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acidic shots
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FIX!! the damn rng!

http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=87f25c2f91

my agility beat his, i was attacking with melee gear, should have been a simple win, someone wanna tall me how his dodge was so high??

nothing to do with his gear, different type of dodge, that dodge was based on stats, or so the rng would have us believe

people have been saying for years the rng dont work properly, theres as much proof as your ever going to need

03-11-2012 17:25

FlashAOD
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Yeah that sucks and with a rapier you have + chance to hit aswell as having more agility.

What gear?

EDIT ;

Though with a bandanna at P+1 im sure its like -45 chance to hit with melee and the good rapier gives +20.. so that would counter act -5 chance to hit.. which ISNT alot

03-11-2012 17:29

Alexandrua
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Maybe you used a bandanna ?

Edit: only one rapier...p1 band would explain ... Or kilt of sheop since he is 1h gunner...or both

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03-11-2012 17:30

Mikel
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show spy report of your eq, alone link from ambush doesn't say much Wink

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03-11-2012 17:31

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maybe dreamdusk has + luck Wink

etc?

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03-11-2012 18:12

acidic shots
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my overall chance to hit was -5

that = just under 2 agility

i beat him by over 2 agility, so that cant be the reason behind it at all

if he had luck he had a bloody lot of it

ill remember in future to just tank the hell out of rep and go for a searing kill, how can i have any faith in the rng after such madness??

03-11-2012 18:17

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quote:

Originally posted by acidic shots
my overall chance to hit was -5

I'm afraid it's impossible with 114 PERCEPTION. Just post the spy report with the gear you were using in that ambush, we'll prove you wrong Wink

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03-11-2012 20:33

FlashAOD
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quote:

Originally posted by Undivisible

quote:

Originally posted by acidic shots
my overall chance to hit was -5

I'm afraid it's impossible with 114 PERCEPTION. Just post the spy report with the gear you were using in that ambush, we'll prove you wrong Wink

Proved yourself wrong there when hes using melee.. whats perc gota do with it

03-11-2012 20:35

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quote:

Originally posted by FlashAOD

quote:

Originally posted by Undivisible

quote:

Originally posted by acidic shots
my overall chance to hit was -5

I'm afraid it's impossible with 114 PERCEPTION. Just post the spy report with the gear you were using in that ambush, we'll prove you wrong Wink

Proved yourself wrong there when hes using melee.. whats perc gota do with it

Archaic Amulet (+5) CLOSE

Amulet
Effects: APPEARANCE +10, BLOOD PTS -21 %, PERCEPTION +5, LUCK +3, chance to hit with melee weapons -10
Requirements: LEVEL: 59 (60), STRENGTH: 13, APPEARANCE: 20, CHARISMA: 20, REPUTATION: 20
Value: 59 000 Lgo
Value: Nanites 205, Mana 918

This effect is paired with most items that boost perception Wink

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03-11-2012 20:38

FlashAOD
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Hes attacking with melee. his perc is 100% out of the question. he could have 1,000 perc and he would still be in the same chance to hit anything..

03-11-2012 20:41

Undivisible
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Does someone pays you to be this blind? I'm saying that gear with perception boosts decreases chance to hit with melee weapons, and acidic shots clearly uses such gear, so despite the fact, that he has more agility his chance to hit is actually low because of the gear with perception boosts he's using.

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03-11-2012 20:46

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Good Solar Bracelet (+2) CLOSE

Ring
Effects: CHARISMA +10, REPUTATION -2, APPEARANCE +6, PERCEPTION +14, chance to hit with melee weapons -21
Requirements: LEVEL: 41 (62), STRENGTH: 16 (23), APPEARANCE: 47 (70)
Value: 134 450 Lgo
Value: Nanites 389, Mana 1567

Good Hawk`s Signet (+2) CLOSE

Ring (Only for males)
Effects: REPUTATION +14, APPEARANCE +2, PERCEPTION +14, chance to hit with melee weapons -27
Requirements: LEVEL: 46 (69), STRENGTH: 11 (16), APPEARANCE: 45 (6 Cool

Value: 185 250 Lgo
Value: Nanites 394, Mana 1829

Shorts of the Shepherd (+3) CLOSE

Pants
Defence: -3
Effects: AGILITY +5, PERCEPTION +11, TOUGHNESS -5, item defence -7, chance to hit with melee weapons -19
Requirements: LEVEL: 9 (13), STRENGTH: 14 (20)
Value: 19 500 Lgo
Value: Nanites 52, Mana 109

to get 114 perc you must be using some sort of perception gear and it ALL gives a -to hit to mellee weapons.

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03-11-2012 20:48

Ba_al
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edited: due to being a noob

thank you mikel for pointing out how noobish i am -.-

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03-11-2012 22:32

Pops
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they have.

most items that give perc also have a big negative chance to hit with melee weapons.

so with the difference in agility and 114 perception, the items giving you your perception are giving a massive negative to chance to hit with melee, thats why in that gear you couldnt hit the broad side of a barn.

all you have to do is read the item description and you will see how much of a negative

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03-11-2012 22:49

acidic shots
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i had - chance to hit from gear and + chance to hit from other gear, the overall was -5

then with my race luck factored into it i was pretty much breaking even

theres no way he should have been such a ninja in that attack

EDIT:
Good Hawk`s Signet of Misdemeanour (+5) CLOSE

Ring (Only for males)
Effects: REPUTATION +27, APPEARANCE +1, PERCEPTION +18, chance to hit with melee weapons -31
Requirements: LEVEL: 82 (104), STRENGTH: 20 (25), APPEARANCE: 83 (106)
Value: 223 800 Lgo
Value: Nanites 757, Mana 3046

i had that on and i wasnt supposed to have, thats where the extra - chance to hit came from and why i couldnt hit the damn guy, epic rage fail

the RNG is still broke, just not as bad as i thought

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03-11-2012 22:53

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114 - 13(police station) - 18(that ring) = 83

It's still too high to be a trained stat, there had to be something else in your setup that boosted your perception and lowered your chance to hit.

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03-11-2012 23:14

Paranoia
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quote:

Originally posted by Undivisible
114 - 13(police station) - 18(that ring) = 83

It's still too high to be a trained stat, there had to be something else in your setup that boosted your perception and lowered your chance to hit.

his kilt of shepherd but thats already accounted for Wink

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03-11-2012 23:49

Undivisible
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Perfect Kilt of the Shepherd (+1) CLOSE

Pants (Only for males)
Defence: 15
Effects: APPEARANCE +19, AGILITY -2, LUCK +4, damage of all weapons +1 for every 4 levels, item defence increased by 1 for every 4 levels, PERCEPTION +28, TOUGHNESS -5, item defence -21, chance to hit with melee weapons -35
Requirements: LEVEL: 77 (79), STRENGTH: 63 (64), AGILITY: 45 (46), TOUGHNESS: 54 (55)
Value: 76 200 Lgo
Value: Nanites 841, Mana 2240

That kilt?

Ok, so in total penalty to hit was:
for rapier: - 46 (that's like - 15 1/3 agility)
for knife: - 57 (that's like - 19 agility)
the report is deleted already, but I'm pretty sure it's alright now.

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03-11-2012 23:56

darc
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After 10 attempts to upgrade my kilt to perfect at 50% I can say that ether the chaple doesn't work since in beta it wasn't tested properly due to well of souls been taken out or the rng isn't working as it should I should have got it to perfect once in ten attempts

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03-17-2012 20:40

Paranoia
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quote:

Originally posted by darc
After 10 attempts to upgrade my kilt to perfect at 50% I can say that ether th challenge doesn't work since in beta it wasn't tested properly due to well if souls been taken out or not he rng isn't working as it should I should have got it to perfect once in ten attempts

flip a coin.. does the previous attempts to flip it change the chance to get a different result?

NO.

its at 50% wether you like it or not.

my current record in real life is to get 16 tails in a row ~ (A level stats class)

just because it fails 30 times does not mean the chance to upgrade it is increased.

It could fail 45836473537 times and the chance for it to upgrade would still be 50%.

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03-17-2012 21:02

darc
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I never said it should increase my chance I said should have passed at least once since the odds of me failing should be low now

03-17-2012 21:07

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