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One of my new a more crazy ideas for some action in the game.
Clans versus location.
Description-
Generally a clan can choose to siege a monster location and fight all the monsters there.
F.E. if you decide to siege White tower you will have to fight 40 whites, 5 blacks and one hydra.
The expo would look more like a siege listing all the monsters at once .
To suceed all monsters must die and at least one member of the clan stay alive.
-there would be a separate expo option for this .
-clan leader is the person who can decide when and what location does the clan want to siege
-joining works as on sieges, no accept/decline
-time of preparation 18 hours (the clan needs to march together and this takes time)
-option available only 1 , maximally 2 a month.
-there is no chance to recieve a badge from this kind of expo.
-Locations available equal to the locations available to the clan leader
-rewards will be much higher than on a normal expo, and would be divided between the clan
-resources can be gained (namely blood and lgo, monsters don't hold people)
-experience will be divided the usual way as on a normal expo.
aim:
-to have a lot of fun
-to have a clan challenge available
-chance of getting more pop, and help the clan progress as a whole
-giving a chance for people who dont get on expos to experience it once a month.
-keeps clan spirit and can be a source of fun and excitement for people.
Please let me know your thoughts :-)
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That my friend is a bloody good idea 
I want that now lol sounds awesome to me.
Will level limitations still apply? And will PoH have to be contributed towards starting one? And will there just be an infinite ammount of monsters with this option?
Rewards idea maybe even rewards if you fail like whoever gets the kill gets a bs/hs/ls depending on the difficulty of the mosnter no matter whether you win the overall battle or not.
Sounds like a big challenge though in some areas would mean that it would take time for clans other than BoS to be able to get past Desert Ephermeh but I think it's a great idea and would love to see it implemented asap. But I know that is unlikey because there will be some random reason why it can't 
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HamsterGod
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My original idea is no cost towards starting and accepting,
As like a siege, people just join after its started.
For it not to be an easy source of pop, stones, items and resource I think the rewards should come in
after all monsters there are killed :-)
As you mentioned I guess not many clans would even try the arachne or medusa locations
because of the giant monsters, but then people might try just to have the ride ,
can be cool just to have a trip against 4xr!!! and 2 anubisis and see how long the clan lasts :-)
Also I empashe on the idea to have this option once a month , so it doesnt turn into a
pop makining machine.
The only issue I have is the number of rounds, if it should remain 10 or go to 15.
Otherwise thanks for your opinion :-)
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i think it sounds liek a good idear but i think there should be a cost on joining so it isent just as easy as joining 
might be a way of spening poH i.e. members put pop in to guild PoH and the cost depends on the section you are going to.
or have it so you need guild PoH and to get guild PoH you have to siege other clans in order to get guild honor points that way seiges would come back in to action and you would be able to seige monsters as a big clan
(last bit was spawnralooms idear)
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Chanieyy
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Originally posted by HamsterGod
One of my new a more crazy ideas for some action in the game.
Clans versus location.
Description-
Generally a clan can choose to siege a monster location and fight all the monsters there.
F.E. if you decide to siege White tower you will have to fight 40 whites, 5 blacks and one hydra.
The expo would look more like a siege listing all the monsters at once .
To suceed all monsters must die and at least one member of the clan stay alive.
-there would be a separate expo option for this .
-clan leader is the person who can decide when and what location does the clan want to siege
-joining works as on sieges, no accept/decline
-time of preparation 18 hours (the clan needs to march together and this takes time)
-option available only 1 , maximally 2 a month.
-there is no chance to recieve a badge from this kind of expo.
-Locations available equal to the locations available to the clan leader
-rewards will be much higher than on a normal expo, and would be divided between the clan
-resources can be gained (namely blood and lgo, monsters don't hold people)
-experience will be divided the usual way as on a normal expo.
aim:
-to have a lot of fun
-to have a clan challenge available
-chance of getting more pop, and help the clan progress as a whole
-giving a chance for people who dont get on expos to experience it once a month.
-keeps clan spirit and can be a source of fun and excitement for people.
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Yes But What if A Small Can Dicded To Do One And Only Killed Maybe 5 Of Them There Would Be No Point IN Havein It As The Higher Clan Would Just Do Them When They Could And Level Up Much Faster Then Tey Are Now But The Idea Is Awsome But he Down side Is You Have to Kill Them All Why Not If You Kill 1 You Get Maybe 100 exp Each Kill Like On a Poh Seige You Get 100 poh Per Kill I Would Be Impossible To Kill The Whloe Of Them For Littel Clans As A Hydra Kills Most Of People In The 2nd Round Thats The Only Downside To This Idea It Should Be Changed To 100 exp Per Kill And If They You Kill Them All You All Get a Ss Each And Maybe an Extra 500 exp Or Someting But The Rest Is Realy Good Idea
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I see problems attacking a certain location, all monsters killed there, no monsters for propa expos thats gunna cause havock.
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Sarahahaha
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"-there would be a separate expo option for this "
meanits only ing that it wouldent take up from the orrigonal expo monsters i think
and since its only twice a month and not all monsters would be killed all the time since its a majure challange
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HamsterGod
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Under a seprate option as sarahaha has said I meant that it would have a separate monster pool.
Something like a tab in the expo section.
Personally I dont think big clans would level up so fast on this,
f.e. if you go into a location with rom and rem and they cast infernal visions
a good deal of the players wont attack anyway.
For smaller clans a hydra on the whites can be a challenge as nobody would attack the first round.
For bigger clans special attacks of bigger monsters could kill of the whole clan as you
wouldn't be able to attack and get attacked by lets say 12 monsters at the same time.
I meant the idea more as a clan kind of thing where the clan can get an opportunity to do a giant siege
once a month against expo monsters.
Also as for the cost of joining I think it would be better as a siege because it would challenging enough
even without having to use poh. Or then maybe each participant can pay his participance from his own PoH.
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Apollo
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I think if people had to pay their own PoH to join in there would be some people reluctant to join especially if it looks like a lost cause becuase we all know how tight some people can be with their PoH
I think like a seige is the only way to do it because otherwise people may be confused about how to join. And would there be a possibility to run expos at the same time as this mammoth expo monster seige thing?
I think it would be a great thing to do when there are hardly any mobs left in areas and respawing costs about 3k PoH.
But the only reason I don't see it happening is maybe too much server lag I don't know hope its introduced though
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Sarahahaha
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chaneiy if you did it only one set of mobs oujt of the place then high levels really would get a higher advantage since some of them can 2man some of the mobs that give them xp with ease, so taking on an extra 4-5 wouldent make any difrance if you had the rest of the clan with them as well
i still think clan PoH that you can only get from fighting other clans would work
(players don't donate it you just have to win a siege agianst anouther clan)
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Apollo
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Originally posted by Chanieyy
As I Said -The Down side Is You Have to Kill Them All - Heres My Ideas Mixed with Yours
-there would be a separate expo option for this .
-joining works as on sieges, no accept/decline
-time of preparation 18 hours (the clan needs to march together and this takes time)
-option available only 1 , maximally 2 a month.
-there is no chance to recieve a badge from this kind of expo.
-Evry Kill You Get 100 exp
-If All Killed Evry1 Gets And Additional 500 exp + a random stone
-A Choice To Choose Witch Mob You Fight (e.g White Drags , Black Drag, ect.)
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To be honest your idea sounds a bit too easy
after people started getting better people would just get bored of it the original idea is more of a challenge and what do you mean you can choose your mob? Because if you mean you get to take on all of the ones of the mob u choose from that area then you could just choose easy ones like the 1 noble phoenix in the great steppe so surely you dont mean that? 
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Apollo
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you can always call in help though like get 1 or 2 mercs in to help you but thats the point as you get better as a clan you will be able to progress and get closer to defeating them all and thats why I said have a reward for each one you kill so if you only get through 5 then you get to split the exp or stones. But if you can choose what you go against its a bit boring and too easy in my opinion 
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Great idea, killing everyting would be pretty hard on alot of locations but it would be something to work towards, for big and small clans. I think u should have to kill them all 
or mabye exp for half and bonus for killing all?
I dont see how this would greatly benefit high or low players in terms of pop but it would be fun and would give members something to look foward to and strive for. 2 thumbs up from me xD
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Artoir.
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Originally posted by Chanieyy
Well The People Who can 2 man Mobs will be goin for higher things like madusas and stuff un likes lil clans were if theyhad to fight evrythin in ther i was n an expo the ova day were wa was fightin a red There 6 of us and we all died And most of the people were like nerli level 60 so it would be harder for little clans vs 40 white drags and so on |
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Yes It Might Be Abit Borin But If Sayy [SOD] Whent Against 40 White Drags and Only Killed 10 The Exp Would Still Be Abit Low For Evry1 Say They Had Evry Clan Member In Like 35 And 10 Drags at (1900) hp divided by 35 Rouned Down is 540 Witch Isnt Very Much Witch That Puts My Idea Out Of Perspective So Yeah If You Think About It The Orginal Idea Was Good
Sept The Bit Were You Have To Kill Evrythin |
The official language of this board is English, please give it a go
This idea does look good, but I think even the biggest clan may have a hard time against 40 White Dragons :S
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HamsterGod
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I was just going with the current amount of monsters in the various locations, maybe if this idea would be viable the numbers of mobs could be lowered or they could have stats more around the average for the particular monsters.
I guess the Act 1 and 2 monster stat change would not count in this as it could make the 40 whites an army of angry dragons ;-)
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spawnraloom
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i think it would be funny tbh to watc hthe top clan get mobed by white dragons
(just when you think you are safe from the weakest monster it comes along with its hole family....)
i think the idear is good but still needs tweeking just not 100% sure on what the tweeking should be :S
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maybe add special locations strictly for this purpose with an assortment of mobs as i think 40 white dragons over 10 rounds would be excessive (looking at doing 80k damage in 10 rounds minimum)
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maybe add special locations strictly for this purpose with an assortment of mobs as i think 40 white dragons over 10 rounds would be excessive (looking at doing 80k damage in 10 rounds minimum) |
people hit 17k damage on large expo mobs, a dragon with low defence, no challenge.
however this option already exists, is called wendigo :p
i do like this, but i cant see wh ythe devs would implement, is of no benefit to the game (money wise)
so premium only option? it can cost days of premium.
dont shoot me down for saying spend premium, but why else would devs make this?
first of all BW is a business, secondly it's a game.
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becouse by implementing new idears in to a game it keeps the paying customers if you have it so only a clan leader can do it then to start a clan you need to be a premuim user any way don't you? so you must of spent some money on it :S and if you make your customers happy by making the game more fun then they will tell others about the game and about a cool new systam,
there by geting ither new members back or old ones who got bored of the old systam would come back becouse they like the sound of the new patch :S
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Artoir.
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becouse by implementing new idears in to a game it keeps the paying customers if you have it so only a clan leader can do it then to start a clan you need to be a premuim user any way don't you? so you must of spent some money on it :S and if you make your customers happy by making the game more fun then they will tell others about the game and about a cool new systam,
there by geting ither new members back or old ones who got bored of the old systam would come back becouse they like the sound of the new patch :S |
↲↲Yep that's the idea anyway
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Originally posted by Chanieyy
Well The People Who can 2 man Mobs will be goin for higher things like madusas and stuff un likes lil clans were if theyhad to fight evrythin in ther i was n an expo the ova day were wa was fightin a red There 6 of us and we all died And most of the people were like nerli level 60 so it would be harder for little clans vs 40 white drags and so on |
where the hell has this idea that only the top lvl players 2 man mobs come from? \o_O/
are you honestly trying to suggest that it'd be impossible for 2 small players to 2 man a white drag?
not everything is made for smaller players eg. act 2 does't come in till lvl 50 and act 3 wont come in till after that in terms of level.
only thing i have a question about would be badges (excuse me if you've already answered this) what happens if you go out as a clan to massacre all 40 white drags and people without their white drag badges get killing blows, will they then get badges since its an expo or will they be denied badges?
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Apollo
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-there is no chance to recieve a badge from this kind of expo. |
Plus the leader starts the expo so people who have the killing blow wouldnt get it anyway cos they don't start it.
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damn good idea imo but i think the mob of all 40 WD shoudln't be increased fr act 2 players or somthin like that to make this a bit more doable cuz like forty WD i cant even kill one on my own
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i think its a well good idea
but yes i think the chances of success on this are slim, as in the white dragon 40 white dragons... but yeah maybe if it were only a few of each mob in the area :S not something like 40 coz it would be pointless for smaller clans, because they wouldn't stand a chance at having a go :S
also having like the things attacking you, yes there will be like a lot of people there IF IF IIIFFF they join if its like a siege set up, people are not very forth coming in joining things anymore and it would be a waste of time to do if not the hole of the clan or the good majority of the clan doesn't participate,
also won't you need a lot of HP ... coz like a mob can hit like 2-3-400 damage a hit, and if there are going to be a few of them in there ... no one would survive. because its not gunna be like a siege is it and these mobs depending on which area you chose they aren't easy to kill really are they :S so with the HP that the mods have, and the HP you have there will be no chance for each player to stay alive long enough to stand a chance at winning this clan expo
or have i just got that all completely wrong :S
i duno.... i like the idea of it a lot it will shake a few things up like, .... but i don't think if it stands as it is, it wouldn't be very successful to a weak clan :S or maybe even to a strong clan :S
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HamsterGod
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Why fewer I think the whole challenge would be about trying to wipe out a location :-)
anyway I believe the strongest clans could wipe out some locations by themselves ,
and for the smaller ones if the pop counts together after a succesful siege expo it could really help them progress.
Certainly it would need for everybody to focus and make the clans stronger but I would say this would be a positive change.
With the siege set up I think most people would be happy to join as they won't loose PoH :-D
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Very good idea, you have my support.
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haha you gotta point
about them not losing poh ...
well yeah it would be really good to see it happen like, i would be like the first one but i was over thinking about it. but still i recon HP and stuff like that would be an issue
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There is already a similar idea on the Polish board and it has gained some official support (but no thing is 100% sure yet). Basically there will be another realm which has a limit of time, after the time runs out some big boys attack your clan like 40 White Dragons. Whoever survives can go on, the ones who lose are eliminated forever and will be able to play only after a new round of monsters has started. This is a very broad outline of the project but I hope you get the point
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Artoir.
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There is already a similar idea on the Polish board and it has gained some official support (but no thing is 100% sure yet). Basically there will be another realm which has a limit of time, after the time runs out some big boys attack your clan like 40 White Dragons. Whoever survives can go on, the ones who lose are eliminated forever and will be able to play only after a new round of monsters has started. This is a very broad outline of the project but I hope you get the point
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Ah so a group of people start playing as normal and they have a certain amount of time to strengthen enough to take on 40 White Dragons? If they win, they get more time and move onto Blacks? Sounds extra nifty 2 pounds fifty!
Although I can see this being a big problem for a few reasons.
1. Server size. Large servers make busy auctions allowing people to buy and sell more often and progress faster. I can't see temporary servers like this filling up as well as neco/underworld servers?
2. Premium. With the risk involved, I can see limited amount of players paying for premium as well. Effectively halving progress again.
3. Strength. Take BOS for example. If they could take on 40 White Dragons, that's only because they are well established and most of the members have been playing for years (literally), and this is on a busy, fast moving server. Taking into account points 1 & 2, it would take a lot longer for players to reach the level to take on such a force.
And when you say the ones who survive, is that individual players or whole clans?
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I like the idea thumps up from me but can any clan seriously kill 40 white's in ten rounds that's an average of 4kills per round???
Or will this this just be for the top 3 to 4 clans in the game???
Yes I know there are merc's.
I like the idea I also think they should throw in the muntant's and werewolves from the zone 5 task might as well so it could look like something like this
10 clan members Vs 5 whites 4 werewolves and 2 Muntants
(the werewolves and muntants can be the Dragon's meat sheild)
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