Szeszej
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Are you in favour of implementing Caravan Deluxe as a premium option?
More info:
- costs 30 days of premium for 30 days of caravans.
- xp gained is down by 10%
- blood gained is down by 10%
- the drop will be identical with normal quests but the chance to pass the quests will be reduced by 5% no matter the type or the number of quests.
- arcana will be disabled.
- LGO cost identical to normal caravan.
The point of this is to give an option to people who for a period of time have less time for the game.
With regards
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Mortis
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No, not interesting for paying for it. If there won't be any restrictions then yes.
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Cthulhu
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Question 1:
As I understand it, this will give us the option to set auto caravans - if I did not want to log in & set one off, it will automatically be set off - is that right?
Question 2:
will there be an option for this to work whilst in holiday mode?
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Mortis
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A1: I don't think it will be automatic.
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04-29-2009 22:27 |
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Raxis
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Yes. Simply becasue I remember when this would have severely helped me. A good, useful idea for those who have little time at certtain points
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Nemazis
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Originally posted by DemonDude2
The difference here being that the caravans now - LGo cost increases for every extra quest you do
- 75% chance of finding one item per quest and 25% of finding none
- Experience and blood gained on caravan is equal to 80% for 2 quests -5% for every subsequent quest to minimum of 50%
So basically they want you to pay so that - you get slightly more blood and exp than normal caravans, but still less than doing each quest individually.
- Drops are the same as normal quests, as opposed to getting worse for every extra quest you do
I cant see anyway i could have made that clearer
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Oh ok then, that clears up the "Drops will be identical with normal quests" bit, the rest i already understood.
So basically assuming you done all your quests in 1 caravan, you earn 60% exp in every quest instead of 50%, same for blood, and instead of ONLY finding stuff like "Shorts +1" and "Turd -4" you'll find prefixed/suffixed items at the same rate as before.
Will edit if numbers are wrong
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Nemazis
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Originally posted by DemonDude2
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Originally posted by Nemazis
So basically assuming you done all your quests in 1 caravan, you earn 60% exp in every quest instead of 50%, same for blood
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Huh? How do you work out 60% a quest, Did it not say 10% less a quest? So instead of earning 100% experiance, you get 90% ... thats what i got from it anyway lol
Im still voting doesnt effect me, as i like to do them 1 at a time |
I'm assuming sjblah saying "goes down" was a typo, because if it wasn't, then it's REALLY not worth it. Doesn't affect me, but if it's 10% more exp, then yeah i vote yes, if it's 10% down then i wanna change my vote to no.
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Nemazis
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Originally posted by DemonDude2
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Originally posted by Nemazis
I'm assuming sjblah saying "goes down" was a typo, because if it wasn't, then it's REALLY not worth it. Doesn't affect me, but if it's 10% more exp, then yeah i vote yes, if it's 10% down then i wanna change my vote to no. |
Why is this bad? Right now its a bijillion times worse!! |
Is it? Looks like both are crappy if my assumption is right
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experience and blood gained on caravan is equal to 80% for 2 quests -5% for every subsequent quest to minimum of 50%, |
Right now if you do 24 quests on caravan you only get 50% exp!
With this premium option, you can do 24 quest caravans and only loose 10% on each quest, as opposed to 50% for each quest |
Ah... i thought it would stack on top of the standard 50%, if it's just 10% lost overall, then FLIP YEAH, stick it in (the pooper =P)
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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Nemazis: 04-30-2009 14:58.
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DemonDude, you're right. The most essential part is the one regarding drops. For example in z1 you get 3 items (or less) on each quest. If you do a standard caravan you get one or no items. Thats the main difference, you can do caravans and still find as many items as if you woud do 1 by 1 quests.
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Cthulhu
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Ahh, right. I get it now - it was a typo. When people say percentages are going down, I am thinking chance of success is going down. If the chance of success "rate" is going down, thus the chance of success is actually going up, then I keep my vote at YES.
Phew, that was hard work - you can tell I have had a bad week at work!
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Doesn't matter.
That don't apply on fighting and I do my quests 1 by 1 ^^
Have more items in caravan could be kool. But when I kaunch caravan, it's clearly not 30 days... 1 day... 2 maybe.... Those who launch caravan each day would not have premium, they don't care. I'm doing it on the UT1 french server with my old character
Expensive I think. Why don't think about Tokens. 30 days premium = 30 caravan delux (and a milkshake please...)
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05-25-2009 20:16 |
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Originally posted by Szeszej
Are you in favour of implementing Caravan Deluxe as a premium option?
More info:
- costs 30 days of premium for 30 days of caravans.
- xp gained is down by 10%
- blood gained is down by 10%
- the drop will be identical with normal quests but the chance to pass the quests will be reduced by 5% no matter the type or the number of quests.
- arcana will be disabled.
- LGO cost identical to normal caravan.
The point of this is to give an option to people who for a period of time have less time for the game.
With regards
SM |
I dont know how to make this any clearer tbh :S
Its costs 30 days of premium to get 30 days of Caravan Deluxe. You gain 10% less blood and xp.
However the drop will be identical to normal quests (caravans usually drop less items).
Chance to pass is reduced by 5%.
You cant use arcana, and it will cost the same as a normal caravan
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Yess Thankkyyoou
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diablo
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Just for comparison:
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# for every zone and difficulty level there is 75% chance of finding one item per quest and 25% of finding none. It means that with 10 quests you may get 0 to 10 items,
# experience and blood gained on caravan is equal to 80% for 2 quests -5% for every subsequent quest to minimum of 50%, |
I voted yes, it might help some people.
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04-29-2009 12:41 |
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Szeszej
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It's meant to be this way so it is not overused
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04-29-2009 12:43 |
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Bezetta
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it doesn't effect me, but i vote yes for it... If it helps people its gotta be good
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04-29-2009 12:47 |
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Nosforano
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voted yes, although I rarely use caravans on Underworld but do sometimes on Necro (although won`t be paying for the privellage)
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Szeszej
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ad 1 Nope, it only affects caravans
ad 2 same as with normal caravans
ad 3 Possible, but we have our ways of discovering such bots
ad 4 anti-bot system will stay the same
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04-29-2009 17:20 |
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Nemazis
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Originally posted by oh_teh_noes
Woah hold on Sj,
Why not have this option, for 2x...3x or something LGO instead of paying money irl. Just a little thought for you to consider. |
Ok, think about the lower players who like to just quest and get off. Now think how much junk they got -.-
They could use enough money to fund this for most probably a year or more >_< I say keep it with prem (despite not caravaning, except maybe 3/4 when waiting for an expo to finish)
Anyway, if it did cost money to use this option, then it'd have to cost loads IMO
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CESARZ
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absorber can't use his arcane i wote on now
its waste for all absorbers because he don't have useful expedition ar=rcane, also all race get easy from lvl and now he can't use his arcane on this caravan i vote on no its unfair
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04-29-2009 23:26 |
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Raxis
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But CESARZ all arcana is disabled in all types of caravans
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Guys, its not that difficult. This is not 'automatic' caravaning while you're not online. It is a better caravan than the ordinary one (as I explained already). You still have to log in to start it. Where does it say the game will automatically do your quests?!
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Originally posted by Szeszej
- xp gained is down by 10%
- blood gained is down by 10%
- the drop will be identical with normal quests but the chance to pass the quests will be reduced by 5% no matter the type or the number of quests.
- arcana will be disabled.
- LGO cost identical to normal caravan.
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Cthulhu
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Nemazis
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Has anyone actually realised the point of this caravan? It's so you earn more exp/blood than a usual caravan.
Ok now i think about it, it's not much of a boost, maybe you should make it 10% LGO cheaper aswell or something... or maybe can use a small amount of arcana, needs abit more of a boost than that.
I still vote yes though.
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04-30-2009 14:26 |
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I voted doesn't matter to me.
But i will say, i will try it and if i like it, i'll get it every other month.
Reason being i'm usually skint half of the year.
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