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some thing really needs to be done about this because this is really fustrating i tried upgrading my cap of adrenaline to good 2 times in one day and its really annoying cant the DEVs increase the percentage of the upgrading to good

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It is supposed to be quite difficult, although the BW randomiser does seem to be out to get the players sometimes Tongue

I'm not too happy about it myself but I wouldn't say it's unfair. You just have to keep trying. You could always merge if you're REALLY annoyed but you should save that for Perfect+ were it's REALLY harsh.

For now, just think of every 10th point as an attempt to upgrade. The Lifestone to start, the Heart and Blood to recover lost levels afterwards. It's rushing that gets you in to trouble in this and most other games. Grit your teeth and hope for a reasonable Auction worthy drop that will let you try again.

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dont worry mate ive been there before lol

in total my cap trying to upgrade ive wasted 5 LS in total and now you think im gritting my teeth im bouncing off the walls lmao its more like a 20% chance so much for 50% chance Mad

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It all depends on your luck. I upgraded a Murderous Mace of Betrayal and Shorts of Shepherd to Good (+1) without a single fail. You just have to keep trying until you succeed Smile

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there is 2 ways


like they just said about the luck

2nd is they should be a shop item to use like +30% to upgrade

or something like that Tongue

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2nd is they should be a shop item to use like +30% to upgrade

or something like that Tongue

What are you talking about? There's no such item and there won't be...

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i was just saying they should be an item to upgrade if its like +5 to good because the chance is 50% u should have a shop item to make it like 80% Tongue

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Upgrading items is meant to be hard so such item will never be implemented.

No risk, no fun Smile

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well put the item as like 100 thousand then if it don,t wrok then u just lose loads of money Tongue

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If you'll upgrade some items 100 000 times then you'll see that ~50% succeeded. The more times you upgrade the more clear it becomes.

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ok so ive attempted to upgade my cap 5 times dont you even think thats more than enough times i mean come on

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if youre finding it hard now i cant wait to get to perfect
my flexble shirt +3
i could use it at +5 so upgraed it to +4 then again but it dropped and again and so on
currently its at +1
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well unlucky mate its 6 times now 3 times inside 24 hours this is ridiculous

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Nothing's wrong with upgrading items.

Item upgraded Light Dagger of Hitting (+5) -> Good Light Dagger of Hitting !

Just a minute ago I've upgradet it...

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lol i swear down you are so lucky but im well annoyed tho

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well i failed good to good +1 five times then when the update came in to get lots of stones i made it good +5 from +5 no fails
now waiting to get perfect
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ive posted in a thread similer to this.i upgraded my light dagger of agility +3 all the way to good +5 without one fail.so i think theres noting wrong.u might be having bad luck now but u might be succesful 3 or 4 times in a row.

so all in all i think the upgrading is ok.

but if the devs want to increase the chance by 10% say we wont complain *promise*
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Don't forget that the only real hurdle is +5 > Good

Then it's down to choice. Ritual of Blood? Or gamble. Personally I WON'T be gambling. I'd rather take it slow then take a risk Tongue

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i must admit then my luck is soooo bad i just attempted to upgrade my good hunting rifle to good +1 and it has failed no surprise there Mad

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Then you should have used ritual of blood Wink

If youre upgrading without it you should always have enough stones to get it back up to the original level in case it fails Smile

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i gambled look where it got me

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Same I got my Shorts of Shepherd to Good +2 with no fails Smile

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bloodwars must hate me then Frown

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same here i always seem to go down not up i have 13 luck and i go down all the time i can,t get to good Shocked

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I have a problem upgrading too, all i wanted to do was get my good hunting rifle to +1 and i failed. I wasted 6 lifestones, 4 heartstones and about 15 bloodstones trying to get it back and now it is currently a hunting rifle +2. I thought fine it can stay that way Big Grin I'll just stick to my sniper rifle.

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when it goes from 50% its hard i think there should be a shop item to help it upgrade Tongue

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personally i dont think it will ever happen to buy it in the shop but it could be found and it could be bloody rare item to that will help upgrading items e.g.

Helpful ring (+3)

apperance +4 chances to upgrade items are increased by 5%

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Na youve just been unlucky Wink

I spent almost a SS gettin my cap of precog to Good +3

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just one small question to do with all the upgrading, when it says 50% chance for succsess does that mean that about half of all items you attempt to upgrade to good will succseed/fail, or half of all the items everyone on the server tries to upgrade will fail?
for example, scillage managed to upgrade a cap of precignition to good+5 without a single fail, while other people, e.g artoir have spent almost a ss getting the same cap to good+3
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Just 50% chance for each item trying to be upgraded. So if you have 2 items you are trying to upgrade to good, 1 will succeed and 1 will fail...

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It means every time anyone tries to upgrade, theres a 50% chance it will succeed.

That doesnt mean that everyone will have half and half, just that the probability is 50%

So if scillage gets his cap to Good +5 without fail, when he goes to get it to perfect, the chance will still be 30% (i think its 30?)

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yea it is 30% good luck on that if you ever are going to do that scillage lol i just must be freakishly unlucky then Frown

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I don't know yet. I just wish that there was a 'Ritual of Blood' for upgrades from Good (+5) to Perfect Crying

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even if there is thats going to cost a ton of stones Red Face

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Yea from Good +3 to +4 costs 7LS, 11HS, 25 BS Frown

Nearly a SS


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I'd much rather pay a SS that all those stones. I have a SS now but not the stones and if I split the SS I won't get that many anyway.

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just upped my cape and gun to good +2 and good +1 and with only price of HS Smile 60% chance of succeful upgrade, i am luckiest ever so i saved a lot of stones in those updates =)
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i had a murderous knife on good +3. tried to upgrade to good +5 and now its back to crap +4

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