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Demandred
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Why is my dmg reduced so much?

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Problem description: why is my crit damage so low?
https://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid...&key=9ebea9526d
I've got a crit rate of 328% so how are my crit hits so low???

700 is nowhere near 328% of 325...

https://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid...&key=061b7574e3
In this fight my non crits hit with around 400dmg (+75dmg) but the crit hits are about 600dmg stronger than the first example. I also dont have ambition active in this one so my dmg should be at least 35 lower.

I cant make any sense of this at all...
--- why is my dmg so much higher is the second example?
--- I use ranged so dmg is only reduced by 1/4 defence, so how can an additional 170 defence reduce my dmg by so much? (Ignore 2% of dmg only counts for around 8dmg) If I take into account the +35dmg from ambition it means I was reduced by an additional 110dmg. This is way more than should happen overall
---I also have ignore 13% defence, so this makes things even more questionable

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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Demandred: 12-01-2017 14:38.

11-26-2017 16:25

Konrad
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Do you have more reports like the first one, in which critical dmg is about 30% lower than expected?

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11-28-2017 07:46

Demandred
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Thread Starter Thread Started by Demandred

Unfortunately I dont have any other reports at the moment.
But it isnt the first time my damage has looked off (just the most glaringly questionable), so I'll post up here if/when it happens again.

But it's not just the crit damage that seems off... how can 170def lower my non-crit dmg by ~110?! Without ignore defence even factored in, it shouldnt be possible to lower it more than 43... (~50 with ignore dmg from his def)

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11-28-2017 09:33

Konrad
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There are many effect infuencing final dmg - there is for example 'ignore dmg' effect - take a look at changelog of patch v. 1.4.26.
Are you sure you had additional critical mod in the first battle? As I can see in source code, there are no additional modifiers - it's just dmg * crit mod.

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11-29-2017 06:55

Demandred
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Thread Starter Thread Started by Demandred

As I stated in my first post, my opponents defence earned a 2% ignore attack bonus (meaning ignore approx. 8dmg), not enough to make up for the loss of dmg. (100def = 1% ignore atk)

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Are you sure you had additional critical mod in the first battle? As I can see in source code, there are no additional modifiers - it's just dmg * crit mod.

What do mean by additional critical mod?
I had the same evos and my crit dmg bonuses are from my weapon and tattoos, and my crit % should be the same in both also (although that shoudnt effect crit dmg)

The problem is also in how much my damage was reduced for non-criticals. So crit dmg is only part of the problem

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11-30-2017 16:36

Ba_al
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silly question demandred

but did you by any chance change your enchants between those 2 attacks ?
removed a dmg enchant perhaps ??

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12-01-2017 08:36

Demandred
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Thread Starter Thread Started by Demandred

Only enchants I changed lately was from +20dmg to +1dmg/4lvls, so that would bring my dmg up anyway.
But I'm pretty certain that change was a week before the earlier attack anyhow

Edit:
https://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid...&key=53ae09ded2
I can see that his stats are different here, so not sure whats different in his setup, but his def is basically the same here so figured it would make an ok comparison. (Note; I'm not using ambition in this one)

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12-01-2017 09:59

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