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grind
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auction push and transparency |
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looks like somebody likes to pay 16 ls for a cruel mace, it is not the first time we can see weird transactions, or this one, reported
Serrated Thunderfist of Courage (+4) 1 10 / 3 / 19 / 0 / 0 2011-12-28
09:29:53
Now many auctions have been reported up to now, but we don't know if auction is canceled, or nothing happens...
What I would like, for instance, is to be able to see on the auction page, for auctions that are reported, who bid on item, who is the seller and who the buyer, a kind of transaction history visible to all players so that if admins sleep and those guys are not banned at least we can keep an eye on what is happening ..and at least overfarm them, of course!
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12-29-2011 15:17 |
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grind
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RE: auction push and transparency |
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sure, but I would like to know who are the people involved.
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12-29-2011 15:39 |
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makavelli
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RE: auction push and transparency |
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u will when then get a ban for pushing
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12-29-2011 17:53 |
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kraftie
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Bullet-proof Shorts of the Strongman (+5) 1 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 2 2011-12-29
15:39:08
Bullet-proof Shorts of the Strongman (+3) 1 0 / 0 / 16 / 0 / 0 2011-12-28
14:36:42
Bullet-proof Shorts of the Strongman (+3) 8 0 / 1 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-11-27
23:24:25
Bullet-proof Shorts of the Strongman (+3) 18 7 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-09-11
00:43:01
Bullet-proof Kilt of the Strongman (+3) 1 0 / 0 / 0 / 3 / 0 2011-04-07
19:39:32
Bullet-proof Skirt of the Strongman (+3) 7 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 / 0 2011-01-30
20:05:47
I bought the last pair because I really needed them to merge Elvish of Dodges (Went through a **** it I'll pay your stupid price moment.) but I thought it was fishy that all year the shorts went for a 1MS then this one comes up 16LS higher stones blocked.
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12-29-2011 22:45 |
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Foxy
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Originally posted by kraftie
Bullet-proof Shorts of the Strongman (+5) 1 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 2 2011-12-29
15:39:08
Bullet-proof Shorts of the Strongman (+3) 1 0 / 0 / 16 / 0 / 0 2011-12-28
14:36:42
Bullet-proof Shorts of the Strongman (+3) 8 0 / 1 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-11-27
23:24:25
Bullet-proof Shorts of the Strongman (+3) 18 7 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 2011-09-11
00:43:01
Bullet-proof Kilt of the Strongman (+3) 1 0 / 0 / 0 / 3 / 0 2011-04-07
19:39:32
Bullet-proof Skirt of the Strongman (+3) 7 0 / 0 / 1 / 0 / 0 2011-01-30
20:05:47
I bought the last pair because I really needed them to merge Elvish of Dodges (Went through a **** it I'll pay your stupid price moment.) but I thought it was fishy that all year the shorts went for a 1MS then this one comes up 16LS higher stones blocked. |
Thats called someone seeing your thread and trying to get lucky
And all I want is to have it clearly showing the item that was cancelled by sjez just so we know
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12-29-2011 23:12 |
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pixowy
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i think that thread should be moved to other forum (or just start new, coz dont think this forum suits it), that problem is huge and there is no action taken since long time, hire new game op's if current cant handle this, coz its a joke
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12-30-2011 22:05 |
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kraftie
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Good Friendly Club of Agility 1 101 / 10 / 4 / 2 / 0 2012-01-01
10:55:15
Push much *Cough cough*
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12-31-2011 18:40 |
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FlashAOD
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Mystic Club (+5) 1 0 / 0 / 16 / 0 / 0
lol speak o the devil of pushin
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12-31-2011 18:44 |
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Paranoia
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12-31-2011 19:14 |
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Mortis
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Knife of the Conqueror (+3) 1 0 / 0 / 16 / 0 / 0 2011-12-26 10:32:24 The auction has been reported
Friendly Club (+3) 1 8 / 0 / 16 / 0 / 0 2011-12-25 06:18:36 The auction has been reported |
And there is more of such auctions.. will pass it to Szeszej as this is ridiculous.
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12-31-2011 19:25 |
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grind
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well, it can happen stuff goes a bit too high and if admins are not enough vigilant, times go and auction is not canceled. I am always in need of stones so I try to be quite active on the market and normally I try to make as much stones as possible when I sell something. I report my auctions when I judge I got too many stones by time even if I want to spend the damn stones SOON!! But what if I am in vacation, or I don't have the time to check for example? Or if the 3 days go out and nobody do anything because it is week end and people are busy?
The price can be ridiculous high but you can have market fluctuations, you may want an item immediately so you pay it 5 times its value but some auctions, there can be a bid war.. a reported auction does not mean automatically a ban, since people could have good reasons to pay an item more than it is worth. You could even misclick!
Normally with some tracking of people involved admins can see and judge if things are ok or not. But this way we can give it a look too if we see that it happens to often to the same people. At least I won't take the risk to lend him my square lol
Many times it is evident that somebody is cheating, sometimes not. I think many players would like to have more transparency on this subject, so if it is hard to change the code so to show who is involved on the auctions that could be done at least with a thread in forum, that wouldn't take too much time since not many items are reported
like this
Good Runic Cape of the Strongman 2 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 22 2010-08-29
04:50:39
seller Grindgore buyer: I love you
ps: since this was never canceled, thank you soo much, that was a load of stones in 2010! Oh well.. I mean only for new items!! ^^
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01-02-2012 01:53 |
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Mortis
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The reports are going to Szeszej and he is the only one who can cancel it except the owners of course. Will talk to him.
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01-07-2012 12:40 |
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Trigerog
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Vengeful Ring (+5) 14 0 / 0 / 0 / 7 / 13 2011-12-10
11:22:16
Reported too
I´ve won that item. And it wasn´t push as i really needed that item for my solar set. Obviously there was one more person really needed it so price jumped that high.
And why i payed that much? I lost in about 8 auctions so i wanted to have it done that s all.
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Trigerog
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Indeed
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ilovelhx
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Perfect Hardened Helmet 1 112 / 22 / 6 / 10 / 6 2011-05-22
12:21:53 The auction has been reported
this seems legit...
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01-18-2012 10:52 |
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Pops
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25 bids looks like a bidding war to me.
definitely needs a closer look
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demonfury v2
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Originally posted by Firetrap
Chain of Concentration (+3) 25 0 / 0 / 3 / 3 / 3 2012-01-23
17:38:41 Auction reset
Chain of Concentration (+5) 2 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 4 2011-05-28
16:10:20Not reported, not reset
Chain of Concentration (+5) 1 0 / 5 / 0 / 1 / 3 2011-01-06
06:38:17Not reported, not reset
Chain of Concentration (+5) 1 0 / 0 / 4 / 2 / 3 2010-03-30
03:14:53 Not reported, not reset
Good Chain of Concentration 1 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 3 2010-02-10
07:19:57 Not reported, not reset
Does anyone here think this auction should of been reset? |
normal value is around 1000 stones ish, 25 bids is a clear war, 3ss is a perfectly legit bid imo
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01-25-2012 00:28 |
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NouveauNosferatu
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Perhaps the devil's in the detail.
The price seems fine, but the nature of the bidding could have been suspect, ie. same IP address.
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01-25-2012 11:01 |
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Sapling
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Originally posted by Firetrap
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Originally posted by NouveauNosferatu
Perhaps the devil's in the detail.
The price seems fine, but the nature of the bidding could have been suspect, ie. same IP address. |
Wouldn't the reason of stated that? I seen the reset report and it just said overpriced |
And this is why we need more transparency in the reports on push/pull etc in the auctions, and more details on why an auction gets cancelled.
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01-25-2012 13:15 |
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Szeszej
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This has been explained in the complaints. Again sorry for the confusion.
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Tampax
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Chain of Accuracy (+5) 8 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 1 2012-03-12
03:31:27
are you serious? i last saw it at 1hs at 01:30 that was with 2 bids on it already, so... from hs to ss in 6 bids...
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TheKid
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i was in a bidding war last night with that untill al capone bidded the SS he bidded that to make sure he got the win as i would'nt pay that much for it so its not a push or w.e
and it was @ 2h 2bs at the 7th bid then he jumped to the SS to ensure the win
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Swiftenza
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an ss for that i think is fine....
i'd pay that if i felt desperate enough and may do soon
sick of getting outbid :L
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03-12-2012 15:31 |
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stefan
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im going to refresh this topic to make admins work easier, so:
Your bid on item Astral Ring (+3) of
1 x Bloodstone stones (1 total)
has been outbid by offer
34 x Bloodstone, 7 x Heartstone, 2 x Lifestone, 1 x Mergestone (354 total)!
its obvious push, item isnt worth more then ls
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AyAgi
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Good Copper Signet of Authority (+1) |
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does any1 know the reason to pay 21 bs for
Good Copper Signet of Authority (+1)
there r obviously someone copying since there has been loads on but i wanted one and bid 20 stones and was outbid before i could blink
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12-09-2012 21:46 |
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LucifersAngel
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