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Szeszej
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Login steve_nortje
Posta Flashblade
ID 22075
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Posta costa
Pushing stones worth a permanent ban
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02-03-2009 17:31 |
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Cthulhu
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At the risk of a warning - how can Flash have pushed this auction - he has been on holiday since Sunday???
As deputy of the clan he is in, I felt it necessary to protest on his behalf.
Szeszej can you justify this ban please?
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02-03-2009 18:38 |
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Mortis
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RE: Flashblade; V13_eVe_BrO_Of_STe_e; costa |
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Originally posted by Szeszej
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And how can you judge the value if you dont play the game? Past auctions are not the best indicator of real value of something and moreover tha value of item is created by us, by those who are paying the stones for them. The cost always reflects the desire. If there is no desire the price is low, if there is high desire the price is high and because many high level players have many stones you must expect that they can go quite high if they see item they want.
Also with 1/2h guns this is quite specific market as they dont have any prefix or suffix, so that means once you buy it the item is complete and ready to use. It's the same if I put on auction Legendary Light Dagger of Suicide. How high you think it would go? Let's say 5SS at least. Then imagina I put there Legendary Cruel Dagger of Suicide. Then imagine Legendary Murderous Dagger of Suicide. You would see rocket high prices on such item. 10SS if not more.
Conclusion. You will see really high prices on 1/2h Legendary guns as there is no prefix or suffix and their number is limited. Just check prices of Legendary Hunting or Sniper rifles. And wait for Legendary Shotgun.
One last thing. Why you always choose permanent ban when there is possibility for lower punishment? Punishment list
If you have nothing more than the value for your judgement then you have nothing real as proof in this case.
Oh and feel free to warn me for spam.
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02-03-2009 18:51 |
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Helldemon
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Yeah, but the whole pont of an auction is to bid what you can to win, whoever did it might have known they would miss the end of the auction so spent the stones that they were willing to pay and considering for the 1h gunner set up it's the best weapon to my knowledge on the game so i think it can be justified
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02-03-2009 19:38 |
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diablo
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02-03-2009 19:57 |
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horsthorstmann
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about those two bans:
i neither do believe the two of them did such a stupid thing. would be a bit strange if two good players got stupid at the exact same moment. i talked to flash before that auction ended. i told him to report his one himself, but he has gone on vacation before it ended, so he couldn´t report his one. guess you can check it. of course the price for both is too high, but you should punish the people/one who bid on it, as someone for sure did a bad joke on eve and flash there.
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02-03-2009 20:46 |
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Szeszej
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I've given you plenty of time to report the auctions yourself as they were highly overpriced in my opinion.
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02-03-2009 21:35 |
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RE: Flashblade; V13_eVe_BrO_Of_STe_e; costa |
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At the risk of a warning, I have to request that an investigation into these two transactions is made immediately.
For two well respected, highly experienced players to risk everything for the sake of 5+soulstones is very hard to believe.
And as for Mortis`s comments with respect to the prices of Legendary guns, I have to agree 100%. Since the inroduction of such weapons, so many people have changed tattoos to either gunman or gangster, that the demand for them is getting more and more desperate. Eventually, 5soulstones for Legendays Good Uzi`s will be nothing.
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02-03-2009 21:38 |
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eve_
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and how am i supposed to know your opinion before you ban.....
..about how much it was oversized...FOR YOU...
it's really easy from you to just say it's my fault...
the worst, is that i really feel like i ve done NOTHING wrong and u just take it easy... Like some other players i spent a lot of time in this game and spent money... you just make me puke...
BYE AND GOOD GAME and stay in peace with your tranquility....
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02-03-2009 21:41 |
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tatiana
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warn me. i don't care, but how do you know the price is too high?
do you ever play on the english server?
if people want an item so badly they might go all in....
i would have do it anyway and i doubt people will think of report it just because THEY might BE BAN.
hey i used to play on the french server.. it was totally different and still never saw somethin like this..
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02-03-2009 21:41 |
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Helldemon
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Their's been plenty of posts with people saying that would'nt report their own auction in regards with no contact being made with the other player as it's a winfall and the decision of the buyer. Plus to permantly ban someone who's paid to play and made such an effort to build their character is a travesty in my opinion and i won't be spending anymore on this game if not sorted
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02-03-2009 21:42 |
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Kalessin
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This is outrageous. There is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of these extremely experienced, active and highly respected players except a high bid - for a pretty bloody good item in my opinion. We're not talking about a club of agility here.
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02-03-2009 21:47 |
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diablo
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Originally posted by Szeszej
I've given you plenty of time to report the auctions yourself as they were highly overpriced in my opinion. |
Thanks for your deep investigation, that helped a lot. Are you trying to help or to justify your actions?
I might sound harsh, but I have plenty of reasons to be. The main is the lack of communication from your side.
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02-03-2009 21:51 |
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Death_Reborn
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This is a joke, surely?
Even if you think pushing is involved here, if someone wants to pay a high price for an item, where is the crime?
I would be willing to pay 5 SS for a legendary Good Uzi if I had the stones as I need this type of weapon to make any sort of impact on the monsters!
See sense please otherwise you won't have anyone paying to play this game as it's becoming a farce
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02-03-2009 22:08 |
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Apollo
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Originally posted by Szeszej
I've given you plenty of time to report the auctions yourself as they were highly overpriced in my opinion. |
You don't even play the game how are you supposed to know what is highly priced and hey who gives one if you warn me I haven't had one on this account yet
if you did play it Szejeedhedwjx whatever ur name is then you would know that some items are key to different people everyone can put a different price on an item hey why don't you write us a list or a thread and evaluate every item on the game so we are all aware what is TOO HIGH in your opinion
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02-03-2009 22:12 |
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This is not the thread for this. Any posts that are not from the those involved will be treated as spam and will incur a warning
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02-03-2009 22:42 |
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diablo
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Feel free to warn me but if you want people to carry on in another threat then give the link.
-> Weird Ban and so ..
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02-03-2009 22:54 |
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Kleks
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Feeling warning but i'll stand for eve on this one.
Rare items even if they were sold by others the price used to vary
if someone pays 3 ss for legendary uzi +5 price will automaticly rise by more or less half when item is at good and above depending on type and quality of item/
Legendary Glock (+3) 1 1 / 2 / 0 / 0 / 0
Legendary Good Glock 1 0 / 2 / 1 / 0 / 0
So why in case of eve when someone pays
Legendary Uzi (+5) 4 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 3
auction is not reported but if eve puts leg uzi at good +1 and someone pays over 5 ss you consider this as pushing??
It's normal from my point of veiw szeszej.
Items at higher quality than normal +5 are more valuable and sometimes their value exceed 2x of value at normal +5
True that the second uzi at normal +5 it seems a bit to much but like with my legendary fn-fal, i'm more than sure that if i would rise it to good or good +1 i could get 5ss for it.
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02-03-2009 22:59 |
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Kleks
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Actually that bracelet of blood hasn't been sold as auction was sorted out and stones was removed but i don't know why it's on underworld hall of fame...
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02-03-2009 23:32 |
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Scyanide
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confusing case ... there are always problems with bans and there is always a lot controversy with it ...
the last two uzis are highly overbidded ... and i think seller should inform operator about it ...
because for a very long time there was no bans or nothing like this people ( players ) stopped looking for rules and regulations ... i am not saying if its right or not ... i know that very good players are banned so i think this should be explained ...
maybe a permanent ban is too big punishment ...
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* Two-handed Gun: [3475] (Legendary Sniper rifle (+3) |
a legendary sniperrifle selling for almost 7 soulstones and yet did the users get banned ? NO did they hell... you know why? because you saw this as an acceptable price.
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http://r1.bloodwars.net/showmsg.php?mid=...&key=bb6675c406
you think its much ?
i dont think so ... i was ready to pay 13ss for this rifle ... and if there will be next one on auction i will be fighting for it ... it is very rare item and from sniper point of view priceless ... and on polish realm these are going for 18ss or more ...
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02-03-2009 23:42 |
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nemoralis
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There is a thread already for complaints about the bans. Posts are not to be made in pillory without being related to the ban.
Thread closed.
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02-03-2009 23:48 |
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Szeszej
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I'm sorry if you feel like the bans here are thoughtless only because you don't see all the information yourselves but still I can't give you the access to my control panel.
If sellers agree to cancel the auction it will be cancelled and the ban will be shortened to 20 days.
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02-04-2009 13:33 |
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Szeszej
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Next time please use "Report auction" button and everything should be all right. I certainly do not enjoy banning people
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02-05-2009 01:56 |
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02-05-2009 04:25 |
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FlashBlade
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RE: Flashblade; V13_eVe_BrO_Of_STe_e; costa |
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I'm currently on vac, and will be returning on Mon 16th Feb. I hope this mess will be sorted out by the powers that be on my return.
Fact: I found a Legendary Uzi on a quest and put it up for auction.
Fact: It sold for lots of stones.
Fact: I have no idea who bid on it.
Fact: I will delete my account on my return if this smear on my name is not cleared up.
Apologies to my good friends and clanmates in Source for any hassle this has caused.
Many thanks,
FlashBlade
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02-07-2009 18:14 |
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