 2 luck and 43 x 0.75 crit...
I wonder... is this a useless Talisman ?
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